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Mon Jun-08-09 04:24 PM
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Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 04:24 PM by paulsby
AA isn't the issue in this case. the issue is disparate impact theory and racial preferences.
i support AA. i do not support the city of new haven in this case.
it's a classic disparate impact case used to punish the firefighters.
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| -What is your prediction on the SCOTUS decision re New Haven Firefighters? |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 03:47 PM |
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They'll probably rule against the City, in favor of Ricci. |
brendan120678 |
Jun-08-09 03:59 PM |
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That is the best I can hope for, IMO, also. |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 04:02 PM |
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That's what I'm thinking. |
Dr. Strange |
Jun-08-09 04:05 PM |
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i agree |
paulsby |
Jun-08-09 04:24 PM |
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Didn't Vote |
jdlh8894 |
Jun-08-09 04:10 PM |
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Well, I LIVE in New Haven so I am directly affected. |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 04:17 PM |
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Yep - a written, multi-choice test should not have been used. |
brendan120678 |
Jun-08-09 04:23 PM |
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the problem with oral exams |
paulsby |
Jun-08-09 04:27 PM |
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Multiple choice is the only kind of exam |
customerserviceguy |
Jun-08-09 04:38 PM |
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merit is a more important |
paulsby |
Jun-08-09 04:28 PM |
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Please, in fire fighting, how is "merit" determined by a multiple choice test? |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 04:35 PM |
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There are certain standards that need to be used |
customerserviceguy |
Jun-08-09 04:41 PM |
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people don't like these tests |
paulsby |
Jun-08-09 11:02 PM |
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that you could ask that question suggests you don't understand the role of a firefighter |
paulsby |
Jun-08-09 04:43 PM |
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Putting aside the test itself, because I agree with you that it was a huge mistake, |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 05:02 PM |
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but you are looking for the wrong result |
paulsby |
Jun-08-09 11:00 PM |
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Since the test is under seal we don't know what the questions were. |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 07:37 AM |
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i;'ve taken tons of these tests |
paulsby |
Jun-09-09 04:24 PM |
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karen torre on the firefighter test |
paulsby |
Jun-09-09 04:41 PM |
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So how would you measure leadership skills? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-08-09 07:29 PM |
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You seem to be a fire fighter. How would you assess those leadership skills? |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 07:39 PM |
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Here's what I had to do to make Captain, although I would change it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-08-09 08:07 PM |
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We don't know what the test asks since it is under seal by the court. |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 07:44 AM |
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Thanks for the thoughtful and considerate conversation. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-09-09 02:01 PM |
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That's my understanding on what the city did. In case you didn't notice, |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 02:35 PM |
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Even the Volunteer Department I know of are heavily politically influenced. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-09-09 04:18 PM |
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I somewhat, but not entirely, downplayed the political situation. |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 06:48 PM |
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i draw a strict distinction |
paulsby |
Jun-09-09 04:44 PM |
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Everyone would EXPECT anyone taking the promotion exam to be well versed in Fire Science. |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 06:56 PM |
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it doesn't have the be "the best" |
paulsby |
Jun-09-09 07:11 PM |
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In the first place, I am not sure that the NHFD "approved" the test. |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 07:27 PM |
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they ADMINISTERED the test |
paulsby |
Jun-09-09 07:34 PM |
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I don't know and you don't know who "graded" the tests. |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 07:39 PM |
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i have plenty of knowledge thanks |
paulsby |
Jun-09-09 07:51 PM |
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That's why I voted other |
customerserviceguy |
Jun-08-09 04:36 PM |
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Well, muliple choice tests are not always the best test of ability... |
CTyankee |
Jun-08-09 06:46 PM |
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I know, I know |
customerserviceguy |
Jun-08-09 10:09 PM |
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What if the test that they would have used was not a good measure of that? |
usregimechange |
Jun-08-09 06:48 PM |
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5-4 against the city |
AlexanderProgressive |
Jun-08-09 07:14 PM |
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Whatever favors white folks is what the ruling will be. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-08-09 07:25 PM |
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In this case that may be the right decision. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-08-09 07:32 PM |
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Nothing quite as satisfying as being the fox guarding the henhouse, is there? |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-08-09 07:41 PM |
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Well I am a fox. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-08-09 08:25 PM |
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The city has a right to control its own hiring decisions. |
boppers |
Jun-08-09 08:11 PM |
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Equality of opportunity doesn't mean |
cloudbase |
Jun-08-09 08:22 PM |
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"We can offer you the opportunity to sail this yacht... |
CTyankee |
Jun-09-09 09:53 AM |
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5-4 in favor of Ricci. |
11 Bravo |
Jun-09-09 09:03 AM |
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