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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 11:54 PM
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179. Its all about money with this guy...
It seems like every other day there is some new tax to pay for all kinds of new government waste.

Well, Obama is definately not for "tax cuts."
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  -Obama defends DOMA in federal court. Says banning gay marriage is good for the federal budget. boston bean  Jun-12-09 09:19 AM   #0 
  - Fierce Advocate  kenny blankenship   Jun-12-09 09:22 AM   #1 
  - So.... Obama wrote that motion to dismiss?  redqueen   Jun-12-09 09:24 AM   #2 
  - What a weak obsfucation. Is that the best you've got?? nt  boston bean   Jun-12-09 09:26 AM   #4 
  - It's a question... the wording there implies it was, and I was curious.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 09:56 AM   #19 
     - Maybe I should have written "what a stupid question! " nt  boston bean   Jun-12-09 10:13 AM   #37 
     - Here's a simple request  subsuelo   Jun-12-09 12:20 PM   #124 
     - You were obfuscating, actually.  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 02:21 PM   #145 
  - Yes he did  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 09:30 AM   #7 
  - I thought someone at the DoJ might have written it, yeah.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 09:57 AM   #21 
     - "Respondeat superior"  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 10:01 AM   #25 
     - Understood...  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:06 AM   #29 
        - I didn't build my car but it is still mine  dsc   Jun-12-09 10:11 AM   #36 
     - Please stop being so cute  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:08 AM   #32 
     - That's not the way the Office of Solicitor General works  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 11:58 AM   #117 
     - It's only drama  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 10:25 AM   #46 
        - I'm not calling the issue itself drama.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:28 AM   #51 
        - Just the people who it affects.  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 10:55 AM   #95 
           - You can't call people 'drama'.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:59 AM   #98 
              - Yes, calling reactions "drama" is actually being dismissive of an issue.  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 02:29 PM   #146 
              - You love to parse words.  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 03:46 PM   #157 
                 - No, I just love words full stop.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 05:07 PM   #159 
                    - We understand.  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 05:21 PM   #162 
                       - Yep. I figured as much. Enjoy the slap-fighting. (nt)  redqueen   Jun-12-09 05:27 PM   #164 
                          - Keep up the innuendos. They go with your snark festival. nt  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 06:38 PM   #168 
        - Excellent -- +1  LostinVA   Jun-12-09 10:37 AM   #60 
        - Well, gee, my stepdaughter and her girlfriend are getting married this summer...  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 11:47 AM   #115 
        - Congrats to the newlyweds.  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 03:57 PM   #158 
           - I do understand the anger  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 07:20 PM   #169 
              - So because bush fired lawyers,  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 07:49 PM   #174 
                 - "you want the administration to support and aid continuation of DOMA?"  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 09:12 PM   #176 
                    - Sorry,  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 11:42 PM   #178 
                       - "obscene reasoning"  jberryhill   Jun-14-09 11:25 AM   #182 
        - +1  Bluebear   Jun-12-09 03:41 PM   #155 
  - Do you think Obama is in charge or not?  Bluenorthwest   Jun-12-09 09:46 AM   #15 
     - It's a very simple question.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 09:59 AM   #22 
     - Please read this carefully  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:11 AM   #35 
        - Can you remind me what your position was on the Bush DoJ prosecutor firings?  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 10:24 AM   #44 
        - Bush DoJ prosecutors were fired for refusing to prosecute politically motivated, weak cases.  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 02:41 PM   #147 
           - I've already answered that  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 07:28 PM   #171 
        - "or have someone read it to you"  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #66 
           - they get all pissy when you get in front of their daily outrage....  dionysus   Jun-12-09 12:07 PM   #119 
     - He's only responsible for the good things. When bad things happen,  QC   Jun-12-09 10:00 AM   #24 
     - LOL  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:03 AM   #27 
