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287. ..........vehement, vociferous, and often irrational ?
What? Because I believe in the military's Equal Opportunity policy?

You know that's not just for the "ethnic" people and the "girls" don't you? It's even for the "boys" -- good old, from the hood, and Boston Irish, and everything in-between.

You make an assumption about my gender (and you base your argument on it--the "You wouldn't UNDERSTAAAAAND" routine), but you don't know what it is, and I don't tell anyone. Why? Because of bullshit just like this.

You're the one with the preconceived notions here.

That guy did NOTHING wrong. Watch the full tape, you'll see.
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  -As a woman, I am very proud of Senator Boxer marylanddem  Jun-19-09 09:43 AM   #0 
  - context please  aikoaiko   Jun-19-09 09:47 AM   #1 
  - Did you watch Professor Anita Hill testify to the Senate Committee about Clarence Thomas?  Hekate   Jun-19-09 09:55 AM   #9 
  - Excellent point! I"m glad there are those here who have this thing figured out for what it is.  CTyankee   Jun-19-09 10:09 AM   #14 
  - Sexism has alwasy been a staple here on DU. We're told to "deal with it"  bobbolink   Jun-19-09 05:22 PM   #90 
     - It's kind of everywhere, but surprising here at DU. I truly don't think some people here  CTyankee   Jun-19-09 05:24 PM   #91 
        - Yes, "progressives" are "used to it". How fucked up is that?  bobbolink   Jun-19-09 05:31 PM   #92 
           - "How fucked up is that?"  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 07:59 PM   #97 
  - Bingo. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 02:36 AM   #147 
  - Silliness.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-20-09 04:16 PM   #213 
  - If she's called before a public hearing it certainly is. As for Anita Hill, a lot was conveyed...  Hekate   Jun-20-09 08:06 PM   #300 
     - I thought you said they talked respectfully during the hearing.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-20-09 11:33 PM   #336 
        - Ah, no. That was what caused the outrage that I and millions of other women felt.  Hekate   Jun-21-09 01:29 AM   #362 
  - OMG yes, I remember those hearings  xxqqqzme   Jun-22-09 02:13 AM   #473 
  - Here you go, a video of her simple and rather appropriate request  merh   Jun-19-09 10:48 AM   #31 
  - I agree, simple and appropriate, but I don't think the gen was being condescending either.  aikoaiko   Jun-19-09 01:01 PM   #72 
  - She didn't say he was - she asked him to refer to her as Senator  merh   Jun-19-09 01:16 PM   #74 
  - Well, the OP sees this as some sort of victory for women  aikoaiko   Jun-19-09 01:20 PM   #76 
  - She handled it perfectly. Noone was condescended to. There was no victory, it's called COMMUNICATION  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:10 PM   #101 
     - I agree.  aikoaiko   Jun-19-09 08:26 PM   #103 
        - Cool.  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:29 PM   #104 
  - strictly speaking "Senator" is not a title at all  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 03:33 PM   #193 
  - Uh...  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:41 PM   #232 
     - They are both jobs  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 06:21 PM   #271 
  - Odd. Bush was made fun of because he insisted on being called  Obamanaut   Jun-21-09 06:32 PM   #441 
  - That's military parlance, no?  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 01:52 AM   #135 
     - It's sexist. Male senators are simply referred to as "senator."  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 04:14 AM   #157 
     - Isn't it military protocol to refer to female officers as "Sir"?  marshall   Jun-20-09 09:19 AM   #168 
     - No - women officers are addresses as "Ma'am"  hack89   Jun-20-09 04:35 PM   #222 
        - That's the problem. She is not in the military. She is in the Senate.  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 11:06 PM   #331 
        - So he might have nervously called an African American "boy" and that would be okay?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-20-09 11:34 PM   #337 
           - No, it's no more OK than calling a senator, "Ma'am." And if it happened,  JDPriestly   Jun-21-09 12:15 AM   #343 
              - I hear it about 60 times a day, I probably use it at least 20 times a day.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 12:33 AM   #349 
              - Perhaps if you were female, with experience, you would know that it can also be used  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 10:33 AM   #390 
                 - Any title can be used condescendingly, all you have to do is roll your eyes.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 02:56 PM   #416 
                    - I have many times  polmaven   Jun-21-09 03:50 PM   #419 
                    - Wikipedia has a different take.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 04:22 PM   #422 
                       - FWIW. That would have been a perfect opportunity  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 05:32 PM   #432 
                       - Yes, do my best to comply. Isn't that better than ignoring the request.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 05:41 PM   #434 
                       - Every little bit helps  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 05:45 PM   #436 
                       - I'll ask you again did the General refuse the Senator's request?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 05:43 PM   #435 
                       - Oh, well!!!!  polmaven   Jun-21-09 06:05 PM   #440 
                          - I'm not going to stop using the counterpart of sir because a few people find it offensive.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 09:22 PM   #442 
                          - You are simply more aware that they may not appreciate you calling them that and may not tell you  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:38 PM   #445 
                          - Wiki trumps women in the pecking order -- not quite as high an authority as God...  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:36 PM   #444 
                             - That's a strange belief you have there.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 09:49 PM   #447 
                                - That's what YOU said!  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:50 PM   #448 
                                - And you have a quote of me saying that right? I thought not. No need to apologize, it's okay.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 09:53 PM   #449 
                                - It's okay  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 10:19 PM   #452 
                                - Cya.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 10:32 PM   #454 
                                - I'll ask you again did the General refuse the Senator's request?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 09:56 PM   #450 
