| 71. thanks. I personally cannot eat a non human animal |
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but I dont begrudge others wishing to. 
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| -Tikkun: Animal-based Diets are Madness and Insanity |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 07:35 PM |
#0 |
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EET MOR CHIKN |
MineralMan |
Jun-06-09 07:37 PM |
#1 |
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Mmmmm... CHIKN |
The Doctor. |
Jun-06-09 09:47 PM |
#69 |
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I am SO in early on this one. |
flvegan |
Jun-06-09 07:38 PM |
#2 |
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move over rover |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 07:39 PM |
#3 |
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...aaaand this went EXACTLY as predicted. |
flvegan |
Jun-06-09 08:47 PM |
#47 |
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I'm not a vegan but I agree with you |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-07-09 06:47 AM |
#114 |
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Except homo-sapiens have not been driving cars for their entire existence |
Threedifferentones |
Jun-07-09 10:50 AM |
#127 |
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Percisely. |
kenfrequed |
Jun-07-09 11:07 AM |
#131 |
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Meat equals big brains? Or is it potatoes and onions? |
Karmadillo |
Jun-07-09 11:12 AM |
#133 |
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The snark about PETA would have been better left out, but I'm in a snarky mood, I guess |
Threedifferentones |
Jun-07-09 11:42 AM |
#134 |
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The article seems very relevant to your point that meat equals big brains. |
Karmadillo |
Jun-07-09 11:54 AM |
#136 |
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You are right of course |
Threedifferentones |
Jun-07-09 12:07 PM |
#137 |
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I don't disagree |
Karmadillo |
Jun-08-09 09:12 PM |
#202 |
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You're supposed to tell me when these get posted. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-09 10:31 PM |
#79 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-06-09 11:06 PM |
#84 |
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We can't all have a degree in nutrition from Google University. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-09 11:07 PM |
#85 |
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There should be an award for that level of snark. |
flvegan |
Jun-06-09 11:10 PM |
#86 |
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I've been told I'm on a roll tonight. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-09 11:13 PM |
#87 |
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It could be the "sister" award to a DUzy;. It could be a "Snarky." |
Raster |
Jun-07-09 06:51 AM |
#115 |
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Snarky+Duzy= |
The Doctor. |
Jun-07-09 03:12 PM |
#141 |
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SnarkyDU! |
Raster |
Jun-07-09 04:30 PM |
#151 |
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Ok, calm down there Jar-Jar... |
The Doctor. |
Jun-08-09 09:19 PM |
#203 |
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I *HATED* that character. |
Raster |
Jun-09-09 03:17 PM |
#206 |
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Sorry... just saying "SnarkyDU" made me think of him> |
The Doctor. |
Jun-09-09 05:03 PM |
#207 |
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Smoking is insanity |
undeterred |
Jun-06-09 07:39 PM |
#4 |
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I did both. nt |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 07:57 PM |
#15 |
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Good for you. |
undeterred |
Jun-06-09 07:58 PM |
#17 |
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Have you ever had to stop smoking? |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 08:56 PM |
#51 |
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No, I've never smoked a cigarette. |
undeterred |
Jun-06-09 09:20 PM |
#66 |
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Bullshit |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-06-09 10:08 PM |
#73 |
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Ah, bullshit. |
undeterred |
Jun-07-09 10:14 AM |
#123 |
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Nicotine addiction is one of the hardest |
Kajsa |
Jun-07-09 11:51 AM |
#135 |
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I have a friend who has tried every means possible |
undeterred |
Jun-07-09 03:17 PM |
#142 |
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You're right. |
Kajsa |
Jun-07-09 10:50 PM |
#186 |
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Reaches for pack.... |
proteus_lives |
Jun-08-09 12:31 AM |
#191 |
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I'm prepped, extra buttery |
tammywammy |
Jun-06-09 07:40 PM |
#5 |
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On a more serious note: |
MineralMan |
Jun-06-09 07:40 PM |
#6 |
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I think we all agree in theory, as we eat our bacon cheeseburgers |
Motown_Johnny |
Jun-06-09 07:42 PM |
#7 |
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Ok... this is funny to me as I just had my first bacon cheeseburger in months. |
The Doctor. |
Jun-06-09 10:00 PM |
#72 |
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Happy Birthday (belated) |
Motown_Johnny |
Jun-07-09 02:00 PM |
#140 |
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I'm willing to tolerate a lot of things...being told what to eat is not one of them. n/t |
Mythsaje |
Jun-06-09 07:43 PM |
#8 |
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I luv this line... |
uppityperson |
Jun-06-09 07:48 PM |
#9 |
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I've got a compelling reason... |
Gman |
Jun-06-09 07:49 PM |
#10 |
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That may all be true....but animals taste good. |
MercutioATC |
Jun-06-09 07:51 PM |
#11 |
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Yes they do |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 07:53 PM |
#14 |
