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Wholly apart from this particular context, there is a difference between attempting to persuade someone to change their mind through discussion, and interfering with their volition to engage or refrain from any particular action.
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| -Why are anti-abortion people allowed to post at DU? |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:21 PM |
#0 |
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I've never seen any |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-12-09 09:23 PM |
#1 |
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Nope...there's one in a thread right now that doesn't believe abortion should be legal. |
Lars39 |
Jun-12-09 09:27 PM |
#7 |
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I have. Today. |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 09:27 PM |
#8 |
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visit the choice forum... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:28 PM |
#11 |
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Well that is a shocker. |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-12-09 09:32 PM |
#18 |
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we created a "pro-choice" forum... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:38 PM |
#29 |
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Good grief! |
Suich |
Jun-12-09 09:40 PM |
#32 |
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Yikes! That shocks me, too, and I've been around for quite awhile, have even been a mod here... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Jun-13-09 03:31 AM |
#235 |
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I wager that just about every poster on DU is "pro-life". |
Hansel |
Jun-12-09 09:30 PM |
#15 |
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Pro-life and pro-choice--------it's possible |
panader0 |
Jun-12-09 09:34 PM |
#24 |
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Yes. |
Gwendolyn |
Jun-12-09 09:34 PM |
#25 |
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I think I agree. That term has always bugged me. |
Rhiannon12866 |
Jun-13-09 03:24 AM |
#234 |
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Well, you've missed a lot. eom. |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:30 PM |
#16 |
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My mental health demands |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-12-09 09:33 PM |
#21 |
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Thanks for that. |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:54 PM |
#47 |
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Same here |
karynnj |
Jun-13-09 02:39 PM |
#260 |
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"A public statement has been made by DU owners that Gay Marriage....." |
FLAprogressive |
Jun-12-09 09:24 PM |
#2 |
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FAIL. |
KamaAina |
Jun-12-09 09:33 PM |
#23 |
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The Sacred Tablets are secreted under the DU moderator Hot Tub. |
NYC_SKP |
Jun-12-09 09:46 PM |
#38 |
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Skinner: "We have very few litmus test issues on DU ... But this is a litmus test issue" |
bananas |
Jun-12-09 10:55 PM |
#119 |
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I don't think Obama would be banned according to the DU rules cited above. |
NYC_SKP |
Jun-12-09 11:12 PM |
#134 |
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Skinner's statement is not about whether or not an elected person will enforce the law |
bananas |
Jun-12-09 11:30 PM |
#154 |
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You may be right. But... |
NYC_SKP |
Jun-12-09 11:47 PM |
#164 |
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"If DU had existed back during the civil rights movement" |
dorkulon |
Jun-13-09 12:24 AM |
#181 |
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So supporting equal rights for pregnant women is optional... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-13-09 04:46 AM |
#238 |
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The mods have a hot tub? No fair! |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-12-09 11:48 PM |
#167 |
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It's filthy, you don't wanna go in there. |
NYC_SKP |
Jun-12-09 11:59 PM |
#175 |
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No secretions in the hot tub!!!! nt |
Robb |
Jun-13-09 07:02 PM |
#267 |
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Is there a public list of the "owers"....? |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 09:58 PM |
#52 |
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Are you high? |
MercutioATC |
Jun-12-09 09:59 PM |
#54 |
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Actually, Skinner did make that public statement |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-12-09 10:19 PM |
#80 |
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Another fierce advocate? |
RetroLounge |
Jun-12-09 10:28 PM |
#94 |
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The Public Statement: |
Hissyspit |
Jun-12-09 10:27 PM |
#90 |
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That's what I get for never, ever, ever going into GD-Poo |
KamaAina |
Jun-12-09 11:15 PM |
#138 |
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DU certainly does have owners |
yodoobo |
Jun-13-09 12:57 AM |
#195 |
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Huh? Skinner owns DU and he makes the rules. |
Rhiannon12866 |
Jun-13-09 02:57 AM |
#233 |
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The Public Statement: |
Hissyspit |
Jun-12-09 10:30 PM |
#96 |
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Because homophobia has been tolerated and encouraged recently. |
FLAprogressive |
Jun-12-09 11:03 PM |
#125 |
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Oh, o.k. Gotcha. |
Hissyspit |
Jun-12-09 11:11 PM |
#132 |
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That's from 2004! |
KamaAina |
Jun-12-09 11:20 PM |
#144 |
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Civil discourse?? |
cecilfirefox |
Jun-12-09 09:24 PM |
#3 |
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I wonder that as well |
bicentennial_baby |
Jun-12-09 09:25 PM |
#4 |
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Me too |
LostinVA |
Jun-12-09 09:56 PM |
#50 |
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I have yet to see a post from anyone saying that abortion should be illegal |
bluestateguy |
Jun-12-09 09:26 PM |
#5 |
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then visit the choice forum. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:36 PM |
#27 |
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+ 1 |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 09:49 PM |
#41 |
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hey you...! |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:57 PM |
#51 |
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back atcha |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 10:01 PM |
#57 |
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Agreed. |