                    - If that was your attempt to look at it from a female point of view, thank you.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 05:18 PM   #430 
                       - You're welcome, ma'am.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-21-09 05:25 PM   #431 
              - Oh, please.  Abq_Sarah   Jun-21-09 01:31 AM   #364 
              - "Ma'am" reflects the same condescension pretending to be protective but actually putting women down"  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 10:36 AM   #391 
                 - But, both were terms that separated. Gender discrimination has a  JDPriestly   Jun-21-09 01:44 PM   #414 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-22-09 08:49 AM   #478 
        - He was insulting to her and she put him in his place.  Xenotime   Jun-21-09 10:27 AM   #389 
     - Thank you very much ..........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 11:07 AM   #177 
     - We did do a good job of it. I have two daughters who prove it.  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 11:15 PM   #335 
     - +1 Excellent post  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 02:45 PM   #185 
     - "fucking bag of organs"  Pool Hall Ace   Jun-20-09 07:23 PM   #277 
        - That's why I get the big bucks........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:32 PM   #282 
           - Was the General upset about the Senator's request?  Pool Hall Ace   Jun-20-09 08:49 PM   #309 
              - Naw, he just assented, and went on .....  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 08:52 PM   #310 
  - Dead link. n/t  Greyhound   Jun-20-09 04:23 AM   #160 
  - "Video no longer available"  question everything   Jun-20-09 03:38 PM   #195 
     - It is disrespect when the recipient  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 06:04 PM   #267 
  - except that her title is Senator and all Senators both male and female are addressed as such  cap   Jun-22-09 09:18 AM   #479 
     - you know... at the end of the day, a Senator outranks a General  cap   Jun-22-09 04:03 PM   #482 
        - So it was a power play to put the upstart in his place. nt  Obamanaut   Jun-23-09 04:43 PM   #502 
  - Me too!!  grandpappy   Jun-19-09 09:49 AM   #2 
  - Uppity women. It's even going on here on this board.  CTyankee   Jun-19-09 09:49 AM   #3 
  - That's because "they" are correct, and you are wrong. NT  MADem   Jun-19-09 09:51 AM   #6 
  - Ever watch the courtroom scene from A Few Good Men? The judge  Ilsa   Jun-19-09 11:46 AM   #51 
  - Some men don't get it,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 01:56 AM   #136 
     - Good points. They may also not understand how intimidated they are to do it!!  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:00 PM   #186 
  - You shouldn't be. She made an ass of herself.  MADem   Jun-19-09 09:50 AM   #4 
  - Was he calling the males Sir or Senator?  xultar   Jun-19-09 09:53 AM   #8 
  - I don't know.  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:25 AM   #21 
  - There was no "pissed" to it.  merh   Jun-19-09 10:50 AM   #33 
     - I heard what I heard--she was putting the guy down, putting him in his place,  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:03 AM   #41 
     - LOL - that military man should have known better  merh   Jun-19-09 11:24 AM   #45 
     - This isn't an "uppity woman" thing, so stop shopping that tired meme.  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:44 AM   #49 
     - And it was within her right to ask him to address her as Senator  merh   Jun-19-09 11:52 AM   #53 
     - Hey, who do I believe--you or my own lying eyes?  MADem   Jun-19-09 12:01 PM   #59 
        - If you think she "won" then you were not paying attention  merh   Jun-19-09 12:08 PM   #61 
        - See for yourself. She jumped in and STEPPED on his answer, to make her point.  MADem   Jun-19-09 12:35 PM   #67 
           - Was she the Chair of the committee?  merh   Jun-19-09 12:45 PM   #69 
           - She was "Madame Chairwoman." That said, "Sir or Ma'am" are supposed to be ALWAYS OK.  MADem   Jun-19-09 12:58 PM   #71 
              - She had the right make the request, handled it graciously, nuff said.  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:38 PM   #108 
                 - No, not "nuff" said. She did have the right to make the request, yes.  MADem   Jun-20-09 01:37 AM   #131 
                    - "have the right to say she was a complete and total boorish asshole to the guy. Which she was."  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:19 AM   #344 
                       - Yes, it most certainly was vile, her attitude. And unnecessary, too. NT  MADem   Jun-21-09 09:21 AM   #380 
           - She interjected when he paused. That's what happens in politics.  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:37 PM   #107 
              - No she did not. She stepped on his answer and he, courteously, stopped speaking.  MADem   Jun-20-09 01:43 AM   #133 
                 - You asked why someone was making this discussion personal. That's exactly what you are doing.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:17 PM   #187 
                    - It's not about me. It's about Boxer asking the guy a question, and  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:59 PM   #297 
                       - She was very gracious. Anyone who is upset needs to grasp the same reality check as the general did,  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:20 AM   #345 
                          - No, she was not. And your obsessive repitition isn't going to change that. NT  MADem   Jun-21-09 09:19 AM   #379 
                             - Your obsessive repetition and ill logic don't make it so. You're wrong.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 10:24 AM   #388 
                                - Oh boy, now the "copycatting!" Such fun....nt  MADem   Jun-21-09 10:49 AM   #394 
        - His use of "Ma'am" was a device to put her in her place. She was right  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 04:24 AM   #161 
        - You obviously did not watch the testimony, otherwise you wouldn't shop that Big Lie.  MADem   Jun-20-09 04:38 AM   #163 
           - You are exhibiting the macho tendency to totally disregard and disrespect another POV  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:27 PM   #189 
           - >>>>>>>  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:11 PM   #276 
              - Nope,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:48 PM   #291 
                 - Watch the hearing. NT  MADem   Jun-20-09 08:15 PM   #304 
                 - So sick of the BS, don't even want to read the post and there FINALLY is the link  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:23 AM   #346 
                    - I've posted the link in several places throughout this thread.  MADem   Jun-21-09 10:50 AM   #395 
                       - I asked you for it directly and politely. Apparently you didn't want to provide it.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:42 PM   #405 
                          - I provided it to you. Why don't you read the replies to your own incessant posts? nt  MADem   Jun-21-09 01:11 PM   #408 
