Ilsa
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Tue Jun-16-09 06:37 PM
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| 23. Amenities are fine, but leave the heated seats up north. I'd like some |
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leg room in the back for my tall, autistic son. And access to cargo in the truck while the family is on the road, like in a crossover vehicle.
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| -Electric cars rolling off assembly line soon |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-16-09 02:25 AM |
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Huh, notice that GM is not mentioned in this line: |
Selatius |
Jun-16-09 02:40 AM |
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Which means it may be curtains for the Chevy Volt? |
Deja Q |
Jun-16-09 06:38 PM |
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The Volt isn't an electric car. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 06:51 PM |
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The volt is an electric car. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 07:40 PM |
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Wrong. It's a series hybrid. It's no more an electric car than the Prius is. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:03 PM |
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Wrong. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:15 PM |
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The Prius is not a cheap first step. It's far more technologically sophisticated than the Volt. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:22 PM |
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You doubt it? |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:39 PM |
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The Volt is just a first step too though toward the ultimate goal of a fully electric vehicle. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 09:04 PM |
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If engineered right no. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 09:49 PM |
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Does it have a gas tank? If so, why? And if so, isn't it using a combination of |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-16-09 08:38 PM |
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If you want empty the tank. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:42 PM |
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Wrong. The Prius CAN do that too. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:46 PM |
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I don't know. Oh, here's some research to help you out: |
Deja Q |
Jun-16-09 07:45 PM |
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Exactly. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 07:57 PM |
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"Now strap the gasoline generator to the car." |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:09 PM |
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You miss the larger macro economic and engineering ramifications. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:21 PM |
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I never said it was "just" another hybrid. But it CLEARLY is a hybrid by any definition of the term |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:26 PM |
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Defined by media or defined by the defining body. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:57 PM |
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Hmm, interesting. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 09:05 PM |
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Yeah it makes everything difficult. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 09:16 PM |
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LOL. "The Volt is an electric car, though it will use gas for longer trips." |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:03 PM |
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Maybe the term generator, rather than ICE would help. |
Touchdown |
Jun-16-09 10:00 PM |
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Links to Chevy marketing materials aren't "research" |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:15 PM |
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Then why haven't they. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:30 PM |
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Some people believe that a parallel hybrid is more efficient. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:42 PM |
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Actually, the timeline for the Volt doesn't fit the article. That may be the reason. |
4lbs |
Jun-16-09 09:38 PM |
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and I think that will be pushed back at least 6-12 mo due to the BK which is a shame n/t |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 09:51 PM |
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True. If anything, they should move up the timeline on the Volt, and put the cost at around $25,000 |
4lbs |
Jun-16-09 09:54 PM |
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Even @ $40K the word is GM is loses $$$ hand over fist. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 09:58 PM |
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If they are losing money even at a selling point of $40,000, then how can the others sell theirs |
4lbs |
Jun-16-09 10:07 PM |
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First nobody has announced firm prices. |
Statistical |
Jun-17-09 07:13 AM |
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A pure EV Volt is unlikely to be cheaper... |
Petals |
Jun-17-09 08:14 AM |
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Yeah you probably are right. |
Statistical |
Jun-17-09 09:13 AM |
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I'll believe a practical electric car when I see it. Battery tech is still too |
oldnslo |
Jun-16-09 03:11 AM |
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Yeah...Tesla motors is primitive and insufficient... |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-16-09 03:18 AM |
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The issue is long-range driving |
krispos42 |
Jun-16-09 03:54 AM |
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It's not for you---it's for me. |