Merlot |
Jun-12-09 09:26 PM |
#6 |
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Yep. nt |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:32 PM |
#20 |
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+1...n/t |
Hepburn |
Jun-12-09 09:41 PM |
#34 |
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The Democratic Party DOES NOT OWN democraticunderground.com |
Selatius |
Jun-12-09 09:27 PM |
#9 |
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I absolutely agree with that, Selatius. however... |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:36 PM |
#28 |
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Well, Skinner is free to do as he wishes. That's basically the point. |
Selatius |
Jun-12-09 09:40 PM |
#33 |
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Cripes! |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:51 PM |
#43 |
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Like the Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave. |
elocs |
Jun-12-09 10:18 PM |
#76 |
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Not to mention the trolls who stroke out while reading our crazy librul shit. |
DCKit |
Jun-12-09 11:16 PM |
#140 |
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Agree . . . and we should pressure Skinner to create consistency between both issues . .. |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 10:01 PM |
#55 |
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Bigotry is not allowed |
CreekDog |
Jun-12-09 09:28 PM |
#10 |
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Why not? I'm anti-abortion. |
Gman |
Jun-12-09 09:28 PM |
#12 |
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you contradict yourself. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:33 PM |
#22 |
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No, you're absolutely wrong |
Gman |
Jun-12-09 09:38 PM |
#30 |
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perhaps... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:44 PM |
#37 |
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Here's the thing... |
Gman |
Jun-12-09 10:20 PM |
#81 |
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you're fortunate they don't know bliss... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:24 PM |
#86 |
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In any event, my point is that |
Gman |
Jun-12-09 11:17 PM |
#141 |
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Disagreement and discussion are not "interference" |
jberryhill |
Jun-12-09 10:44 PM |
#108 |
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forgive me kind sir... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:27 PM |
#149 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-12-09 11:46 PM |
#163 |
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You seem to make an invalid assumption |
jberryhill |
Jun-13-09 02:35 PM |
#258 |
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"but supporting someone's right certainly doesn't entail trying to talk them out of their choice" |
TCJ70 |
Jun-13-09 01:13 AM |
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+1 |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 09:49 PM |
#42 |
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No no no no no no no |
spoony |
Jun-12-09 11:02 PM |
#123 |
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?????????????? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-13-09 12:28 AM |
#184 |
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Uh huh |
spoony |
Jun-13-09 10:45 AM |
#251 |
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Exactly! |
pipi_k |
Jun-12-09 09:34 PM |
#26 |
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which is also why most that claim to be, aren't "pro-life" |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:48 PM |
#40 |
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Well, for young women, it's often a very long-term fix, giving them a second chance at life . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 10:03 PM |
#60 |
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Absolutely |
Gman |
Jun-12-09 10:22 PM |
#84 |
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So would women . . . all of us! |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 11:27 PM |
#150 |
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"There's nothing good about it." |
Arugula Latte |
Jun-12-09 10:29 PM |
#95 |
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I'm "pro-abortion" |
Mushroom |
Jun-13-09 12:16 AM |
#178 |
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The OP should have said anti-choice because the debate is choice. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-13-09 08:31 AM |
#243 |
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Time for the purges to begin! Off to the re-education camps with them! |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 09:29 PM |
#13 |
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Are you accusing me of wanting to re-educate people? |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 09:47 PM |
#39 |
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Because you're dishonest. I've never seen DUer who is personally anti-abortion call |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 10:28 PM |
#91 |
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There's one in a thread in GD right now. |
Lars39 |
Jun-12-09 10:32 PM |
#99 |
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And how are they faring? Are they winning new anti-choice converts? |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 10:42 PM |
#106 |
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Someone did just last night. |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 10:37 PM |
#102 |
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Is that person popular here? Are lots of DUers agreeing with him/her/it? |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 10:51 PM |
#115 |
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I'm not thinking of that individual, exactly, but of the atmosphere |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 10:57 PM |
#120 |
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Said it straight out, "women who have abortions are murderers." |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-12-09 11:19 PM |
#143 |
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We've tried to be "reasonable" too long while the misogynists |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 11:28 PM |
#152 |
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I know. Ripley's OP has a definite point. Dr. Tiller's murder is the punctuation mark. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-12-09 11:48 PM |
#165 |
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That Dr. Tiller's murder was allowed to go forward when FBI |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 11:53 PM |
#172 |
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You don't understand. |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 11:13 PM |
#136 |
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Peace to you, too. I hope you'll read my post #146 below, in response to one of your other replies |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 11:38 PM |