                             - .  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 05:13 PM   #426 
                             - Don't blame me because YOU shoot off your mouth without reading the full thread.  MADem   Jun-21-09 11:03 PM   #457 
           - I lived in the south. Younger women and African-American women  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 11:02 PM   #330 
              - I got bad news for you. I lived in the south, too. I remember "Colored" drinking fountains.  MADem   Jun-21-09 02:02 PM   #415 
        - Psssttt...your eyes ARE lying. Time for a checkup.  Jim Sagle   Jun-22-09 01:01 AM   #465 
           - Just had one.  MADem   Jun-22-09 02:01 AM   #471 
     - His use of "Ma'am" was appropriate, yes,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 02:00 AM   #138 
        - No, I do not. He started out calling her, appropriately "Madame Chair"  MADem   Jun-20-09 02:24 AM   #144 
        - I stand corrected, then ..........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 02:29 AM   #145 
        - The big deal is not that she asked, but WHEN she asked.  MADem   Jun-20-09 02:52 AM   #148 
           - You may be right about this,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 12:47 PM   #181 
           - ..........vehement, vociferous, and often irrational ?  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:37 PM   #287 
              - No,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:45 PM   #289 
                 - MADem has not flipped out in this thread.  Forkboy   Jun-20-09 07:54 PM   #294 
                 - If you read his posts about Senator Boxer's  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:56 PM   #296 
                    - I've read the thread, and watched the video...all of it except the last two minutes.  Forkboy   Jun-20-09 08:03 PM   #299 
                       - You know, you're right .......  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 08:12 PM   #302 
                 - Watch. The. Full. Hearing.  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:55 PM   #295 
                    - On second thought,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 08:00 PM   #298 
                    - Information? You don't need no steeeeenkin' information!!!!  MADem   Jun-20-09 08:12 PM   #301 
                    - You're absolutely right on this. The general did NOTHING sexist  Common Sense Party   Jun-21-09 01:34 AM   #365 
           - Total bullshit. And why is the onus on her staff and not his? You're out of line on this  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:40 PM   #197 
              - The onus is on her because she is the SENIOR in this equation.  MADem   Jun-21-09 11:23 AM   #399 
                 - What "established protocol"? Military? No, it wasn't good enough. Now everybody knows.  omega minimo   Jun-22-09 02:31 PM   #481 
                    - The protocol of polite society, something you plainly know nothing about. NT  MADem   Jun-23-09 02:23 PM   #491 
        - She didn't "step on him." NO ONE is "jumping on him." She prefers her title. He was testifying on CH  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:36 PM   #194 
        - Senator Landrieu is a southerner and the term "Ma'am" is southern  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 04:26 AM   #162 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-20-09 04:39 AM   #164 
        - Excuse you but "ma'am" and "boy" are absolutely NOT equivalent.  Raineyb   Jun-20-09 10:02 AM   #171 
        - Senator Laudrieu is also Republican and supports the white male dominant power structure status quo  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:43 PM   #199 
        - Senator Landrieu is a Democrat. Try to keep up n/t.  Ex Lurker   Jun-20-09 04:36 PM   #223 
           - Why would a Democrat participate in federal genocide in her home state?  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:54 PM   #253 
        - Hey boy, you are an idiot. That's demeaning. Saying yes maam is polite.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-20-09 04:22 PM   #216 
        - And isn't it interesting that there's an assumption that b/c they're women, they would have the same  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:32 PM   #192 
           - It doesn't matter.........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:37 PM   #225 
           - "Senator Boxer very politely and gently, almost self-effacingly asked the general for"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 05:02 PM   #256 
           - To be perfectly honest, with you,  polmaven   Jun-21-09 04:56 PM   #424 
     - there is. Non military are refered to as sir or ma'am.  mkultra   Jun-19-09 06:04 PM   #95 
     - Absolutely not. No way. She was respectful and kind and started, "Could you do me a favor."  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:35 PM   #106 
     - I disagree -  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 01:57 AM   #137 
     - If he had called an African-American senator "Boy," you would understand.  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 04:21 AM   #159 
        - You really are disgusting. You're slandering this guy and your assertion  MADem   Jun-20-09 04:42 AM   #165 
        - No it's not! You are simply wrong.  Raineyb   Jun-20-09 10:06 AM   #173 
        - "Boy" is much more highly charged -- (from black history we looked at for Juneteenth)  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:48 PM   #201 
           - Well the poster picked the dumbest of analogies.  Raineyb   Jun-20-09 10:11 PM   #326 
        - This is perhaps the dumbest argument ever made here.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-20-09 04:24 PM   #217 
        - That's pretty stupid nt  hack89   Jun-20-09 04:39 PM   #227 
     - Is there another link?  Control-Z   Jun-20-09 03:24 PM   #188 
        - Amazing isn't it - all of this over a simple request.  merh   Jun-20-09 11:13 PM   #334 
  - They are called both - it depends on the context.  hack89   Jun-20-09 04:37 PM   #226 
  - This is not a settled area of protocol.  imdjh   Jun-19-09 10:06 AM   #13 
  - Yes, it is. Ask any female general -- she'll take "ma'am" as the equivalent to "sir" any day.  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:29 AM   #24 
     - Correct. They want to be called "Senator"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:54 PM   #202 
        - No they don't. They'll take Sir, Mister Chairman, or Senator--like the  MADem   Jun-21-09 01:18 PM   #410 
  - Boxer had every right to be called Senator. It is her title and they were in a formal hearing - she  avaistheone1   Jun-19-09 10:09 AM   #15 
  - Stop calling me a "right wing panderer" because I know military protocol and you do not.  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:19 AM   #18 
     - Military protocol is not the issue here.  imdjh   Jun-19-09 10:42 AM   #28 
     - OK, now you're just being absurd. The man was in uniform, testifying for DOD.  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:49 AM   #32 