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When people are painting, do you walk by and tell them they missed a spot and then laugh |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-07-09 12:48 AM |
#96 |
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bwaa haa never heard that one before. |
Quantess |
Jun-07-09 12:50 AM |
#97 |
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I'll tell you what madness and sheer insanity |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 07:52 PM |
#12 |
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ZOMG - We've got the same dinner! (My post is downthread) |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:40 PM |
#41 |
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I loves me some dead flesh. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-06-09 07:53 PM |
#13 |
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Well, since this was written for a Jewish publication, |
MineralMan |
Jun-06-09 07:58 PM |
#16 |
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Is the article about imposing a diet on people? It seems, rather, |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 08:03 PM |
#21 |
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No, the goal is the imposition of a diet. |
MineralMan |
Jun-06-09 08:08 PM |
#25 |
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Does discussion of the adverse consequences of animal based diets and agriculture |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 08:16 PM |
#29 |
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Humans are capable of changing their behavior based on reason. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 09:19 PM |
#64 |
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Why wouldn't the land currently being used to grow plant food for |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 09:49 PM |
#70 |
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You didn't answer my question. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 10:24 PM |
#77 |
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Did you ask a question? You stated an opinion, sure. |
yewberry |
Jun-07-09 01:22 AM |
#102 |
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Just because you haven't bothered to research a topic doesn't mean that other people haven't already |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:28 AM |
#110 |
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inefficiency of energy in food production |
Mendocino |
Jun-07-09 11:05 AM |
#130 |
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"Coercion?" |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:13 AM |
#107 |
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Hey there genius, didn't |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 07:59 PM |
#18 |
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Slight increase, actually. |
Buzz Clik |
Jun-06-09 08:05 PM |
#23 |
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No lifestyle is sustainable. N/t |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 08:08 PM |
#24 |
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LOL! For you and I, but not necessarily for the species. |
Buzz Clik |
Jun-06-09 08:13 PM |
#27 |
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Cockroaches eat everything. n/t |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 08:40 PM |
#40 |
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Then I guess we'd better eat the cockroaches n/t |
krispos42 |
Jun-07-09 10:16 PM |
#180 |
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The question is |
bbinacan |
Jun-08-09 06:47 PM |
#200 |
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Feed them to chickens. |
krispos42 |
Jun-09-09 01:02 AM |
#205 |
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Global cooling? Steak certainly has sharpened your intellect. |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 08:26 PM |
#33 |
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Pretty good response |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 08:37 PM |
#37 |
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Global cooling? |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-06-09 10:09 PM |
#74 |
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For someone so sure of themselves you certainly are ignorant. Genius. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 08:29 PM |
#172 |
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Uh.. no... |
sendero |
Jun-06-09 08:01 PM |
#19 |
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Yep n/t |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 08:38 PM |
#38 |
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I am basically a vegetarian out of choice.. but the human species are omnivores by virtue |
Peacetrain |
Jun-06-09 08:02 PM |
#20 |
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Im a vegan |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 08:20 PM |
#32 |
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Karmadillo, where ya hiding? n/t |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 08:04 PM |
#22 |
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The human being is omnivorous. We also require B12. |
aquart |
Jun-06-09 08:09 PM |
#26 |
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this isnt daisies |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 08:15 PM |
#28 |
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MMMMM! I loves me some meatless lasagna. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-06-09 08:19 PM |
#31 |
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Do you even know what an omnivorous diet would mean in the wild? |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:40 AM |
#111 |
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It wouldn't include grains that's for sure. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 08:11 AM |
#121 |
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Right that's exactly my point. Bringing our ancestors into this is silly |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 04:01 PM |
#144 |
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One of the evolutionary leaps that Cromagnon man made was to convert to a less carnivorous diet. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 05:32 PM |
#155 |
