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55. Senator Richard Schweiker "the JFK assassination investigation was snuffed out before it even began"


Warren Commision Members expressed Doubt -- Ford changed final report
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/MinM/105

Friday, 1 March, 2002, 09:50 GMT
Revelations and gaps on Nixon tapes

In the same conversation, Nixon gave new fodder for conspiracy theorists who question whether Lee Harvey Oswald was the only shooter involved in the assassination of President John Kennedy.

Referring to the report by the Warren Commission, "it was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated," Nixon said. He did not elaborate why he questioned the report.

The tapes also record a conversation between President Nixon and former Treasury Secretary John Connally who was in the car with President Kennedy when he was killed.

It contains graphic details of the shooting.

"I was lying... down on (wife) Nellie's lap like this to shield her head on top of me and I had my eyes open and I heard that bullet hit his head ... I knew he was dead," Mr Connally said...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1848157.stm
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  -Teachable Moment? What Separates A Bad CT (Birthers) From A Healthy CT (JFK & Truthers) stopbush  Jun-11-09 01:13 AM   #0 
  - JFK & 9/11 Conspiracy Theories involve trying to understand a tragedy.  Eric J in MN   Jun-11-09 01:15 AM   #1 
  - That's a good answer. Care to comment further?  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:18 AM   #2 
  - All CTs are about the avoidance of a difficult truth. People don't like thinking that  Occam Bandage   Jun-11-09 01:27 AM   #5 
     - In one sense, a belief in the JFK & 911 CTs is harmless in that nobody  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:41 AM   #11 
     - The murder of JFK, and the 9/11 attacks, each involved more than one person....  Eric J in MN   Jun-11-09 01:43 AM   #12 
     - That's a belief that is not supported by the evidence in the JFK case  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:51 AM   #15 
     - I was 20 when Kennedy was assassinated. After his death,  JDPriestly   Jun-11-09 06:58 AM   #20 
     - I agree that there are conspiracies, and conspiracies to assassinate presidents  stopbush   Jun-11-09 10:30 AM   #51 
     - The House Committee on Assassinations disagrees  Recursion   Jun-11-09 08:55 AM   #31 
     - In the main, the HSCA affirmed the findings of the WCR and was ready to  stopbush   Jun-11-09 10:18 AM   #48 
     - Senator Richard Schweiker "the JFK assassination investigation was snuffed out before it even began"  MinM   Jun-11-09 10:38 AM   #55 
        - You realize that you're misquoting Nixon, don't you.  stopbush   Jun-11-09 10:44 AM   #56 
           - You mean the facts that read...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 10:52 AM   #64 
     - I was waiting for someone to bring up that "minor detail"...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:03 AM   #66 
     - Are you claiming there is no evidence that the JFK  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 10:48 AM   #62 
     - It's supported by a hell of a lot more facts than the Warren Commission Report is.  EOTE   Jun-11-09 11:18 AM   #73 
        - What absurdity would that be? Please explain.  stopbush   Jun-11-09 12:11 PM   #82 
           - How about claiming that an exit wound is in fact an entrance wound?  EOTE   Jun-11-09 03:48 PM   #105 
              - I don't know where you're getting your info, but it isn't good info.  stopbush   Jun-11-09 05:04 PM   #112 
                 - I find it rather odd that you'd request me to include cites for my claims  EOTE   Jun-12-09 10:44 AM   #118 
                 - This is sadly a typical CT conflation of events to create a new reality.  stopbush   Jun-12-09 03:31 PM   #122 
                    - "It doesn't matter one iota what the ER doctors and staff thought they saw when they were  Time for change   Jun-13-09 02:20 PM   #125 
                 - Here you go  Time for change   Jun-13-09 02:17 PM   #124 
     - #58 would apply to this post as well. nt  Occam Bandage   Jun-11-09 10:47 AM   #59 
     - CTs are attempts to look beyond official explanations for events when  JDPriestly   Jun-11-09 06:38 AM   #17 
        - I think our posts are just different spin on the same idea. nt  Occam Bandage   Jun-11-09 10:48 AM   #60 
  - I don't think any sort of irrational thinking is healthy.  Occam Bandage   Jun-11-09 01:21 AM   #3 
  - I like your answer too.  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:24 AM   #4 
  - Absolutely.  anigbrowl   Jun-11-09 01:27 AM   #6 
  - You missed one.  RC   Jun-11-09 06:48 AM   #19 
  - Compare Thom Hartmann to Limbaugh. Hartmann is so reasonable  JDPriestly   Jun-11-09 07:02 AM   #22 
  - +1...  SidDithers   Jun-11-09 08:22 AM   #28 