#157 |
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Even tho you call me a liar, |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 10:52 PM |
#117 |
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I apologize for giving you the impression that I have anything against you personally. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 11:22 PM |
#146 |
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It's the hypocrisy, scarletwoman |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 11:42 PM |
#161 |
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Really? She's posting now. |
REP |
Jun-12-09 11:18 PM |
#142 |
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And how may DUers are agreeing with her? Is she fundamentally damaging the integrity of DU by |
scarletwoman |
Jun-12-09 11:27 PM |
#151 |
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But the real question for me is, what are we doing |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 11:39 PM |
#159 |
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I'm on dialup and had to quit the thread at about 200 posts |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-12-09 11:42 PM |
#160 |
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You must not read much at DU not to have seen any... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-13-09 04:37 AM |
#237 |
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A civil conversation on any topic should be encouraged, especially if your viewpoint is correct. |
RandomThoughts |
Jun-12-09 09:29 PM |
#14 |
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Cause it is seen as a "woman 's" issue. |
DURHAM D |
Jun-12-09 09:31 PM |
#17 |
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great point |
CitizenPatriot |
Jun-13-09 12:18 AM |
#179 |
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I've seen a few "against it personally but support a woman's right to choose" posts... |
Fleshdancer |
Jun-12-09 09:32 PM |
#19 |
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...then visit the "choice" forum. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 09:52 PM |
#44 |
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There are several in an active GD thread right now. |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 10:02 PM |
#58 |
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For the same reason your little brother could hit you... |
Gwendolyn |
Jun-12-09 09:39 PM |
#31 |
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I agree with you...especially since third trimester abortions are for reasons of "self-defense" . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 09:42 PM |
#35 |
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Because reasonable people can disagree |
sniffa |
Jun-12-09 09:44 PM |
#36 |
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Because this is Democratic Underground, not NARAL Underground. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Jun-12-09 09:53 PM |
#45 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-12-09 09:55 PM |
#48 |
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Agreed, enough of this purification bullshit. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 09:56 PM |
#49 |
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My, you sure are angry. |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 10:02 PM |
#59 |
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who's talking about "abortion rights"? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:05 PM |
#61 |
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But this is Democratic Underground, not PFLAG .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 10:08 PM |
#64 |
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thank you for your post |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 09:53 PM |
#46 |
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Because there's room for misogynist crotch-sniffing busybodies in the "big tent"? |
LeftyMom |
Jun-12-09 09:59 PM |
#53 |
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I have sympathy for the ignorant. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:01 PM |
#56 |
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it is not "just one issue". it means FREEDOM for half the human race. |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 10:06 PM |
#62 |
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Yes lets all start running around screaming how this one issue is THE ISSUE... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:10 PM |
#67 |
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"our cause" |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 10:12 PM |
#70 |
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"Our cause" =progressive movement. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:14 PM |
#72 |
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i would rather engage with a real progressive |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 10:23 PM |
#85 |
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LOL ignoring someone ALWAYS makes you right. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:27 PM |
#89 |
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spoken like a true "dude." |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:16 PM |
#74 |
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More like spoken by someone who doesn't like driving away the flock. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:19 PM |
#78 |
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yes, because the "all important dude faction" |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:28 PM |
#92 |
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I love how people default to "He's a woman hater!!!" |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:30 PM |
#97 |
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really...show me where? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:43 PM |
#107 |
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Right here... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:48 PM |
#113 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-12-09 10:58 PM |
#121 |
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Self Delete. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 11:01 PM |
#122 |
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read them again... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:06 PM |
#128 |
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Thanks. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 11:07 PM |
#129 |
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Well done, Bliss! |
Number23 |
Jun-13-09 05:55 AM |
#239 |
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The fact that people are getting KILLED, |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-12-09 11:36 PM |
#155 |
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Clamping down on speech/dissent because of an emergency? |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:06 AM |
#201 |
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Um. No. |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-13-09 01:09 AM |
#204 |