        - Glad we settled that.  imdjh   Jun-19-09 10:50 AM   #34 
        - She was within her rights. You think she was wrong. So what? She WAS within her rights  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:47 PM   #109 
           - She made an ass of herself. But she was within her "rights."  MADem   Jun-20-09 02:33 AM   #146 
           - "Boorish ass"? Perhaps you can proved any evidence of that.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:01 PM   #204 
              - I did. Bit you're too busy having a sword fight with everyone on this forum to bother to watch it.  MADem   Jun-21-09 01:33 PM   #412 
                 - I don't need 1:10 to know that Senator Boxer is one of the best and deserves more respect  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 10:25 PM   #453 
                    - Something I've said ten or more times in this thread: I like Boxer.  MADem   Jun-21-09 10:55 PM   #455 
                       - I can read half through the thread with an open mind and when the insults kick in, your credibility  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 11:45 PM   #458 
                          - The only one tossing insults is you. NT  MADem   Jun-21-09 11:48 PM   #459 
                             - Read your own post and take just one moment to consider how you shoot yourself in the foot  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 11:56 PM   #460 
                                - I have been reasoned, you've been both abusive and obnoxious.  MADem   Jun-22-09 12:10 AM   #463 
                                   - oh yes most certainly congratulations. Better luck next time. (You always do this, don't you?)  omega minimo   Jun-22-09 01:54 AM   #467 
                                      - There you go again. More accusations. This time, you are accusing me of  MADem   Jun-22-09 02:00 AM   #469 
                                         - "You really should stop insulting people and check your conduct."  omega minimo   Jun-22-09 02:13 AM   #474 
                                            - No they aren't. They're about you, accusing people of being sexist, rightwingers, etc.  MADem   Jun-22-09 02:14 AM   #475 
                                            - "Odd how ALL of your accusations are about yourself."  omega minimo   Jun-22-09 02:33 AM   #476 
                                            - There you go again, with your rightwing accusations, like a broken record. NT  MADem   Jun-22-09 02:54 AM   #477 
           - She had the right to be rude I guess - doesn't mean she had to exercise it. nt  hack89   Jun-20-09 04:40 PM   #231 
              - She wasn't "rude"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 06:40 PM   #273 
                 - She went out of her way to publicly embarrass someone - that's rudeness. nt  hack89   Jun-20-09 09:35 PM   #320 
                    - A woman senator got tired of being called "Ma'am" rather than her title and said so, politely.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:27 AM   #347 
                       - What he called her is standard military etiquette  hack89   Jun-21-09 06:03 AM   #371 
                          - Both your assumptions depend on questions posed here repeatedly; no one has the answers  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 07:31 AM   #372 
                             - The military has been briefing Congress for years  hack89   Jun-21-09 08:43 AM   #374 
                                - Go ahead. Miss the point/s. Don't have the answers, anyway.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:18 AM   #376 
                                   - There are no points - just people justifying the rudeness of an egocentric politician. nt  hack89   Jun-21-09 09:25 AM   #381 
                                      - Willful ignorance is bliss.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:26 AM   #382 
                                         - I am glad you are happy - Bye. nt  hack89   Jun-21-09 09:48 AM   #384 
                                            - Get back to us when you have the answers.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:51 AM   #386 
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     - You most certainly do not know military protocol or even common etiquette given your  avaistheone1   Jun-19-09 11:09 AM   #42 
     - Yes, I do, and I even quoted the TRADOC guidance downthread.  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:54 AM   #55 
     - Or the general's staff could let him know how to behave before a Senate committee  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:53 PM   #111 
        - Don't make a complete fool of yourself. The Army guidance tells  MADem   Jun-20-09 01:36 AM   #130 
           - Didn't see the link. Does the protocol prevent the witness from using "Senator"?  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:03 PM   #205 
     - +1.. Absolutely SPOT. ON.  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:49 PM   #110 
     - That is what you're doing. RW is doing this. Military protocol doesn't supersede Senate protocol.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 03:58 PM   #203 
  - Maybe somebody should say stuff the Madame  Chemisse   Jun-19-09 10:17 AM   #17 
  - Fat Denny Hastert was "Mister Speaker." Nancy Pelosi is "Madame Speaker."  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:33 AM   #25 
  - Well, at least we agree on that.  imdjh   Jun-19-09 10:46 AM   #30 
  - If you call her Sir, you deny her her gender.  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:57 AM   #37 
  - I just wanna KISS you  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 02:09 AM   #139 
  - I prefer the gender neutral. Why the clumsy choices? The male is not gender neutral.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:32 AM   #348 
  - actually, "their" is perfectly fine in that instance, and has been used that way for 500 years  fishwax   Jun-20-09 10:16 PM   #328 
  - The male pronoun is NOT  polmaven   Jun-21-09 05:13 PM   #425 
  - She's not. That's why she DARED to request her title in a considerate, appropriate manner.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:06 PM   #206 
  - So he should call her "sir"?  dorkulon   Jun-19-09 08:04 PM   #100 
     - He should call her what she ASKED to be called!  polmaven   Jun-21-09 05:17 PM   #429 
  - As I posted yesterday, she has the right to be asked to be addressed  Auggie   Jun-19-09 10:28 AM   #23 
  - She has the "right" to act like a fucking asshole when she does so, too!  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:42 AM   #27 
  - Maybe she was having a bad day?  Auggie   Jun-19-09 01:06 PM   #73 
     - I think she was, especially since she spoke about her frustration with the ACOE  MADem   Jun-19-09 01:17 PM   #75 
        - ACOE  malletgirl02   Jun-20-09 07:32 PM   #284 
  - It seemed she was explaining why she had a preference and did it to take responsibility  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:08 PM   #208 
  - I disagree. She's not in the military. She's a senator.  BurtWorm   Jun-19-09 10:37 AM   #26 