  - Very astute  konnichi wa   Jun-11-09 08:59 AM   #32 
  - Let's try not to forget: The "official" story of 9/11 *IS* a Conspiracy Theory.  TahitiNut   Jun-11-09 10:26 AM   #50 
  - That's true. The nomenclature, "conspiracy theory," isn't very good.  Occam Bandage   Jun-11-09 10:46 AM   #58 
  - Well, Conspiracy Theorists merely need to do some waterboarding to get legitimacy.  TahitiNut   Jun-11-09 10:48 AM   #61 
  - thumbs up ...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:06 AM   #68 
  - Nail, meet Head. eom  JuliantheApostate   Jun-11-09 01:52 PM   #92 
  - they both suck and can be dangerous although the wingnuts tend to be more openly violent  JI7   Jun-11-09 01:32 AM   #7 
  - I'm with you on the vaccine mythology.  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:35 AM   #8 
  - "This isn't meant as flamebait."  leftstreet   Jun-11-09 01:36 AM   #9 
  - Yes, I know that it's near impossible to have a discussion about CTs on DU  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:45 AM   #13 
  - And we are not IBTL  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:13 AM   #70 
  - Your post's title suggests political affiliation is what seperates a bad CT from a healthy one (nt)  Posteritatis   Jun-11-09 01:39 AM   #10 
  - That's true to some extent, but our "healthy" JFK CT belief is shared by most Rs as well.  stopbush   Jun-11-09 01:47 AM   #14 
  - Nothing.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 02:23 AM   #16 
  - Call me when an Oliver Stone fan starts killing people.  baldguy   Jun-11-09 06:40 AM   #18 
     - von Brunn was a Truther, you know that, right?  billyoc   Jun-11-09 07:42 AM   #24 
     - You're blind to the distinctions between people who have legitimate questions  baldguy   Jun-11-09 08:17 AM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-11-09 08:38 AM   #29 
        - Oh right, Cindy Sheehan = Adolf Hitler.  baldguy   Jun-11-09 09:02 AM   #34 
        - Whilst we're being civil to each other n' at...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:15 AM   #71 
     - Yeah? What "truth" was he all about?  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 10:53 AM   #65 
     - Why would this be relevant?  JackRiddler   Jun-11-09 02:44 PM   #99 
        - Um...that's my point.  baldguy   Jun-11-09 04:15 PM   #109 
           - Um... sure.  JackRiddler   Jun-11-09 04:35 PM   #110 
  - Some CTs are bad, ergo covert ops do not exist...  Junkdrawer   Jun-11-09 06:59 AM   #21 
  - No difference at all  NoPasaran   Jun-11-09 07:03 AM   #23 
  - See #43  baldguy   Jun-11-09 12:01 PM   #80 
  - Any "theory" that is not supported by evidence is a bad theory.  surrealAmerican   Jun-11-09 07:44 AM   #25 
  - And when the official story isn't supported by the evidence...?  baldguy   Jun-11-09 08:18 AM   #27 
     - Then it's just that: a "story".  surrealAmerican   Jun-11-09 08:53 AM   #30 
        - And when people rightly question that story  baldguy   Jun-11-09 09:14 AM   #37 
           - No. That happens when they formulate an alternative ...  surrealAmerican   Jun-11-09 09:24 AM   #39 
              - One of the major reasons the Bush Regime gave for the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam had WMDs.  baldguy   Jun-11-09 09:49 AM   #43 
                 - This example demonstrates the uselessness of the terminology.  JackRiddler   Jun-11-09 02:12 PM   #95 
                    - A conspiracy theorist is someone who has run afoul of TPTB  baldguy   Jun-11-09 03:38 PM   #102 
  - Well the few who think the WTC was blown down by explosives are harmless, mostly.  konnichi wa   Jun-11-09 09:01 AM   #33 
  - Except for the guy who shot up the museum yesterday.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 09:04 AM   #35 
  - Wot?  konnichi wa   Jun-11-09 09:06 AM   #36 
     - He was an Alex Jones-type.  baldguy   Jun-11-09 09:21 AM   #38 
     - Oh, okay...I just assumed he was a regular garden variety screwball.  konnichi wa   Jun-11-09 09:32 AM   #41 
        - I am.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 09:37 AM   #42 
           - Not YOU, silly boy!  konnichi wa   Jun-11-09 10:12 AM   #46 
              - Oh, oh!  billyoc   Jun-11-09 10:17 AM   #47 
     - von Brunn was a 9/11 Truther.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 09:32 AM   #40 
        - Glenn Beck says 9/11 truthers are destoying America  MinM   Jun-11-09 10:01 AM   #44 
        - Hey MinM...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 01:47 PM   #90 
        - And Adolf Hitler's religion was...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:10 AM   #69 
           - It doesn't say anything about other Catholics. Hitler was obsessed with Zionist conspiracies.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 11:31 AM   #76 
              - This is not true!  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:37 AM   #78 
                 - Hitler drove a green car, therefore everyone who drives a green car is the same as Hitler.  baldguy   Jun-11-09 12:00 PM   #79 