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LOL. I'm pro-choice, silly. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:17 AM |
#211 |
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So you just made a throw away accusation |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-13-09 01:24 AM |
#216 |
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I said what you said was Orwellian. I never said that you were Orwellian. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:29 AM |
#218 |
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No I did not mispeak. |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-13-09 01:32 AM |
#220 |
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Oh okay. I get it. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:37 AM |
#222 |
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I only want DU standards interpreted to include the issue of a woman's choice. |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-13-09 01:42 AM |
#225 |
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Okay. I read them... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:49 AM |
#230 |
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Unfortunately, many of them come to disrupt, not to honestly debate . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-12-09 10:09 PM |
#66 |
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Trolls deserve to get banned. Dissenters do not. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:10 PM |
#68 |
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When they act like Fredda, oh my yes, "dissenters" DO deserve the pizza. |
Occulus |
Jun-13-09 01:36 AM |
#221 |
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I have no clue what you are talking about. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:38 AM |
#223 |
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who has made you the judge. pot meet kettle. nt |
boston bean |
Jun-13-09 06:26 AM |
#240 |
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I believe I could ask that of anyone in here. Why bother having discussions |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 03:59 PM |
#264 |
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There used to be this troll here named Fredda Weinberg |
Occulus |
Jun-15-09 01:06 AM |
#276 |
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I remember that one. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-15-09 02:03 AM |
#278 |
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I used to be for the death penalty in some cases |
Kaleva |
Jun-12-09 10:11 PM |
#69 |
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one issue, really...? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:13 PM |
#71 |
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Do you usually intro with such condescending remarks? |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:16 PM |
#75 |
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i'd appreciate it f you kept your 'ideas' to yourself... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:27 PM |
#88 |
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Oh how the insults fly when logic wins. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:28 PM |
#93 |
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oh how the bullshit flies.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:37 PM |
#103 |
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Deleted. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:41 PM |
#105 |
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ummmmm....it's not a contest. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:45 PM |
#110 |
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No, it really must be a contest. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 10:52 PM |
#116 |
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last i checked... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:03 PM |
#124 |
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Yet you are still here... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 11:06 PM |
#127 |
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what's interesting... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:09 PM |
#131 |
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You're right. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 11:13 PM |
#135 |
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if you think it's "so terrible".... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:21 PM |
#145 |
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Abortion is ONE issue. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 11:27 PM |
#148 |
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we disagree...that's fair. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:37 PM |
#156 |
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Disagreeing is fine. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-12-09 11:44 PM |
#162 |
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give you what you want...? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-13-09 12:02 AM |
#176 |
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“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:24 AM |
#180 |
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aaaawwwwww |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-13-09 12:27 AM |
#183 |
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. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:31 AM |
#186 |
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“All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.” |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:32 AM |
#187 |
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nice to see you know how to utilize a search engine. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-13-09 12:45 AM |
#191 |
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Bye. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:47 AM |
#193 |
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teh menz! |
musette_sf |
Jun-12-09 10:21 PM |
#82 |
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and I ask why the fuck are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan? |
Mari333 |
Jun-12-09 10:07 PM |
#63 |
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Cool, you caught the second part... |
Ripley |
Jun-12-09 10:09 PM |
#65 |
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President Obama isn't a member of DU |
Kaleva |
Jun-12-09 10:18 PM |
#77 |
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I'm pro-abortion, but I respect the opinions of those in the pro-life crowd... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jun-12-09 10:14 PM |
#73 |
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whoa, whoa, whoa.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:21 PM |
#83 |
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Hey thats just he way I see it. |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jun-12-09 10:31 PM |
#98 |
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eeeuuwwww.....eeeeuuuwwwww.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:35 PM |
#100 |
