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Mon Jun-08-09 09:18 PM
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| 3. Because the Corporations on Wall Street and associated with War Profiteering Pentagon CONTROL the |
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Executive, Legislative and Judicial Branches. With regard to congress we have an corporate, right leaning duopoly. Two Parties both represent corporate welfare and never-ending military conflicts. What? Those bombs are not going to blow themselves up.  |
| -We have the Presidency, the House, the Senate so why does |
mmonk |
Jun-08-09 09:14 PM |
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Because a lot of Democrats are not progressive |
ThomCat |
Jun-08-09 09:15 PM |
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But can't we at least have a two party system? |
mmonk |
Jun-08-09 09:19 PM |
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We have a two party system. But not Dems and repukes. |
rhett o rick |
Jun-09-09 03:16 PM |
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Which is a way they rationalize the one party "corporatist" party that we have... |
cascadiance |
Jun-09-09 04:01 PM |
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"There ain't nothin' in the middle of the road but yellow stripes... |
villager |
Jun-08-09 09:18 PM |
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Because the Corporations on Wall Street and associated with War Profiteering Pentagon CONTROL the |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-08-09 09:18 PM |
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So why do we even bother? |
Mr. Ected |
Jun-08-09 09:20 PM |
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Because we need each other to build up our numbers and our strength. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-08-09 09:25 PM |
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To what end? To take on the corporations? |
Mr. Ected |
Jun-08-09 09:29 PM |
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"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees." |
scarletwoman |
Jun-08-09 09:39 PM |
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A nice house in the burbs, a plasma TV, enough money to be comfortable |
Mr. Ected |
Jun-08-09 09:47 PM |
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The number of herd animals who can attain these things is shrinking. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-08-09 09:58 PM |
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right f'ng on. |
inna |
Jun-08-09 10:26 PM |
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What Inna ^ said. nt |
glitch |
Jun-08-09 11:04 PM |
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"All sheep share a common destiny". |
Greyhound |
Jun-08-09 11:41 PM |
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I'm in... |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 05:48 AM |
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We shall trample the masters and run free! |
scarletwoman |
Jun-09-09 06:43 PM |
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For some reason the song "Sheep" by Pink Floyd is playing in my head... /nt |
Dragonfli |
Jun-09-09 09:56 PM |
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Your contempt for the people you claim to care about is so interesting. |
cali |
Jun-09-09 07:41 AM |
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It is some times hard to care about those that refuse to care about themselves. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jun-09-09 03:21 PM |
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I number myself among the herd animals -- it's not MY contempt, it's the truth about how we |
scarletwoman |
Jun-09-09 06:40 PM |
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. |
rhett o rick |
Jun-09-09 03:19 PM |
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nah, let's just watch teevee and be sheep! what's with the defeatist attitude. nt |
inna |
Jun-08-09 10:24 PM |
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+10! (and tons of respect.) :) nt |
inna |
Jun-08-09 10:20 PM |
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As usual you give the succinct correct answer |
Dragonfli |
Jun-08-09 10:30 PM |
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Right on and I'm with you, but the clock is ticking. |
Greyhound |
Jun-08-09 11:38 PM |
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Correct n/t |
H2O Man |
Jun-09-09 04:03 PM |
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That's the conclusion I am reaching after decades of interest in politics |
Bluebear |
Jun-08-09 09:25 PM |
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Because we ain't ready for reality. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jun-09-09 03:18 PM |
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Because Democratic politicians don't work for us, they work for the money people. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-08-09 09:20 PM |
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The maximum donation to the DNC is $30,400. |
Eric J in MN |
Jun-08-09 09:32 PM |
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But there are quite a few of us. Shouldn't we be represented? |
mmonk |
Jun-08-09 09:33 PM |
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We are nothing more than herd animals. Why should the Rulers concern themselves with us? |
scarletwoman |
Jun-08-09 09:42 PM |
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democracy is a passing fad: just vote who you're told for and don't dare think you're informed |
MisterP |
Jun-08-09 09:56 PM |
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You're damn right. Their lips are glued to the same asses the Republicans' are. |
salguine |
Jun-08-09 10:33 PM |
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Because all 535 of them are worried about their next meal. |
DURHAM D |
Jun-08-09 09:31 PM |
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+1 |
Bluebear |
Jun-08-09 09:33 PM |
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This is cynical and not true |
karynnj |
Jun-09-09 08:43 AM |
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... |
Cleita |
Jun-08-09 09:34 PM |
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When are the people here going to understand that just because |
kentuck |
Jun-08-09 09:34 PM |
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But if they gots a "D" on their sweater, it means they're on OUR team, right? |
PassingFair |
Jun-08-09 11:36 PM |
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and we are last on their priority list too. |
bdamomma |
Jun-09-09 07:53 AM |
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Three reasons. |
pnwmom |
Jun-08-09 09:35 PM |
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The Senate is the primary problem. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-08-09 09:42 PM |
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Yes, it sucks big time. |
mmonk |
Jun-09-09 12:09 AM |
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yes, it is and we can keep putting in a Dem President |
bdamomma |
Jun-09-09 07:56 AM |
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Yes, you are just dreaming -- or hallucinating is a better word for those delusions |
HamdenRice |
Jun-08-09 09:57 PM |
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That you actually believe you are progressive is what's so damn ironic. |
Greyhound |
Jun-08-09 11:44 PM |
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Maybe that's because you're not a progressive... you're a centrist? |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 05:56 AM |
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I guess the biggest New Deal economic package since the 30s is chopped liver |
HamdenRice |
Jun-09-09 05:59 AM |
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I presume you're referring to the stimulus package.... |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 06:25 AM |
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ROFLMAO -- So I have to prove my credentials to the central committee? |