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That's some bad National Geographic channel science you have there. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 05:56 PM |
#158 |
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Don't blame me, blame the History Channel. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 06:07 PM |
#161 |
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Please show me where I said that they were eating dairy products |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 06:22 PM |
#164 |
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"beholden to a way of eating like they are to a religion" |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 08:15 PM |
#167 |
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Also, this isn't about health or nutrition. It's about the environment. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 10:20 PM |
#181 |
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Obviously you didn't read my comment about being a vegetarian for 10 years. |
AllieB |
Jun-08-09 05:43 AM |
#196 |
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I did read it. I didn't think it was the least bit relevant. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-08-09 06:42 AM |
#199 |
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I'm allergic to soy, wheat, and grains. |
AllieB |
Jun-06-09 08:17 PM |
#30 |
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I think you are saying the problem is cheap processed foods, not meat consumption |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-09 12:38 AM |
#93 |
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That's exactly what I'm saying. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 08:06 AM |
#120 |
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"Most vegetarians...?" |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 08:27 PM |
#171 |
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Yes, there is a compelling reason: |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 08:28 PM |
#34 |
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In what way is it "totally fucking ridiculous"? |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 08:29 PM |
#35 |
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Because it's completely impossible to implement, for one thing. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 08:40 PM |
#42 |
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Just let it go at "totally fucking ridiculous". Unserious proposals don't merit serious responses. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:42 PM |
#45 |
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Well in that case, here's a somewhat ridiculous response: |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 08:49 PM |
#49 |
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Now you're getting the hang of this! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:52 PM |
#50 |
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Why do you think it's an unserious proposal? |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 08:58 PM |
#54 |
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Susan Boyle. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:59 PM |
#55 |
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This might help |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 09:19 PM |
#65 |
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To many Americans are childisly, vainly selfish to do the adult thing. |
keep_it_real |
Jun-06-09 08:32 PM |
#36 |
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And I thank you |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:41 PM |
#43 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-06-09 08:42 PM |
#44 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-06-09 09:05 PM |
#57 |
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I just look at my biological family. |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 08:47 PM |
#48 |
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The French eat tons of meat and dairy and have the lowest rate of heart disease |
AllieB |
Jun-06-09 09:09 PM |
#59 |
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thanks. I personally cannot eat a non human animal |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 09:57 PM |
#71 |
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Does that mean you only eat humans? |
Synicus Maximus |
Jun-06-09 10:31 PM |
#78 |
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hah thats weird on so many levels lol nt |
Mari333 |
Jun-06-09 10:34 PM |
#80 |
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That's because all of the French are Secret Vegans. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 11:50 PM |
#89 |
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The "french paradox" is BS that has pretty much been debunked IMO. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:01 AM |
#104 |
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How do you explain that the French have the highest longevity next to the Japanese? |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 07:58 AM |
#119 |
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There are so many other cultural factors. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 04:06 PM |
#145 |
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That's only part of the equation. Their diet is the bigger part. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 06:03 PM |
#159 |
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...or shorter working hours, longer vacations etc... |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 10:22 PM |
#182 |
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French eat more meat. Here are a couple of studies that disprove your hypothesis. |
AllieB |
Jun-08-09 05:54 AM |
#198 |
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Bingo |
kenfrequed |
Jun-07-09 10:56 AM |
#129 |
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Check out the PBS Now segment this week. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 11:08 AM |
#132 |
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It doesn't really make any sense to use the French as an example, |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 04:08 PM |
#146 |