  - Well, you can disagree, but you're wrong. It is appropriate protocol to  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:45 AM   #29 
     - As a former woman officer and member of a general's staff, you are wrong.  kiranon   Jun-19-09 09:10 PM   #118 
        - No I am not wrong. And there are not "very few women generals."  MADem   Jun-20-09 02:17 AM   #142 
           - I heard it on the radio and yes what I said is true - a BG says "yes General" not "Ma'am."  kiranon   Jun-20-09 04:55 PM   #254 
              - Again, I do not believe anything you are saying. Environmental subcommittee meetings  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:48 PM   #292 
                 - Now I don't believe a word you say. Nice try.  kiranon   Jun-20-09 09:20 PM   #315 
                    - Ah yes, the "I'm rubber, you're glue" argument. Thanks for proving my point! nt  MADem   Jun-20-09 09:40 PM   #322 
  - She isn't in the military. They should use the more formal manner of addressing her.  Ilsa   Jun-19-09 11:48 AM   #52 
  - She's been in the Senate for three terms. The default is Sir or Ma'am.  MADem   Jun-19-09 12:04 PM   #60 
  - I agree  Crabby Appleton   Jun-19-09 12:12 PM   #62 
  - +1  dorkulon   Jun-19-09 08:02 PM   #99 
  - "Do me a favor, could you call me Senator instead of Ma'am, it's just a thing, I worked so hard to"  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:33 PM   #105 
  - She "made Democrats look good?" She made them look so good that her  MADem   Jun-20-09 03:20 AM   #153 
     - If the Reich Wing propagandize on this, the appeal will be to status quo sexism and bigotry.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:17 PM   #214 
        - Her idiot opponent already has a commercial out and is fundraising based on it.  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:30 PM   #281 
  - No. Ma'am is a sexist word left over from the period of slavery.  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 04:17 AM   #158 
     - You aren't from the South are you?  Rebubula   Jun-20-09 11:30 AM   #179 
     - Yes, I lived in the south for some years as a girl/teenager.  JDPriestly   Jun-20-09 11:10 PM   #332 
     - That's one of the most idiotic things I've read on DU lately  Ex Lurker   Jun-20-09 09:45 PM   #323 
  - I can't tell from the video if he was being condescending.  imdjh   Jun-19-09 09:51 AM   #5 
  - Is it only me , because English is my second language , but I always thought that "Ma'm" was an  UndertheOcean   Jun-19-09 09:52 AM   #7 
  - "Ma'am" was what women were called when they had no legal rights in this country.  CTyankee   Jun-19-09 09:58 AM   #10 
  - I agree.  avaistheone1   Jun-19-09 11:16 AM   #43 
  - Exactly. It may have been meant to be equal, and might seem  treestar   Jun-19-09 04:23 PM   #82 
  - "Ma'am" (short for "madam") was what women were called when people had manners.  Common Sense Party   Jun-21-09 01:45 AM   #366 
  - See Post #9 above. It's about context, in my opinion.  Hekate   Jun-19-09 09:59 AM   #11 
  - It does imply respect. It is a respectful form of address.  MADem   Jun-19-09 10:59 AM   #39 
  - That's how I was raised  tammywammy   Jun-19-09 11:23 AM   #44 
  - Senator Landrieu didn't have a problem with Walsh calling her Ma'am.  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:56 AM   #57 
     - How do you know? And if she didn't SO WHAT?!!  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 09:00 PM   #114 
        - Are you saying she is so weak-minded she wouldn't have piped up?  MADem   Jun-20-09 01:34 AM   #129 
           - No. YOU are. Another of your projections. And it's sexist to assume women all think the same.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:28 PM   #219 
              - I am not saying that at all. Try reading and stop ass-uming. It reflects badly on you. NT  MADem   Jun-20-09 08:17 PM   #305 
  - May I ask why  polmaven   Jun-21-09 05:39 PM   #433 
  - You are correct.  Raineyb   Jun-19-09 11:53 AM   #54 
  - It was, but IMO it is 19th/early 20th century stuff that needs to  treestar   Jun-19-09 04:22 PM   #81 
     - So just how do you refer in a couteous manner  MicaelS   Jun-20-09 04:03 AM   #156 
        - crickets n/t  Ex Lurker   Jun-21-09 04:22 PM   #421 
  - Hmm. This thread is playing out just about the way I thought it would.  CTyankee   Jun-19-09 10:02 AM   #12 
  - Wow, throw a little gas on the fire, why don't you? No one is saying that except YOU.  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:01 AM   #40 
  - The only controversy is you think your opinion outweighs the Senator's right to be called Senator  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:57 PM   #112 
     - No, that's not accurate, but thanks for your input. nt  MADem   Jun-20-09 02:52 AM   #149 
        - Yes it is.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:21 PM   #215 
  - Doesn't she LOVE a man in a UNIFORM?  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 08:59 PM   #113 
  - Really? You're not surprised?  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 02:13 AM   #140 
     - So am I but sadly there are those who stand with the protocol argument. For them, if the  CTyankee   Jun-20-09 09:51 AM   #169 
  - One could argue about Sir and Ma'am  Chemisse   Jun-19-09 10:14 AM   #16 
  - It wasn't simple, though.  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:38 AM   #47 
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        - There you go with the personal "characterizations" and the insults.  MADem   Jun-20-09 09:11 PM   #312 
           - Your post applies directly to you. "...she is being painted as an asswipe who hates the military..."  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 09:14 PM   #314 
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                       - I understand perfectly. You presented it. Your choice. Totally disrepectful.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:43 AM   #383 
                          - Faux outrage fails to convince. Don't tell me what I may or may not do here, either.  MADem   Jun-21-09 10:52 AM   #396 
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                                   - You are consistent. Pestering people from start to finish. Trashing one of our best senators.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 05:14 PM   #427 
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                                                     - Wahhhhhhhhhhh  omega minimo   Jun-22-09 02:00 AM   #470 
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                                                     - I am not the one behaving badly here. You are. NT  MADem   Jun-23-09 12:22 PM   #485 
                                                     - You started out badly, that's the POINT. I'll believe it when I see it. Better luck next time.  omega minimo   Jun-23-09 12:45 PM   #487 
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                                                     - No, I didn't. You simply get angry at anyone who disagrees with you.  MADem   Jun-23-09 09:38 PM   #503 