        - "... words into other people's mouths."  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 02:52 PM   #148 
     - Does the term "Saturday Night Massacre" ring any bells with you? /nt  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 10:36 AM   #57 
        - "Saturday Night Massacre" will be relevant on the day that there's an investigation of Obama.  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 02:55 PM   #149 
           - Uh, the relevance is..  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 07:22 PM   #170 
  - Delete. dup post  mnhtnbb   Jun-12-09 09:25 AM   #3 
  - OMG. Try changing the language to extending the right to vote to African Americans  mnhtnbb   Jun-12-09 09:26 AM   #5 
  - Yep here it would be in all it's bigoted glory  boston bean   Jun-12-09 09:50 AM   #17 
  - Jesse Helms nothing... this was Michael Steele's argument !!!!  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 03:00 PM   #150 
  - O...M...G! Fucking asshole bastards.  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 09:26 AM   #6 
  - Not sure - but don't they have to defend any law?  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 09:31 AM   #8 
  - Short answer: No.  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 09:34 AM   #9 
  - But surely this must be some kind of triple reverse Mr. Spock 300-dimensional chess strategy  QC   Jun-12-09 09:40 AM   #11 
     - won't be long before someone comes on and asks  boston bean   Jun-12-09 09:42 AM   #13 
        - Actually, I think the DOJ response is sickening  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 09:55 AM   #18 
           - No, they do not have to.  boston bean   Jun-12-09 10:09 AM   #33 
              - Bush, Clinton, and Reagan all opposed existing federal law in court n/t  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:36 AM   #56 
                 - But it's part of the chess game! Shut up and go look at some picture threads! I hear today's is  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #67 
                    - Is Bo in the garden with him? Are they eating ice cream? n/t  QC   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #70 
                    - They're splitting a cupcake. It has cute little sprinkles on it.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:40 AM   #71 
                       - Well, I certainly hope they aren't *pink* sprinkles! n/t  QC   Jun-12-09 10:49 AM   #87 
                          - They're black, like the tire treads left on millions of people.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:50 AM   #88 
                             - That's a relief. Wouldn't be good to be seen with a girly cupcake. n/t  QC   Jun-12-09 12:54 PM   #129 
                    - I thought today  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:40 AM   # 
  - No. They choose which cases to defend.  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 09:35 AM   #10 
     - So the DOJ mining case, torture pics, etc  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 09:46 AM   #14 
        - Sure. If they had to defend cases to the bitter end, they could never settle cases.  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 10:00 AM   #23 
        - That's not my legal question  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 10:07 AM   #30 
        - No, it's not better for a judge to decide. It's a waste of judicial resources...  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 10:17 AM   #40 
           - If you want the law to be respected  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 10:25 AM   #45 
              - The issue that's being confused here  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 10:28 AM   #49 
                 - That's the legal basis of my question  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 10:38 AM   #63 
                    - Well, there's that  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 11:45 AM   #113 
                    - I think you're falsely assuming that the DoJ must defend a case for a judge to hear it.  LooseWilly   Jun-12-09 03:16 PM   #153 
                       - I'm not assuming anything, hence the question marks  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 03:37 PM   #154 
                       - The criminal division and the Office of Solicitor General have two different functions  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 07:31 PM   #172 
        - You're talking here about a "settlement" of the constitutionality of an act of Congress  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 10:30 AM   #52 
           - I hope someone addresses the points you've raised. (nt)  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:36 AM   #58 
           - Jerry Brown is still AG of California despite not having defended prop 8  dsc   Jun-12-09 11:09 AM   #104 
              - Okay. Originally he thought he had to though, right?  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 11:19 AM   #107 
                 - they often do but this writ is particularly egregious  dsc   Jun-12-09 11:22 AM   #109 