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And they eat tons of innards-kidney, brains, tripe etc. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 06:08 PM |
#162 |
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I'm not talking about anecdotal evidence... |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 10:24 PM |
#184 |
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the study doesn't include game meat and innards. |
AllieB |
Jun-08-09 05:47 AM |
#197 |
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Not "selfish"...we just draw the line in different places. |
MercutioATC |
Jun-06-09 09:07 PM |
#58 |
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Well, I would draw the line between humans and vaguely sentient animals. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 09:12 PM |
#61 |
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Fair enough, neither would I...but I admit it's an arbitrary line. |
MercutioATC |
Jun-06-09 10:22 PM |
#76 |
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Don't assume that everyone's position is as irrational as the average meat-eater's. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 05:36 PM |
#157 |
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A vegetarian will kill a plant, but not an animal. |
MercutioATC |
Jun-07-09 07:17 PM |
#166 |
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So if you stick a fork into both a dog and a piece of broccoli... |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 08:20 PM |
#168 |
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You're splitting hairs. Nothing dies if you pick fruit off a tree or a vine. |
pink-o |
Jun-07-09 08:38 PM |
#174 |
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Some of us don't have a choice because of food intolerances. |
AllieB |
Jun-06-09 09:13 PM |
#62 |
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Do you consume live animal flesh? I'm not sure that is more mature, but hey |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-09 12:39 AM |
#94 |
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My med-rare ribeye with crumbled bacon and bleu cheese is almost done.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:38 PM |
#39 |
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Now I'm hungry again |
bbinacan |
Jun-06-09 08:46 PM |
#46 |
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Since you state vegan diets can "prevent, alleviate and sometimes reverse" |
chicago legal pro |
Jun-06-09 08:56 PM |
#52 |
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Of course. Their bourgeois moral sneering has the side-effect.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 08:58 PM |
#53 |
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probably old age ! |
UndertheOcean |
Jun-06-09 09:02 PM |
#56 |
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I hesitate to argue with a legal pro, especially one from Chicago, but it would seem |
Karmadillo |
Jun-06-09 09:11 PM |
#60 |
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Do you want us to hide the fact that we tend to live longer, healthier lives |
yewberry |
Jun-06-09 09:17 PM |
#63 |
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Every vegan I have ever met has been fat |
chicago legal pro |
Jun-06-09 11:41 PM |
#88 |
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If you're ever in Florida, look me up. |
flvegan |
Jun-06-09 11:59 PM |
#90 |
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I know dozens of vegans IRL. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-07-09 12:02 AM |
#91 |
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Of the veg/vegans I know |
Mendocino |
Jun-07-09 11:08 PM |
#188 |
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How...believable. |
yewberry |
Jun-07-09 12:28 AM |
#92 |
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In this field you can find a study to prove any point you want to make |
chicago legal pro |
Jun-07-09 05:14 PM |
#152 |
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Seamless transition |
yewberry |
Jun-07-09 09:04 PM |
#175 |
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I will certainly ask your permission about how to give opinions |
chicago legal pro |
Jun-07-09 10:02 PM |
#179 |
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Right, that's exactly what I said. |
yewberry |
Jun-07-09 10:49 PM |
#185 |
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Every vegan I have ever met has been slender |
Lorien |
Jun-07-09 04:15 PM |
#148 |
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Wait, I can't keep it straight. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 05:25 PM |
#154 |
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All posters do not speak for all other posters |
chicago legal pro |
Jun-07-09 06:40 PM |
#165 |
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And all chicago lawyers I've met are child-molesting satanists. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 08:23 PM |
#169 |
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If you checked I responded to a number of posters |
chicago legal pro |
Jun-07-09 10:00 PM |
#178 |
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Car crashes, due to fainting, due to lack of proper nutrition. n/t |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jun-06-09 09:42 PM |
#67 |
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I'm going to suggest that certain folks making certain allegations |
flvegan |
Jun-07-09 12:53 AM |
#98 |
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You can't possibly get enough nutrition without eating meat. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:17 AM |
#108 |
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Really? |
flvegan |
Jun-07-09 02:45 AM |
#112 |
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Yes, I read it on DU. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:55 AM |
#113 |
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Terminal self-righteousness. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-07-09 10:25 AM |
#125 |
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Or maybe our blood pressure is artificially high |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 05:34 PM |
#156 |
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Should we also stop eating salmon? It's brainfood. |
muntrv |
Jun-06-09 09:47 PM |
#68 |