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I dont need anyone's permission to have an opinion... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jun-12-09 10:47 PM |
#111 |
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of course you don't.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 10:51 PM |
#114 |
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Probably... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jun-12-09 11:08 PM |
#130 |
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if you didn't care... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:14 PM |
#137 |
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I wasnt trying to "impress" anyone, I was stating my opinion which is one I dont think... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jun-12-09 11:50 PM |
#171 |
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good grief... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-12-09 11:55 PM |
#173 |
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Why do you have a problem with what he said? |
Gwendolyn |
Jun-13-09 03:03 PM |
#262 |
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i addressed this w/him. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-13-09 07:00 PM |
#266 |
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Oh gosh, I have no issues with you either. I read your posts and didn't understand... |
Gwendolyn |
Jun-13-09 07:56 PM |
#270 |
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that's cool, gwendolyn. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-13-09 08:02 PM |
#273 |
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Not so fast |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jun-13-09 12:31 PM |
#253 |
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You have excellent values. I commend you on them. |
Gwendolyn |
Jun-13-09 07:59 PM |
#271 |
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The problem with some "pro-lifers" (not all, but some) |
MiniMe |
Jun-15-09 01:54 AM |
#277 |
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That's an interesting question. And in view of the full on assault |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 10:19 PM |
#79 |
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I'd like to see that statement. But in the meantime, here's all that I could find: |
pnorman |
Jun-12-09 10:25 PM |
#87 |
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Post by skinner on pro-life members |
Kaleva |
Jun-12-09 10:36 PM |
#101 |
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Were I to state that Obama has FAR more important issues to deal with at present, |
pnorman |
Jun-12-09 11:28 PM |
#153 |
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It would certainly seem rather callous...in light of today. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-12-09 11:48 PM |
#166 |
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Were I to state that the above is |
pnorman |
Jun-13-09 12:46 AM |
#192 |
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I'm sorry. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-13-09 01:02 AM |
#199 |
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No "apologies" needed. And I too "misinderstand" on occasion. |
pnorman |
Jun-13-09 01:21 AM |
#214 |
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Considering these points > |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-12-09 11:48 PM |
#168 |
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Maybe folks are not opposed to abortion RIGHTS, they worry about abortion as a public health |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-12-09 10:40 PM |
#104 |
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Calling abortion murder and hoping it is made illegal isn't exactly |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 10:47 PM |
#112 |
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At the risk of getting horribly flamed |
snot |
Jun-12-09 10:45 PM |
#109 |
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The problem I see with #1 is that once you go with the idea |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 10:53 PM |
#118 |
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Wow, just WOW, you sound a lot like me. That's how I look at the argument as well. |
musicblind |
Jun-12-09 11:38 PM |
#158 |
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Third trimester abortions are overwhelmingly done |
EFerrari |
Jun-12-09 11:50 PM |
#170 |
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I clearly stated in my post that 3rd trimester abortions are only done for UNUSUAL circumstances |
musicblind |
Jun-13-09 09:58 AM |
#248 |
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Third term abortion is not murder. |
EFerrari |
Jun-13-09 02:34 PM |
#257 |
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Would it frighten you if I told you that killing certain infants isn't murder? |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:53 AM |
#194 |
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It wouldn't frighten me. I'd disagree. But would just want to discuss it |
musicblind |
Jun-13-09 10:00 AM |
#249 |
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Beats me. A woman's sovereignty over her own body should be absolute and non-negotiable |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-12-09 11:05 PM |
#126 |
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+ 1 |
musette_sf |
Jun-13-09 01:09 AM |
#205 |
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My two cents |
dsc |
Jun-12-09 11:11 PM |
#133 |
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Because they might agree with "us" on 99 other issues. nt |
greyl |
Jun-12-09 11:15 PM |
#139 |
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I am one of the posters that they are talking about. |
Th1onein |
Jun-13-09 12:11 AM |
#177 |
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Are you vegetarian? |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:27 AM |
#182 |
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LOL. No, not a vegetarian. |
Th1onein |
Jun-13-09 12:31 AM |
#185 |
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You should read some Peter Singer because you aren't actually pro-life. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 12:34 AM |
#189 |
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LOL. Yeah, right. |
Th1onein |
Jun-13-09 01:06 AM |
#200 |
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Nope. Because there is a proper argument for eating plant life and the "products" of animals |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:08 AM |
#203 |
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So, you know that plants are stupid, then? |
Th1onein |
Jun-13-09 01:11 AM |
#206 |
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We know that plants do not have "intelligence", yes. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:14 AM |
#210 |
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I've already figured that out. |
Th1onein |
Jun-13-09 01:19 AM |
#212 |
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You should apply it to all things. Otherwise you are being inconsistent. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:20 AM |
#213 |
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I agree with you. |