HamdenRice |
Jun-09-09 06:41 AM |
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Hehe.. thanks for calling me comrade... though I doubt you really mean it. |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 07:37 AM |
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So you are confirming that, like Bush, you "make your own reality"? Is that your point? |
HamdenRice |
Jun-09-09 07:50 AM |
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The argument was never about whether or not Obama had passed anything "New Deal type" |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 02:29 PM |
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Can I blow the whistle here? |
DireStrike |
Jun-09-09 09:27 PM |
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Fair enough. I think the real issue, though, is that "progressive" is subjective. |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 11:00 PM |
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What have they won and delivered? |
Lorien |
Jun-09-09 06:06 PM |
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Democrat != Progressive. |
Statistical |
Jun-08-09 10:01 PM |
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Because we don't control the courts, the media or the schools; the GOP does. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jun-08-09 10:02 PM |
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The courts are very problematic. The gang of 14 insured screwed |
mmonk |
Jun-09-09 12:00 AM |
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Yup and they're filled with Federalit Society cultists. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jun-09-09 12:20 AM |
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Consider this theory: |
Dragonfli |
Jun-08-09 10:06 PM |
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Your theory is valid... |
glitch |
Jun-08-09 11:10 PM |
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Agreed, but it is a theory I've considered for ten years now |
Dragonfli |
Jun-08-09 11:47 PM |
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It sounds like a valid theory to keep in mind always... |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 06:32 AM |
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Thank you for your public service! :) nt |
glitch |
Jun-09-09 09:53 AM |
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Thank you for yours! n/t |
Dragonfli |
Jun-09-09 10:55 AM |
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Damn, but I like you. n/t |
Greyhound |
Jun-08-09 11:46 PM |
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Well, that makes two of us at least LOL n/t |
Dragonfli |
Jun-08-09 11:49 PM |
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"I don't know, say something like a "Leadership Council" |
leftstreet |
Jun-09-09 12:15 AM |
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Just a thought since "The Heritage Foundation" was taken, they would need a name right? n/t |
Dragonfli |
Jun-09-09 10:57 AM |
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Another kick for this "theory". n/t |
Greyhound |
Jun-09-09 09:05 PM |
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who's this "we" that you speak of? |
unblock |
Jun-08-09 10:27 PM |
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You got that right. The Republicans can run a dictatorship |
mmonk |
Jun-08-09 10:39 PM |
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because Impeachment Was Off The Table. |
omega minimo |
Jun-08-09 10:37 PM |
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Which fronts are those? We're doing at least as well as... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jun-08-09 10:47 PM |
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There are 40000 lobbyists in DC who work fulltime for their interests. They track legislation |
struggle4progress |
Jun-08-09 10:49 PM |
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How much will you chip in, personally, toward my costs of living while tracking legislation? |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 06:37 AM |
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So what fronts have we been losing ground -- are in worse position than in Nov 2008 |
onenote |
Jun-08-09 10:49 PM |
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War. Justice. Economy. Security. Respect. Representation. Education. |
Greyhound |
Jun-08-09 11:51 PM |
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non responsive |
onenote |
Jun-09-09 05:40 AM |
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Bush would make things worse no doubt. But I see us losing ground |
mmonk |
Jun-09-09 12:20 AM |
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Better than nothing... the new Mantra... get to know it. |
LooseWilly |
Jun-09-09 06:45 AM |
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DLC is anti-progressive |
Individualist |
Jun-08-09 11:12 PM |
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I feel the same way. Obama doesn't give a shit about the middle class or |
solstice |
Jun-08-09 11:14 PM |
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What stimulus check? I never got one from Obama either. |
roody |
Jun-08-09 11:37 PM |
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Maybe not losing ground, but certainly not gaining it. |
riverdeep |
Jun-08-09 11:20 PM |
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Democrats ≠ Progressives |
tkmorris |
Jun-08-09 11:50 PM |
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Expectations too high maybe? |
Kaleva |
Jun-09-09 12:07 AM |
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Because they spend much time giving hand jobs to the goons across the isle |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-09-09 06:08 AM |
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Why do you think we are losing ground? |
karynnj |
Jun-09-09 08:33 AM |
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The corporations have the Presidency, the House, the Senate. |
Vidar |
Jun-09-09 10:32 AM |
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Exactly! That's the truth. (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Jun-09-09 07:37 PM |
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chess |
bigtree |
Jun-09-09 10:59 AM |
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because they have even said, "you gotta make me." |
NuttyFluffers |
Jun-09-09 11:43 AM |
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Because... |
bvar22 |
Jun-09-09 12:19 PM |
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because it's really the oligarchy that has the presidency, the house and the senate... |
dysfunctional press |
Jun-09-09 02:31 PM |
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That is the CORRECT answer |
mitchum |
Jun-09-09 02:51 PM |
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Thank you. That is exactly right. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-09-09 07:00 PM |
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6 in the second place |
Dragonfli |
Jun-09-09 09:47 PM |
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When one's own day comes, one may create revolution. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-09-09 09:57 PM |
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. |
Dragonfli |
Jun-09-09 10:03 PM |
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Because CYA is the dominant philosophy of politicians. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-09-09 02:42 PM |
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patience waiting for generals to catch up only X months FDR-like Lincoln-like compromises n/t |
MisterP |
Jun-09-09 02:54 PM |
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it's not just you |
Lorien |
Jun-09-09 06:05 PM |
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Congress consists of many corrupt leaders. nt |
Psychic Consortium |
Jun-09-09 07:40 PM |
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Ah, the old "things aren't moving fast enough so we must be going in reverse" argrument. Go |
ProSense |
Jun-09-09 10:09 PM |
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