  - Good for Senator Boxer!!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!  kestrel91316   Jun-19-09 10:23 AM   #19 
  - I agree and Sen. Boxer is Senator Boxer!  goclark   Jun-19-09 10:50 AM   #35 
  - I just HATE that!  polmaven   Jun-21-09 05:50 PM   #438 
  - Could someone put this in context? Maybe a link?  Matariki   Jun-19-09 10:24 AM   #20 
  - It's long.  MADem   Jun-19-09 12:37 PM   #68 
  - Geez, Pelosi must be OUTRAGED!!  MercutioATC   Jun-19-09 10:27 AM   #22 
  - Pelosi doesn't have any "fellow Senators".  DURHAM D   Jun-19-09 10:51 AM   #36 
     - You get my point.  MercutioATC   Jun-19-09 10:59 AM   #38 
     - OK, enough of this nonsense--let's go to the MANUAL. Boxer was wrong.  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:27 AM   #46 
        - Gee, I wonder why no one responded to this.  dorkulon   Jun-20-09 12:21 AM   #125 
        - Because facts are pesky things.  MADem   Jun-20-09 01:42 AM   #132 
        - " ... scold him..."?  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 02:16 AM   #141 
           - Watch the whole tape. It is over an hour.  MADem   Jun-20-09 03:04 AM   #150 
           - No kidding. I went back and watched the clip again and was surprised at how meek she was.  CTyankee   Jun-20-09 09:57 AM   #170 
              - No kidding ............  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 11:13 AM   #178 
  - Some blogs are stating that Boxer called Condi Rice Ma'am.  edbermac   Jun-19-09 11:40 AM   #48 
  - There is tape of her on YOUTUBE, calling Condi "Madam Secretary"  MADem   Jun-19-09 11:58 AM   #58 
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  - I hate to have to say it but I have to agree with you there.  Raineyb   Jun-19-09 12:16 PM   #64 
  - Why is she a bitch for asking to be called by her official title?  EFerrari   Jun-19-09 04:24 PM   #83 
     - I think it's the tone  Dramarama   Jun-19-09 05:14 PM   #88 
        - The funny thing is, "Ma'am" and "Sir" , although usually the former  EFerrari   Jun-19-09 05:20 PM   #89 
           - I saw the video, and she came across badly. n/t  Raineyb   Jun-20-09 10:10 AM   #174 
              - I thought she looked fine.  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 03:42 PM   #198 
                 - Meh, she came across as rude to me  Raineyb   Jun-20-09 10:15 PM   #327 
  - It's standard in the military to call men "sir" and women "ma'am"  Kaleva   Jun-19-09 12:15 PM   #63 
  - Agreed n/t  tammywammy   Jun-19-09 12:24 PM   #66 
  - It's standard in the Senate to call senators, "Senator."  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 09:06 PM   #115 
  - I was raised to use ma'am and sir.  proteus_lives   Jun-19-09 12:22 PM   #65 
  - Yeah  DemocratSinceBirth   Jun-20-09 05:39 AM   #166 
  - I think it was disgusting of her and completely rude.  ItNerd4life   Jun-19-09 12:46 PM   #70 
  - Is he so uninformed he can't use the title she prefers and requests by right. No. He's not.  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 09:08 PM   #116 
  - Rude and condescending. She was doing nothing more than showing her disdain  cherokeeprogressive   Jun-19-09 01:52 PM   #77 
  - I think she came off as a self-important jackass.  Throd   Jun-19-09 02:09 PM   #78 
  - You mean like any other member of the Senate?!  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 12:51 AM   #127 
  - Senator Boxer.....  Breeze54   Jun-19-09 02:20 PM   #79 
  - Ma'am sucks, I can't put a finger on why, but whenever I get  treestar   Jun-19-09 04:20 PM   #80 
  - LOL...  Rebubula   Jun-21-09 10:54 AM   #397 
  - Boxer was grandstanding. As a woman, I find that way more annoying than being called "ma'am."  solstice   Jun-19-09 04:26 PM   #84 
  - She made a brief request, explained her reason, the hearing continued. How is that grandstanding?  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 09:09 PM   #117 
  - things that make you go hmmmm. why is this clip out here?  mopinko   Jun-19-09 05:02 PM   #85 
  - oops  mopinko   Jun-19-09 05:02 PM   #86 
  - I guess you have never been in the military  Retired AF Dem   Jun-19-09 05:07 PM   #87 
  - And the context was a Senate hearing, not a muster. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-19-09 06:01 PM   #94 
  - ma'am is the correct title of respect for non military females.  mkultra   Jun-19-09 08:00 PM   #98 
     - I think non military females get to be the deciders on that one.  EFerrari   Jun-19-09 11:53 PM   #124 
        - sure, but dont act like hes being disrespectful  mkultra   Jun-20-09 10:38 AM   #175 
           - He had no reason to invoke her gender. Her title is Senator  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 03:40 PM   #196 
  - And how many women generals do you think this BG says "Ma'am to"?  kiranon   Jun-19-09 09:18 PM   #121 
  - You're such an "expert" you think this guy is in the Air Force!  MADem   Jun-20-09 03:10 AM   #151 
  - Listened on the radio and radio person called him Air Force. I was  kiranon   Jun-20-09 05:01 PM   #255 
     - Cough. Bullshit. You did not. And you were not. You have no credibility with me. NT  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:33 PM   #285 
        - Not worth it..........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:47 PM   #290 
           - There you go again. I expected better of you and am again disappointed.  MADem   Jun-20-09 08:14 PM   #303 
  - He had zero reason to invoke her gender in that public setting.  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 03:22 AM   #154 
     - Yeah, he was being a sexist asshole when he SIR'd the shit out of Vitter too!  MADem   Jun-20-09 03:32 AM   #155 
        - If you were a woman, you would know that "Sir" and "Ma'am" are not equivalent.  kiranon   Jun-20-09 05:11 PM   #261 
           - How do you "know" what I am?? You don't. That is a shitty excuse that is dragged out  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:28 PM   #279 
              - I've got your number and probably out ranked you so you can just say Yes, Ma'am  kiranon   Jun-20-09 09:25 PM   #318 
                 - I rather doubt that. See, senior leadership usually recognize military uniforms  MADem   Jun-20-09 09:51 PM   #325 
                    - I heard it on the radio too...  polmaven   Jun-21-09 06:03 PM   #439 
                       - Anyone who has served on a general staff knows the proper forms of address,  MADem   Jun-23-09 02:34 PM   #492 
                          - My point was not the argument  polmaven   Jun-23-09 03:56 PM   #496 
                             - She couldn't have "heard" the color of his uniform on the radio.  MADem   Jun-23-09 04:18 PM   #499 
  - damn straight, FAFD  Skittles   Jun-20-09 08:47 PM   #308 
     - Can you imagine the trail of kicked asses you would have left behind had you been offended?  Forkboy   Jun-20-09 09:12 PM   #313 
        - oh, I kicked plenty of ass  Skittles   Jun-20-09 09:24 PM   #316 
           - LOL..this is why I love you.  Forkboy   Jun-20-09 09:24 PM   #317 
              - that guy was well over 6 ft tall, 200 pounds  Skittles   Jun-20-09 09:26 PM   #319 
  - He was being respectful  harry_pothead   Jun-19-09 05:42 PM   #93 