                 - I'm not arguing that at all  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 11:31 AM   #111 
                 - Prop 8, after the vote, was a proposed amendment, and not an enacted one  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 11:30 AM   #110 
                    - that is baldly false  dsc   Jun-12-09 12:17 PM   #122 
                       - The challenge was to whether it was properly enacted....  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 12:24 PM   #125 
           - Unless you can point to a Constitutional provision or even a statutue...  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 10:56 AM   #96 
              - Apples and Oranges  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 11:42 AM   #112 
        - Correct  LostinVA   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #65 
  - The only interest Congress expressed with DOMA was its interest to discriminate...  JeffreyWilliamson   Jun-12-09 09:41 AM   #12 
  - Uh, pardon me, but that's not a rationalization. It's a question.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:02 AM   #26 
  - Okay, understood. As a snarky person myself I can appreciate it as a question...  JeffreyWilliamson   Jun-12-09 10:18 AM   #41 
     - +1  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 10:25 AM   #47 
     - I just can't wait till it's all settled and done with.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:35 AM   #55 
        - I can't wait until it's all over as well...  JeffreyWilliamson   Jun-12-09 10:41 AM   #75 
           - Heh, way to tell me I look like an ass  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:43 AM   #79 
              - The statement was an honest self-observation...  JeffreyWilliamson   Jun-12-09 10:57 AM   #97 
  - Throw in the pony and a chess set, and I think you've pretty much covered them all, Jeffrey  RufusTFirefly   Jun-12-09 10:38 AM   #62 
  - In his defense, he can't seem to remember what he promised  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:48 AM   #85 
  - You forgot the one where anyone who thinks this action by the DOJ is wrong  dflprincess   Jun-12-09 12:13 PM   #121 
  - Well, they are absolutely correct about saving money  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 09:49 AM   #16 
  - ditto on that! nt  Mari333   Jun-12-09 10:45 AM   #83 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Jun-12-09 09:56 AM   #20 
  - Well, I guess you folks didn't listen to what he said on the campaign trail  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:06 AM   #28 
  - +1 Seeing his exact words (and the 180 he made since getting elected) makes it so much worse. n/t  Statistical   Jun-12-09 10:21 AM   #43 
  - Americablog has updated with more portions of the document. It gets worse...  JeffreyWilliamson   Jun-12-09 10:08 AM   #31 
  - I feel like I did election night when Prop 8 passed. Like a kick in the stomach.  GodlessBiker   Jun-12-09 10:19 AM   #42 
  - "It flies right in the face of Loving vs. Virginia."  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:26 AM   #48 
  - McClurkin was no fluke.  Forkboy   Jun-12-09 10:09 AM   #34 
  - But it's just one song -- it's just a two minute prayer -- it's just . . . .  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:37 AM   #59 
     - ...a pattern.  Forkboy   Jun-12-09 10:38 AM   #61 
        - That's the word I was trying to think of  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:42 AM   #77 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-12-09 10:14 AM   #38 
  - Exactly which person in the administration do you wish to see "bleed"? /nt  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 10:33 AM   #54 
  - I roundly condemn this post and all like them that advocate violence as retribution  RufusTFirefly   Jun-12-09 10:40 AM   #73 
     - I'll take #3 for $200, Alex.  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:43 AM   #80 
  - This is disgusting.  Starry Messenger   Jun-12-09 10:15 AM   #39 
  - You're a good egg and a terrific ally  LostinVA   Jun-12-09 10:40 AM   #72 
     - .  Starry Messenger   Jun-12-09 10:51 AM   #89 
  - Obama is a BIGOT and a LIAR.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:28 AM   #50 
  - deleted  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:30 AM   #53 
  - Indefensible. nt  glitch   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #64 
  - you can trust that many DUers ARE defending this.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #69 
     - Where? (nt)  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:40 AM   #74 
     - Mirror -- look n/t  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:41 AM   #76 
        - and the threads in GD:P will pop up soon.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:42 AM   #78 
        - I thought that after the election  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:45 AM   #82 
        - Words -- read. (nt)  redqueen   Jun-12-09 10:43 AM   #81 
     - That doesn't make it defensible.  glitch   Jun-12-09 11:09 AM   #105 
     - Exactly.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 11:21 AM   #108 
     - ...attempting to defend this - and failing miserably!  Individualist   Jun-12-09 11:48 AM   #116 
