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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 04:02 PM
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2. That is the best I can hope for, IMO, also.
There are some people here in New Haven who think that the Fire Dept. is their own white ethnic group's fiefdom. For such a liberal city, that faction is a little scary...
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  -What is your prediction on the SCOTUS decision re New Haven Firefighters? CTyankee  Jun-08-09 03:47 PM   #0 
  - They'll probably rule against the City, in favor of Ricci.  brendan120678   Jun-08-09 03:59 PM   #1 
  - That is the best I can hope for, IMO, also.  CTyankee   Jun-08-09 04:02 PM   #2 
  - That's what I'm thinking.  Dr. Strange   Jun-08-09 04:05 PM   #3 
  - i agree  paulsby   Jun-08-09 04:24 PM   #7 
  - Didn't Vote  jdlh8894   Jun-08-09 04:10 PM   #4 
  - Well, I LIVE in New Haven so I am directly affected.  CTyankee   Jun-08-09 04:17 PM   #5 
  - Yep - a written, multi-choice test should not have been used.  brendan120678   Jun-08-09 04:23 PM   #6 
  - the problem with oral exams  paulsby   Jun-08-09 04:27 PM   #8 
  - Multiple choice is the only kind of exam  customerserviceguy   Jun-08-09 04:38 PM   #12 
  - merit is a more important  paulsby   Jun-08-09 04:28 PM   #9 
     - Please, in fire fighting, how is "merit" determined by a multiple choice test?  CTyankee   Jun-08-09 04:35 PM   #10 
        - There are certain standards that need to be used  customerserviceguy   Jun-08-09 04:41 PM   #13 
        - people don't like these tests  paulsby   Jun-08-09 11:02 PM   #30 
        - that you could ask that question suggests you don't understand the role of a firefighter  paulsby   Jun-08-09 04:43 PM   #14 
        - Putting aside the test itself, because I agree with you that it was a huge mistake,  CTyankee   Jun-08-09 05:02 PM   #15 
           - but you are looking for the wrong result  paulsby   Jun-08-09 11:00 PM   #29 
              - Since the test is under seal we don't know what the questions were.  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 07:37 AM   #31 
                 - i;'ve taken tons of these tests  paulsby   Jun-09-09 04:24 PM   #38 
                    - karen torre on the firefighter test  paulsby   Jun-09-09 04:41 PM   #39 
        - So how would you measure leadership skills?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-08-09 07:29 PM   #20 
           - You seem to be a fire fighter. How would you assess those leadership skills?  CTyankee   Jun-08-09 07:39 PM   #22 
              - Here's what I had to do to make Captain, although I would change it.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-08-09 08:07 PM   #24 
                 - We don't know what the test asks since it is under seal by the court.  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 07:44 AM   #32 
                    - Thanks for the thoughtful and considerate conversation.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-09-09 02:01 PM   #35 
                       - That's my understanding on what the city did. In case you didn't notice,  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 02:35 PM   #36 
                          - Even the Volunteer Department I know of are heavily politically influenced.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-09-09 04:18 PM   #37 
                          - I somewhat, but not entirely, downplayed the political situation.  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 06:48 PM   #41 
                          - i draw a strict distinction  paulsby   Jun-09-09 04:44 PM   #40 
                             - Everyone would EXPECT anyone taking the promotion exam to be well versed in Fire Science.  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 06:56 PM   #42 
                                - it doesn't have the be "the best"  paulsby   Jun-09-09 07:11 PM   #43 
                                   - In the first place, I am not sure that the NHFD "approved" the test.  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 07:27 PM   #44 
                                      - they ADMINISTERED the test  paulsby   Jun-09-09 07:34 PM   #45 
                                         - I don't know and you don't know who "graded" the tests.  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 07:39 PM   #46 
                                            - i have plenty of knowledge thanks  paulsby   Jun-09-09 07:51 PM   #47 
  - That's why I voted other  customerserviceguy   Jun-08-09 04:36 PM   #11 
  - Well, muliple choice tests are not always the best test of ability...  CTyankee   Jun-08-09 06:46 PM   #16 
     - I know, I know  customerserviceguy   Jun-08-09 10:09 PM   #28 
  - What if the test that they would have used was not a good measure of that?  usregimechange   Jun-08-09 06:48 PM   #17 
  - 5-4 against the city  AlexanderProgressive   Jun-08-09 07:14 PM   #18 
  - Whatever favors white folks is what the ruling will be.  BlooInBloo   Jun-08-09 07:25 PM   #19 
  - In this case that may be the right decision.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-08-09 07:32 PM   #21 
     - Nothing quite as satisfying as being the fox guarding the henhouse, is there?  BlooInBloo   Jun-08-09 07:41 PM   #23 
        - Well I am a fox.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-08-09 08:25 PM   #27 
  - The city has a right to control its own hiring decisions.  boppers   Jun-08-09 08:11 PM   #25 
  - Equality of opportunity doesn't mean  cloudbase   Jun-08-09 08:22 PM   #26 
  - "We can offer you the opportunity to sail this yacht...  CTyankee   Jun-09-09 09:53 AM   #34 
  - 5-4 in favor of Ricci.  11 Bravo   Jun-09-09 09:03 AM   #33 

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