  - Any woman can be called Ma'am  Chemisse   Jun-19-09 07:19 PM   #96 
  - Of course she isn't in the military  Retired AF Dem   Jun-20-09 06:13 PM   #268 
  - She didn't snip him out. She had right and reason to her title. Explained it. Deal with it. He did.  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 09:11 PM   #119 
  - My two top fave senators are Boxer and Feingold, BUT....  nomaco-10   Jun-19-09 08:15 PM   #102 
  - If the Senator prefers to be called Senator and explains she worked hard for it, why is it even a ??  omega minimo   Jun-19-09 09:14 PM   #120 
  - We weren't in that room. It comes down to, do you trust Boxer.  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 02:22 AM   #143 
     - The entire hour and a half of testimony is available on the internet.  MADem   Jun-20-09 03:14 AM   #152 
        - MADem, thank you  handmade34   Jun-20-09 01:25 PM   #183 
        - You are quite welcome.  MADem   Jun-21-09 01:26 PM   #411 
        - "Petty"? Another projection on her behavior because she's female?  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:14 PM   #212 
        - Watch the video. Watch it. ALL of it.  MADem   Jun-20-09 07:32 PM   #283 
        - So you think women can't be petty? You think petty is a gender-specific term?  cherokeeprogressive   Jun-21-09 09:16 AM   #375 
        - If you ever run for public  obliviously   Jun-20-09 07:38 PM   #288 
           - You are enabling ignorance and bigotry and sexism. Dems need less of that, not more.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 08:37 PM   #306 
           - You are a slave to your preconcieved opinion and no amount of facts or logic will sway you.  obliviously   Jun-20-09 10:23 PM   #329 
              - That almost made sense. You agree with a flawed POV. Great. I call BULLSHIT.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 11:43 PM   #341 
                 - You have no point of view  obliviously   Jun-21-09 08:21 AM   #373 
                    - LOL  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:19 AM   #378 
                       - I am listening to posters  obliviously   Jun-21-09 10:38 AM   #392 
                          - Got yer number  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 10:44 AM   #393 
           - Thank you so much. I'm a bit past my prime for that level of public service, I think.  MADem   Jun-21-09 12:02 PM   #400 
              - i need to find some time  obliviously   Jun-21-09 01:01 PM   #406 
                 - It's easy for me--I have an abundance of time.  MADem   Jun-21-09 01:11 PM   #407 
  - I don't see Palin refered to as "Governor Palin" around here much  Kaleva   Jun-19-09 09:25 PM   #122 
  - Frankly, I'm not. Have any male senators *never* been called "Sir"?!1 n/t  UTUSN   Jun-19-09 09:28 PM   #123 
  - I don't see what is wrong with Ma'am  ccharles000   Jun-20-09 12:32 AM   #126 
  - BB PREFERS "SENATOR." SAID SO GRACIOUSLY, OFFERED A REASON, "I WORKED HARD TO GET THAT TITLE"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 12:54 AM   #128 
  - I support her too. I hate "ma'am." I just can't stand it, and apparently I'm not alone. nt  Liquorice   Jun-20-09 01:49 AM   #134 
  - If he was also calling male senators sir, this conversation is over  Threedifferentones   Jun-20-09 07:38 AM   #167 
  - Was he? Or did he call them both "Senator" and "Sir." And was she the "Chairperson"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:13 PM   #211 
  - Really? Is this so hard to figure out? She asked him to call her "Senator," her official title  CTyankee   Jun-20-09 06:55 PM   #275 
     - Of course she has every right to demand to be called only by a title  Threedifferentones   Jun-21-09 10:54 AM   #398 
  - Some of us boys like Senator Boxer, too.  saltpoint   Jun-20-09 10:03 AM   #172 
  - "Ma'am" is a title of respect. This outrage is BS  Odin2005   Jun-20-09 10:42 AM   #176 
  - The outrage over the Senator making this request is BS.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:12 PM   #210 
  - All about respect.  fortyfeetunder   Jun-20-09 12:38 PM   #180 
  - As a progressive woman, I am ashamed of Sen. Boxer's behavior  handmade34   Jun-20-09 01:22 PM   #182 
  - As a man so am I  madokie   Jun-20-09 01:25 PM   #184 
  - Ma'am is derogatory now?  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 03:30 PM   #190 
  - As a woman...  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 03:31 PM   #191 
  - fwiw. Senator is not a title at all.  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 03:45 PM   #200 
  - LMAO. That doesn't have anything to do with calling a senator a senator. nt  Liquorice   Jun-20-09 04:31 PM   #220 
  - of course!  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 06:23 PM   #272 
  - LOL. It is a job title, not a title of nobility.  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 04:36 PM   #224 
  - exactly. (nt)  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 06:20 PM   #270 
  - Saying it twice  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:45 PM   #237 
  - No its President Obama  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 06:20 PM   #269 
     - OK, honey........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 06:46 PM   #274 
        - Yes sweetie  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 07:26 PM   #278 
           - No, I'm not toasting you .......  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:29 PM   #280 
              - Impressive  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 07:51 PM   #293 
  - +1. nt  MADem   Jun-21-09 12:06 PM   #401 
  - This is just another example of the PC crowd looking for something to be offended by  Norwood   Jun-20-09 04:08 PM   #207 
  - No one said it was deliberate. She expressed her preference, rightfully so. Read the thread  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:11 PM   #209 
  - Yes, she expressed her preference  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:27 PM   #218 
  - All of that is completely false and projected from a point of male insecurity  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:34 PM   #221 
  - Being a female...  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:39 PM   #228 
  - Senator Boxer made her rightful resquest kindly, respectfully, provided her reason. It's that simple  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:44 PM   #235 
  - There was nothing  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:46 PM   #238 
     - If you can't see she was kind and respecful, you think she was an "uppity woman"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:50 PM   #245 
  - +1  dorkulon   Jun-20-09 09:50 PM   #324 
  - +1. nt  MADem   Jun-21-09 12:08 PM   #402 
  - "aware of his place"?  sylvi   Jun-20-09 11:11 PM   #333 
  - She wasn't bitchy or condescending. nt  Liquorice   Jun-20-09 04:39 PM   #229 
  - You see it one way  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:40 PM   #230 
     - So true. I just don't characterize women in general as "bitchy." nt  Liquorice   Jun-20-09 04:42 PM   #233 
     - Nor do I  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:44 PM   #236 
