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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:36 PM
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38. Hahahahahaha!!!
Don't mean to laugh, but that reminds me of those "International ANSWER" jokefests in DC. Every asshole with a gripe in the world shows up and demands to babble on self-importantlly on stage, but the reason that the masses were there wasn't to Free this Guy Who Was Wrongly Imprisoned, or Fight The Power on (Fill in Fringe Issue Most People Never Heard of), it was to protest the war.

As a consequence, the purpose of the protest, for those who were there to protest the war, was neatly diluted and bordered on meaningless.

There was no strong FOCUS at those things, and they just didn't transmit any urgency or fierce determination to the nation at large. I'll probably get called names for pointing this out, but oh well!

I haven't seen any of Derby's other posts on this issue, but as a stand-alone matter, hijab probably will become optional (once again) in post-clerical Iran (when that day comes). During the peaceful, pre-violence protests earlier in this process, many of the younger women were eschewing the scarf, or wearing it in "non-Islamic" fashion, as a a way to communicate their protest, ensuring they were surrounded by male fellow students who would watch their backs for them.

This woman would be beaten if walking the street, in hijab like this, alone:

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  -Guys, it's simple. I support a bonfire of women's headscarves in Tehran, but... derby378  Jun-21-09 02:50 PM   #0 
  - Agreed! (n/t)  spin   Jun-21-09 02:51 PM   #1 
  - As in the other thread with the same theme,  MineralMan   Jun-21-09 02:54 PM   #2 
  - amen  benddem   Jun-21-09 02:57 PM   #6 
  - Well, not being a Texan, I'm going to say that all Texas Progressives  MineralMan   Jun-21-09 03:01 PM   #8 
  - This isn't about culture, it's about unjust theocratic law  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:06 PM   #12 
     - No.. it is a post from an American (male or otherwise) who knows NOT  hlthe2b   Jun-21-09 03:17 PM   #15 
        - I suggest you read the OP again  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:31 PM   #20 
           - You are saying she does NOT have the freedom to do so NOW  hlthe2b   Jun-21-09 03:36 PM   #22 
              - Exactly - she does not.  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:48 PM   #24 
              - EXCUSE ME! Are you INTENTIONALLY misreading?  hlthe2b   Jun-21-09 04:15 PM   #31 
              - Women will be beaten in the streets by the morality police if they uncover now.  MADem   Jun-21-09 04:09 PM   #29 
                 - MADem. you may be coming in late to this discussion., I think...  hlthe2b   Jun-21-09 04:19 PM   #33 
                    - That's not what I am reading in his OP, though;  MADem   Jun-21-09 04:38 PM   #40 
                       - Most here appear to be reading the OP as I am  hlthe2b   Jun-21-09 07:32 PM   #48 
                          - I haven't been keeping up. If this is a continuation of an old fight, I was not  MADem   Jun-21-09 10:28 PM   #49 
  - If I were to knock on your front door...  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:01 PM   #9 
  - Then I suggest that you purchase an airline ticket to  MineralMan   Jun-21-09 03:05 PM   #11 
     - You still don't get it  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:16 PM   #14 
        - How is your telling Iranian women that they MUST throw  MineralMan   Jun-21-09 03:20 PM   #16 
           - Read the OP again before you go any further  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:35 PM   #21 
           - Uh....that is NOT what the OP says. The little "but" in there ... read everything AFTER that.  MADem   Jun-21-09 04:12 PM   #30 
  - I'd say people who went through a violent revolution in their past have at least some room to talk  Baikonour   Jun-21-09 05:41 PM   #47 
  - Agreed. I don't show my cleavage  sandnsea   Jun-21-09 02:54 PM   #3 
  - I love how the women are collecting stones for the men,and when  Swede   Jun-21-09 02:55 PM   #4 
  - Women, by all accounts, are spearheading most rights/reform movements inside Iran.  EFerrari   Jun-21-09 03:03 PM   #10 
  - It is THEIR right to determine how best to protest..  hlthe2b   Jun-21-09 02:56 PM   #5 
  - This is the second thread this afternoon to propose that  MineralMan   Jun-21-09 02:58 PM   #7 
  - Do not agree with OP. This is their culture (combined with religious culture). It takes a long to  peacetalksforall   Jun-21-09 03:15 PM   #13 
  - The ruling elite has already imposed their so-called culture on Iranian women  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:26 PM   #19 
  - Sorry, but I think this is a stupid idea.  Buck Laser   Jun-21-09 03:21 PM   #17 
  - Taking off headscarves will not CAUSE change. If change happens, it may result in women having the  lindisfarne   Jun-21-09 03:24 PM   #18 
  - Light 'er up  libodem   Jun-21-09 03:38 PM   #23 
  - Tell ya a little story Derby  canetoad   Jun-21-09 03:48 PM   #25 
  - My wife was in Sydney during the stevedore strike  derby378   Jun-21-09 03:54 PM   #26 
  - The current revolution needs to succeed first  canetoad   Jun-21-09 04:02 PM   #27 
  - Hahahahahaha!!!  MADem   Jun-21-09 04:36 PM   #38 
     - No name calling here  canetoad   Jun-21-09 05:27 PM   #43 
  - That was one thing that Shah did "right," more or less.  MADem   Jun-21-09 04:06 PM   #28 
  - A person's soul and character are more important than her attire. Those who risk their lives  Psychic Consortium   Jun-21-09 04:17 PM   #32 
  - I knew this would happen  Party Person   Jun-21-09 04:23 PM   #34 
  - Democracy and feminism does not always look like Paris Hilton  mamaleah   Jun-21-09 04:25 PM   #35 
  - Exactly - I agree with you 100%  derby378   Jun-21-09 04:30 PM   #37 
     - But you seem to want them all off now and back on after  mamaleah   Jun-21-09 04:37 PM   #39 
        - The bonfire I talked about in the OP was for those who renounced the hijab  derby378   Jun-21-09 04:48 PM   #42 
        - not wearing hats or scarves = "freedom", don't you know that?  Hannah Bell   Jun-21-09 05:32 PM   #44 
           - A little late, aren't you?  derby378   Jun-21-09 05:36 PM   #45 
              - late for what? the op was written today. i'm not talking to iranians,but DU-ers.  Hannah Bell   Jun-21-09 05:40 PM   #46 
  - Is Iran a US colony  malaise   Jun-21-09 04:28 PM   #36 
     - Good question.  Karenina   Jun-21-09 04:40 PM   #41 

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