                 - JFK? No. 911? Absolutely.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 12:42 PM   #83 
                    - You live in a world of absolutes...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 01:01 PM   #85 
                       - Ridiculing Truthers for blaming 9/11 on Israel doesn't mean I live in a world of absolutes.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 01:18 PM   #86 
                          - Um.. DO you even know what you mean to say?  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 01:30 PM   #87 
                             - I defy you to find a Truther screed that doesn't involve Israel.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 01:34 PM   #88 
                                - Your posts do a fine job of that by inviting comment... record time  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 01:42 PM   #89 
                                   - I don't see anything about 9/11 on that page, did you send the wrong link?  billyoc   Jun-11-09 02:04 PM   #93 
                                      - Since you didn't visit the same site's 2008 archives...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 02:33 PM   #97 
                                         - From your link(did you read it?):  billyoc   Jun-11-09 02:45 PM   #100 
                                            - I not only read it, I LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE INTERVIEW  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 03:27 PM   #101 
                                               - You do a lot of yelling and wtf-ing for someone telling me to calm down so often.  billyoc   Jun-11-09 03:49 PM   #106 
                                                  - Yes, I sure do say, "WTF"  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 05:22 PM   #113 
  - few?  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:18 AM   #72 
  - Please provide a source for (I'm still waiting...)  Subdivisions   Jun-11-09 11:33 AM   #77 
     - You mean you haven't heard the wacko theories?  konnichi wa   Jun-11-09 05:46 PM   #115 
  - Motherfucking NARWHAL knows the truth  snooper2   Jun-11-09 10:04 AM   #45 
  - Far and away the most harmful and common 9/11 conspiracy theory is that Iraq was involved  Recursion   Jun-11-09 10:21 AM   #49 
  - You're absolutely right.  LeftishBrit   Jun-11-09 02:25 PM   #96 
  - OK  BeFree   Jun-11-09 10:30 AM   #52 
  - Given the connection to the 9/11 conspiracies  TheBigotBasher   Jun-11-09 10:33 AM   #53 
  - What I wonder is why people put so much faith in govt explanations  ecstatic   Jun-11-09 10:36 AM   #54 
  - It's normal to question any government explanation that is based on  stopbush   Jun-11-09 10:46 AM   #57 
     - That's where I believe you've wandered off the reservation...  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:21 AM   #74 
  - Ok, I thought CT was computerized tomography.  undeterred   Jun-11-09 10:49 AM   #63 
  - bwah  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 11:04 AM   #67 
  - What does it mean?  Swede   Jun-11-09 01:51 PM   #91 
     - Why, conspiracy theorist, Swede!  MrMickeysMom   Jun-11-09 05:32 PM   #114 
  - You really seem to be very uncomfortable that people believe in CTs.  EOTE   Jun-11-09 11:26 AM   #75 
  - I semi-tacitly believed the JFK CTs for a long time and read many of  stopbush   Jun-11-09 12:08 PM   #81 
     - I've read plenty of books supporting the WCR.  EOTE   Jun-11-09 03:40 PM   #103 
        - I disagree with your characterization of the WCR, but I appreciate  stopbush   Jun-11-09 03:47 PM   #104 
           - I can't tell you at the moment because the site those pics are on is blocked by my work firewall  EOTE   Jun-11-09 03:51 PM   #108 
              - Got it. You can check out a more-expansive take on the  stopbush   Jun-11-09 04:57 PM   #111 
                 - I reply at post #118. NT  EOTE   Jun-12-09 10:49 AM   #119 
  - Actually, the question is: What brings them together?  JackRiddler   Jun-11-09 12:50 PM   #84 
  - I've long given up on the idea that enough people give a fuck one way or the other...  Echo In Light   Jun-11-09 02:09 PM   #94 
  - No conspiracy theory is healthy.  alarimer   Jun-11-09 02:36 PM   #98 
  - Congratulations.  Kaleko   Jun-11-09 06:02 PM   #116 
     - David Ray Griffin MP3 Vancouver 9/11 Truth Society  Echo In Light   Jun-12-09 01:49 PM   #121 
  - The JFK assassination and the WTC attack actually happened.  endarkenment   Jun-11-09 03:50 PM   #107 
  - What are the "lots of problems with the official version" of the JFK assassination?  stopbush   Jun-11-09 09:24 PM   #117 
     - WC purpose was to cover up the truth about the assassination. Cover-up = LIE.  Octafish   Jun-12-09 11:14 AM   #120 
  - Interesting post...  LeftishBrit   Jun-13-09 01:04 PM   #123 
 

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