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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 09:43 AM
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14. hospitals have a fair amount of power, too.
and private practices key their prices off hospital rates. insurance companies are certainly powerful, but not all-powerful in this case.
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  -riddle me this: how does ADDING more buyers to the health insurance pool LOWER prices? unblock  Jun-19-09 09:06 AM   #0 
  - One problem with this...  SteppingRazor   Jun-19-09 09:09 AM   #1 
  - individuals are CHARGED more, but don't always PAY more  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:39 AM   #11 
     - But could they really negotiate higher rates?  SteppingRazor   Jun-19-09 09:41 AM   #12 
        - hospitals have a fair amount of power, too.  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:43 AM   #14 
           - Certainly. And another problem with the issue I raised...  SteppingRazor   Jun-19-09 09:45 AM   #15 
              - at best we can hope for a benefit lasting as much as a decade or so  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:47 AM   #17 
  - supposedly, when people are in competition for providing a service,  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-19-09 09:12 AM   #2 
  - greater competition among buyers does not reduce costs.  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:41 AM   #13 
  - The reduction in costs  Turbineguy   Jun-19-09 09:12 AM   #3 
  - this is a fair point, if people actually use medical services more efficiently  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:45 AM   #16 
  - Theoretically, anyway...  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jun-19-09 09:15 AM   #4 
  - is it really just healthy people who don't get insurance?  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:49 AM   #18 
     - I'm sure that's true. But the number of healthy people would also increase.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jun-19-09 10:07 AM   #22 
  - Increasing demand at the beginning of an illness...  Cassandra   Jun-19-09 09:16 AM   #5 
  - agreed.  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:49 AM   #19 
  - It doesn't, prices will only increase with no public option  WeDidIt   Jun-19-09 09:16 AM   #6 
  - Nope - it's the same reason shared healthcare is cheaper overall  dmallind   Jun-19-09 09:18 AM   #7 
  - i'm really not convinced that it's just the young and fit who don't get insurance  unblock   Jun-19-09 09:53 AM   #20 
  - Universal coverage increases utilization but it also increases revenue.  Gormy Cuss   Jun-19-09 09:21 AM   #8 
  - Here's My Rub..."Mandatory"  KharmaTrain   Jun-19-09 09:23 AM   #9 
  - Widening the pool as far as possible  Warpy   Jun-19-09 09:35 AM   #10 
     - bingo! health INSURANCE isn't in need of reform  unblock   Jun-19-09 10:05 AM   #21 

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