     - no, thats crap. no one is defending the ruling. what people are rightly pissed about,  dionysus   Jun-12-09 12:11 PM   #120 
        - A little honesty.  Jakes Progress   Jun-12-09 03:43 PM   #156 
  - kick , outraged. nt  Mari333   Jun-12-09 10:39 AM   #68 
  - If they really want to "preserve scarce government resources"  magellan   Jun-12-09 10:45 AM   #84 
  - +1  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:48 AM   #86 
  - +2  Mari333   Jun-12-09 10:52 AM   #90 
  - +3  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:53 AM   #92 
  - +4  Starry Messenger   Jun-12-09 11:02 AM   #101 
  - +5  dflprincess   Jun-12-09 12:17 PM   #123 
  - +6  Libertyfirst   Jun-12-09 12:48 PM   #128 
  - +7  leftstreet   Jun-12-09 02:04 PM   #140 
  - +8  readmoreoften   Jun-12-09 02:18 PM   #142 
  - +9  chatnoir   Jun-12-09 05:23 PM   #163 
  - +1000  TheWatcher   Jun-12-09 09:27 PM   #177 
  - This wouldn't suprise me at all ...  Statistical   Jun-12-09 10:52 AM   #91 
  - What is amazing  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 10:53 AM   #93 
     - Any threat to Obama's infallibility here is quickly quashed.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 10:54 AM   #94 
        - What's even more amazing is  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 11:07 AM   #102 
           - double standards....gotta love 'em.  FLAprogressive   Jun-12-09 11:13 AM   #106 
           - If the brief attacked DOMA  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 11:46 AM   #114 
              - Really? Was Gerry Brown disbarred from opposing Prop H8?  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 01:19 PM   #133 
                 - Comments on Brown above in the thread....  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 01:24 PM   #134 
                 - Comments on Brown above in the thread  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 01:24 PM   #135 
                 - The fact remains  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 01:30 PM   #137 
                    - These were appeals,  sandnsea   Jun-12-09 02:10 PM   #141 
                       - Ah crap. I got sucked in by that in another thread.  redqueen   Jun-12-09 05:19 PM   #161 
                 - Better Update Your Understanding Of Jerry Brown  jberryhill   Jun-14-09 11:29 AM   #183 
  - Pony...weren't paying attention in the primaries...3d Vulcan chess, etc. ad nauseum. nt  Romulox   Jun-12-09 10:59 AM   #99 
  - k  Mari333   Jun-12-09 11:01 AM   #100 
  - You forgot "I trust and have faith in him" and "he's smarter than me"  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jun-12-09 07:36 PM   #173 
     - And "he's the smartest motherfucker in the room!"  QC   Jun-14-09 12:43 PM   #184 
  - Now batting for Rick Santorum -- Barack Obama  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 11:08 AM   #103 
  - please read an article that doesn't spin this  OKNancy   Jun-12-09 12:04 PM   #118 
  - this thread is all about pushing the spin, to gin up some outrage.  dionysus   Jun-12-09 12:41 PM   #126 
  - Sure, along with  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 03:15 PM   #152 
  - please read the brief itself  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 01:18 PM   #132 
     - +1 /nt  readmoreoften   Jun-12-09 02:20 PM   #143 
  - Obama has always opposed gay marriage. That is a fact. He  Libertyfirst   Jun-12-09 12:45 PM   #127 
  - Thing is some people thought he was lying about that, because he also had them convinced he was  boston bean   Jun-12-09 01:06 PM   #130 
  - He promised to work to repeal DOMA -- he lied  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 01:17 PM   #131 
     - The Office of Solicitor General Cannot "Repeal" A Damned Thing /nt  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 01:28 PM   #136 
        - I've got to give you credit  nichomachus   Jun-12-09 01:32 PM   #138 
           - And what would that "lost cause" be?  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 02:20 PM   #144 
              - All the things you mention seem like lost causes right about now  Bluebear   Jun-12-09 03:07 PM   #151 
                 - Based on very recent, and very rapid, trends, I disagree  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 05:43 PM   #165 
  - Holy fucking shit  Veruca Salt   Jun-12-09 02:01 PM   #139 
  - The brief also compared same sex marriage to incest, and the brief was written by an LDS  LostinVA   Jun-12-09 05:08 PM   #160 
     - That frikkin figures!  Veruca Salt   Jun-12-09 06:23 PM   #167 
  - "... in the absence of a new law, the government is duty-bound to enforce the laws of the land..."  ClarkUSA   Jun-12-09 05:49 PM   #166 
  - Laurence Tribe on the DOMA brief  ClarkUSA   Jun-12-09 08:17 PM   #175 
  - Its all about money with this guy...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-12-09 11:54 PM   #179 
  - Lead name on brief and assistant Atty. General hand picked.  bluedawg12   Jun-13-09 12:55 AM   #180 
  - Um, Obama is NOT defending DOMA. By law, the DoJ does NOT communicate w/Pres. Obama on cases.  ClarkUSA   Jun-13-09 08:34 AM   #181 
 

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