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Farmed salmon, yes |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-06-09 10:11 PM |
#75 |
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I tried eating vegetarian and found that I had no energy. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-06-09 10:34 PM |
#81 |
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But hey - if you pop enough pills, you can be just as healthy as someone who eats food. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-06-09 10:36 PM |
#82 |
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Hmm, popping a pill created in a laboratory, or... |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:23 AM |
#109 |
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Of course you can get enough b-12 without beef products, that''s just silly. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-09 10:43 PM |
#83 |
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No one "needs" to eat beef, not even to get their B-12. That is absurd. |
Quantess |
Jun-07-09 12:56 AM |
#99 |
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I tried Brewer's yeast. It tastes absolutely awful, and its texture |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-09 01:54 AM |
#193 |
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Brewers Yeast has no texture at all. However, I agree it tastes bad. |
Quantess |
Jun-08-09 02:03 AM |
#194 |
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pitbull subthread here. And shopping carts. And breast feeding. Get them here... |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-09 12:43 AM |
#95 |
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Honestly though |
shellgame26 |
Jun-07-09 01:09 AM |
#100 |
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Only if you eat a lot of prepared convenience food, and that's expensive on any diet. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-07-09 01:12 AM |
#101 |
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Speaking of subsidies... |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 02:05 AM |
#105 |
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And a lot of those "grass-fed" animals the foodies go on about are leased federal land. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-07-09 02:13 AM |
#106 |
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I'm a fish-eater myself |
shellgame26 |
Jun-07-09 07:16 AM |
#117 |
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Eating vegan, carni, omni, etc. can be very inexpensive |
LostinVA |
Jun-07-09 07:48 AM |
#118 |
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I could fucking care less what anyone eats (as long as they eat enough...and it's not me) |
mitchum |
Jun-07-09 01:56 AM |
#103 |
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I don't really care what people eat/drink... |
rasputin1952 |
Jun-07-09 07:10 AM |
#116 |
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To those who've written inane responses on this thread. |
Karmadillo |
Jun-07-09 10:11 AM |
#122 |
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The internet is serious business. |
AngryAmish |
Jun-07-09 10:17 AM |
#124 |
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I suggest that if you wish to convince people that |
MineralMan |
Jun-07-09 03:27 PM |
#143 |
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In the interest of the environment |
Taitertots |
Jun-07-09 10:41 AM |
#126 |
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I don't eat meat, |
Mendocino |
Jun-07-09 01:40 PM |
#138 |
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Why do the meat eaters always try to turn this into a purity test? |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-07-09 11:56 PM |
#190 |
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I'm pro-choice on meat |
slackmaster |
Jun-07-09 10:55 AM |
#128 |
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Yeah, yeah. . .we should all suck rocks and eat grass. |
Suji to Seoul |
Jun-07-09 01:47 PM |
#139 |
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You should read the DU rules |
Lorien |
Jun-07-09 04:17 PM |
#149 |
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sarcasm. . .relax. |
Suji to Seoul |
Jun-07-09 11:36 PM |
#189 |
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LOL THEODORE HUSTINGS n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 05:22 PM |
#153 |
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More and more of my friends are going vegetarian or vegan |
Lorien |
Jun-07-09 04:12 PM |
#147 |
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A vegetarian/ nearly vegan friend of mine |
Lorien |
Jun-07-09 04:23 PM |
#150 |
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I was a vegetarian and vegan for 10 years. |
AllieB |
Jun-07-09 06:11 PM |
#163 |
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At the very least, cut you meat intake by half... |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-07-09 06:06 PM |
#160 |
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I've had no choice but to do that, due to my changing middle-aged metabolism |
slackmaster |
Jun-08-09 04:27 AM |
#195 |
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grains are responsible for millions of diagnoses of inflammatory diseases |
cbc5g |
Jun-07-09 08:25 PM |
#170 |
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Mmm grains. |
superduperfarleft |
Jun-07-09 08:31 PM |
#173 |
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I avoid grains; they are slave food |
mitchum |
Jun-07-09 10:56 PM |
#187 |
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For Every Animal You Don't Eat -- |
smalll |
Jun-07-09 09:39 PM |
#176 |
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How old are you - 12? |
Beaverhausen |
Jun-07-09 10:23 PM |
#183 |
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Yay! We haven't had a veggie thread since late last week! |
KamaAina |
Jun-07-09 09:55 PM |
#177 |
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As if deforestation of rainforests and jungles weren't enough to wreak havok on monkey's lives: |
Quantess |
Jun-08-09 01:21 AM |
#192 |
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Global warming is a bunch of crap |
Retired AF Dem |
Jun-08-09 07:46 PM |
#201 |
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kick |
Eric J in MN |
Jun-08-09 09:25 PM |
#204 |