        - You just did. She WASN'T "bitchy." Saying she was is sexist garbage. Wake up & smell the millennium  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:49 PM   #243 
     - You want her to flatter him with coquettish behavior, which would have really been condescending  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:47 PM   #240 
  - Whoa........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:47 PM   #239 
     - Yes, I did see it  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:49 PM   #244 
        - Oh, so you can glean  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:52 PM   #250 
           - I've seen Boxer many times  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 05:04 PM   #258 
              - "Senator Boxer very politely and gently, almost self-effacingly asked the general for"  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 05:31 PM   #264 
              - Right .........  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 05:35 PM   #265 
  - I read the thread and watched the video  Norwood   Jun-20-09 04:47 PM   #241 
     - Get used to women speaking and behaving as if they are people and don't have to flirt to communicate  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 04:51 PM   #248 
        - Are you that black and white?  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:54 PM   #252 
           - Nice try. She was not a "bitch." She was clear, respectful and entrusted him to handle it.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 05:04 PM   #257 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-20-09 05:08 PM   #260 
                 - "She was being a bitch" --------- Welcome to DU. Read the Rules.  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 05:12 PM   #262 
  - Exactly  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:43 PM   #234 
  - What's "sexim"?  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:48 PM   #242 
  - Left out the second "s" in "sexism"  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:51 PM   #247 
     - Only when I'm invited to,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 04:53 PM   #251 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-20-09 05:30 PM   #263 
  - Why is it a controversy? I don't get how many people can't handle  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 04:51 PM   #246 
     - To me  FLDCVADem   Jun-20-09 04:52 PM   #249 
     - Yeah, "politely" and "clearly"  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-20-09 07:34 PM   #286 
     - Okay. Maybe I just can't see what some of you guys are seeing. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-20-09 08:54 PM   #311 
     - Yeah, she stood her turf for us with Tubbs-Jones, when our SECOND election was stolen  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 05:05 PM   #259 
  - ???  Skittles   Jun-20-09 08:46 PM   #307 
  - I'm a feminist and I thought that she was rude and petty.  Beacool   Jun-20-09 11:35 PM   #338 
  - Did you notice if he also called the male senators, "Senator"?  omega minimo   Jun-20-09 11:41 PM   #340 
  - He called Vitter "sir".  Beacool   Jun-21-09 12:36 AM   #350 
  - the General called Vitter, Sir  handmade34   Jun-21-09 01:02 AM   #354 
     - Her behavior was absolutely fine. People may not approve it b/c she's female. Doing her job. Senator  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 02:03 AM   #369 
  - That was precisely the idea  yodoobo   Jun-20-09 11:52 PM   #342 
     - Maybe, but why bully the guy at all?  Beacool   Jun-21-09 12:41 AM   #351 
     - I won't pretend to get into her mind.  yodoobo   Jun-21-09 12:57 AM   #353 
     - I agree with you on stereotypes.  Beacool   Jun-21-09 01:10 AM   #356 
     - She apologized to the guy for giving him a hard time during his testimony.  MADem   Jun-21-09 12:21 PM   #403 
     - SHE DIDN'T  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:49 AM   #385 
     - Thank you for expressing the male POV and male paranoia so completely.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 12:52 AM   #352 
        - Now, that's funny!!!  Beacool   Jun-21-09 01:04 AM   #355 
        - that reply was to someone else  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 01:12 AM   #357 
           - Oops, sorry!!!  Beacool   Jun-21-09 01:14 AM   #359 
              - It's cool, Beacool.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 01:20 AM   #360 
        - huh? I invite you to re-read the post.  yodoobo   Jun-21-09 01:21 AM   #361 
           - She "chastised a subject to gain" her rightful title, which male senators would not have to do.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 01:29 AM   #363 
              - Maybe she wasn't playing that game  yodoobo   Jun-21-09 01:48 AM   #367 
                 - Wow, look at us, we're actually discussing!!  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 01:52 AM   #368 
                    - Wonders never cease!  yodoobo   Jun-21-09 02:34 AM   #370 
  - Use of Ma'am is hardly disrespectful.  elmaji   Jun-21-09 01:13 AM   #358 
  - As a California Democrat I have license to call Senator Boxer a disgrace to my state and to my party  slackmaster   Jun-21-09 01:43 PM   #413 
  - As a California Democrat I have license to support Senator Boxer...  YvonneCa   Jun-21-09 03:28 PM   #417 
  - If a Senator asks you to call him or her "Senator", you call the Senator "Senator"...  BlooInBloo   Jun-21-09 03:36 PM   #418 
  - I'll call a Senator whatever I damn well please  Ex Lurker   Jun-21-09 04:25 PM   #423 
  - Good answer! nt  woo me with science   Jun-21-09 09:43 PM   #446 
  - Bingo!  Common Sense Party   Jun-22-09 11:38 AM   #480 
  - This could also be a matter for DUers to attempt to support her rather than promote RW attack memes.  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 05:16 PM   #428 
  - Yes Maam, whatever you say.  AngryAmish   Jun-21-09 04:08 PM   #420 
  - Minchia  DarbyUSMC   Jun-21-09 05:49 PM   #437 
  - Senator Boxer is the only senator that challenged the bogus Ohio count in Stolen Election #2 in 2004  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 09:33 PM   #443 
     - Your comments are becoming more refined and polished! N/T  obliviously   Jun-21-09 10:04 PM   #451 
        - Your snap judgements got the best of you  omega minimo   Jun-21-09 11:57 PM   #461 
  - Boxer is a joke  Brooklyns_Finest   Jun-22-09 09:59 PM   #484 
  - Your post is a joke  omega minimo   Jun-23-09 12:42 PM   #486 
  - She's my representative and almost makes up for her counterpart, Diane Feinstein.  AtomicKitten   Jun-23-09 03:18 PM   #494 
     - That's a tall order for anyone.  Forkboy   Jun-23-09 03:48 PM   #495 
        - that's a fact  AtomicKitten   Jun-23-09 03:58 PM   #497 
           - Well if you ever get the chance to lob one without her in the way...  Forkboy   Jun-23-09 04:05 PM   #498 
              - I'll post it as soon as I make bail. ;)  AtomicKitten   Jun-23-09 04:31 PM   #500 
                 - Hell, I'll post your bail!  Forkboy   Jun-23-09 04:34 PM   #501 
 

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