roody |
Jun-16-09 05:02 AM |
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I've shocked my self damn near unconscious with capacitors on a TV... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-16-09 05:56 AM |
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Those run at higher voltages, I believe |
krispos42 |
Jun-16-09 11:14 AM |
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There is a car with capacitors already. |
Touchdown |
Jun-16-09 03:51 PM |
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Capacitors tend to have this bad result of exploding when seriously damaged. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 04:06 PM |
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Safety would have to be a big issue when designing crash/crumple zones. |
Selatius |
Jun-16-09 06:22 PM |
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Two car families could have one electric, one gas. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 04:00 PM |
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It turns out if you work the numbers... |
Tesha |
Jun-16-09 07:22 PM |
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Good point. Never thought of that. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 09:28 PM |
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Bollocks. n/t |
theophilus |
Jun-16-09 03:27 AM |
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Primitive. Hmmm. |
Touchdown |
Jun-16-09 03:39 AM |
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Body by Lotus |
MichellesBFF |
Jun-16-09 05:52 AM |
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This isn't 1979. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 04:02 PM |
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Great idea, maybe not so great implementation |
seabeckind |
Jun-16-09 06:23 AM |
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Oh, and one last thing |
seabeckind |
Jun-16-09 06:27 AM |
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a great urban car but that`s it. |
madrchsod |
Jun-16-09 06:33 AM |
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That's it? |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 06:54 PM |
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In innovative design |
seabeckind |
Jun-16-09 07:59 AM |
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People are already talking about the idea of automated battery switching stations |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 06:56 PM |
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I don't see that catching on but.. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 07:41 PM |
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Just what we need, more demand on an already inadequate power grid |
ThomWV |
Jun-16-09 04:11 PM |
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Sure, coal is a problem |
caraher |
Jun-16-09 06:30 PM |
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"Power plants are simply more efficient than car engines" |
ThomWV |
Jun-17-09 07:26 AM |
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Everything you applied to coal applies to oil. |
Statistical |
Jun-17-09 09:17 AM |
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There is plenty of capacity already in off-peak hours, and coal electricity is cleaner than gas |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 07:02 PM |
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Dear sweet Jesus, look at the source you cited |
ThomWV |
Jun-17-09 09:21 AM |
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Just dismiss the source but ICE are so horribly inefficent that even coal is better. |
Statistical |
Jun-17-09 09:48 AM |
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That isn't a problem everywhere in the US Thom. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-17-09 09:26 AM |
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subaru electric car......... want |
tabbycat31 |
Jun-16-09 04:34 PM |
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Amenities are fine, but leave the heated seats up north. I'd like some |
Ilsa |
Jun-16-09 06:37 PM |
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Power companies are mostly coal-fueled. |
SoCalDem |
Jun-16-09 06:58 PM |
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Electric cars are still cleaner than gasoline even when powered by coal burning plants. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 07:03 PM |
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In small numbers, yes. |
SoCalDem |
Jun-16-09 07:13 PM |
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The numbers don't matter. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:11 PM |
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and neither is the cost. |
Statistical |
Jun-17-09 12:31 AM |
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Like hell they don't |
ThomWV |
Jun-17-09 07:18 AM |
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electricity is a magnitude cheaper than gasoline. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 07:50 PM |
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Do they go a 100 miles using the AC in summer and the Heater/Defroster in winter? |
NNN0LHI |
Jun-16-09 07:05 PM |
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I'm all for it, anybody seen these? They're spendy but they seem pretty cool |
bridgit |
Jun-16-09 07:08 PM |
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I like those, especially the Roadster |
Jack Sprat |
Jun-16-09 07:14 PM |
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I agree, there's maybe 1/2 dozen round town here and we seen a couple... |
bridgit |
Jun-16-09 07:21 PM |
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Bad news... |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 07:54 PM |
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Tesla has the right idea though. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-16-09 08:13 PM |
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+1. Tesla was the first company that got me interested in electric vehicles. |
Statistical |
Jun-16-09 08:59 PM |
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Correct imo Tesla has the right idea |
bridgit |
Jun-17-09 01:49 AM |
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If done right, an electric car can be beautiful like the ones below |
alfredo |
Jun-17-09 10:06 AM |
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