Th1onein |
Jun-13-09 01:22 AM |
#215 |
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I'm fortunate to only care about beings that are self-aware. |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:27 AM |
#217 |
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re: "self-aware" |
bananas |
Jun-13-09 04:16 AM |
#236 |
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You can't hold that life is sacred while wishing to deny women |
EFerrari |
Jun-13-09 12:33 AM |
#188 |
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I've never seen her write anything about denying women basic medical care. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 01:01 AM |
#197 |
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Then you need to rethink what you are calling the basic health care |
EFerrari |
Jun-13-09 01:13 AM |
#208 |
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I've got a good handle on it thanks. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 01:48 AM |
#229 |
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Calling out fellow DUers as murderers is pretty despicable imo. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-13-09 12:40 AM |
#190 |
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What about all those Dems who agree with us on everything but same-sex marriage? |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-13-09 01:14 AM |
#209 |
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Obama is a bigot on same sex marriage. I have no qualms about saying that |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-13-09 01:29 AM |
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If that's our attitude, then Obama would be justified in viewing us skeptically. |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-13-09 09:24 AM |
#245 |
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But you have been shut down |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-13-09 10:26 PM |
#274 |
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Don't think it's bigotry. Try political cowardice n/t |
eridani |
Jun-15-09 06:13 AM |
#279 |
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Do most people agree with |
Dramarama |
Jun-12-09 11:24 PM |
#147 |
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I would love to see Skinner repeat his eloquent letter in support of gay rights, for women's rights. |
omega minimo |
Jun-12-09 11:49 PM |
#169 |
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+ 1 |
musette_sf |
Jun-13-09 11:51 AM |
#252 |
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It would stand beautifully as is, with the subject changed. Simple. |
omega minimo |
Jun-13-09 02:22 PM |
#254 |
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Because the owners of this site think freedom of choice is more |
Rex |
Jun-12-09 11:59 PM |
#174 |
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That would be Pro-Choice: Reproductive Health and Privacy for all by law. No busybodies. |
omega minimo |
Jun-13-09 02:24 PM |
#255 |
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So we have to toe the line of the Democratic Platform or be banned? Are we that intolerant? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 12:59 AM |
#196 |
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Yes... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:02 AM |
#198 |
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Calling fellow DUers murderers cause they've had an abortion is intolerant |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-13-09 01:08 AM |
#202 |
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This is what I stated. |
Why Syzygy |
Jun-13-09 01:29 AM |
#219 |
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If you can stream, I linked the NOW segment on anti-choice terror |
EFerrari |
Jun-13-09 01:40 AM |
#224 |
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Glad to see you be supporting the Heller decision in regards to the 2nd Amendment. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 02:12 AM |
#232 |
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Who did that and are they still here? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 01:45 AM |
#227 |
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I can't call them out and stay within DU guidelines |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-13-09 05:04 PM |
#265 |
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Tolerating misogyny is not a virtue. |
EFerrari |
Jun-13-09 01:12 AM |
#207 |
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The old misogyny charge. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 01:43 AM |
#226 |
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You bet. |
EFerrari |
Jun-13-09 01:45 AM |
#228 |
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It really gets annoying doesn't it? |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-13-09 01:50 AM |
#231 |
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I would think only if it doesn't fit properly, right? All those little private parts chafing... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-09 09:56 AM |
#247 |
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the old misogyny denial...... nt |
boston bean |
Jun-13-09 06:40 AM |
#241 |
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The old misogyny denial charge. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 09:01 AM |
#244 |
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Isn't the party platform a guideline for Democrats? Endorsement by the party is significant |
omega minimo |
Jun-13-09 02:26 PM |
#256 |
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So if the party platform doesn't include single payer health care and you disagree then banishment? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-13-09 02:58 PM |
#261 |
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Belligerent much? Sorry I got in the way of whoever you're fighting with |
omega minimo |
Jun-13-09 03:04 PM |
#263 |
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I just think it's silly to ban people who have a single disagreement with the party platform. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-14-09 12:03 PM |
#275 |
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Intolerance of dissent makes us look weak in our convicitions. |
Jester Messiah |
Jun-13-09 08:27 AM |
#242 |
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I would hope that you've answered your own question by introducing the word 'choice'... |
bridgit |
Jun-13-09 09:44 AM |
#246 |
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Because Skinner says so? |
Kaleva |
Jun-13-09 10:00 AM |
#250 |
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Could we also ask why fighting poverty is NOT the "accepted view"? |
bobbolink |
Jun-13-09 02:37 PM |
#259 |
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Same reason people who think more guns are the answer |
undeterred |
Jun-13-09 07:19 PM |
#268 |
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Don't you mean ANTI-CHOICE? n/t |
Boomerang Diddle |
Jun-13-09 07:27 PM |
#269 |
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Why? Is abortion a dirty word? n/t |
Gwendolyn |
Jun-13-09 08:00 PM |
#272 |