seafan
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Fri Jun-05-09 01:12 PM
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| 25. Blue Dogs and ConservaDems: 'Public option for health care? FU, little people.' |
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Blue Dogs Demand Tight Constraints on Any Public Health Plan Option, June 4, 2009 Conservative House Democrats set strict conditions Thursday for any government-run insurance plan Congress creates as part of a health care overhaul, ruling out support for a plan that resembles Medicare — the option favored by many liberals.
The lines drawn by the Blue Dog Coalition, if adhered to by lawmakers crafting the health overhaul, would result in a government-run plan that works much like private insurance plans.
..... Medical bills led to two-thirds of bankruptcies in 2007, study finds, June 4, 2009 Senator Max Baucus (D-Montana) Tells Single-Payer Advocates No, June 3, 2009 Digby: Until we neuter the Blue Dogs, it will be nearly impossible to enact liberal legislation. , February 12, 2009 Rachel Maddow: Evan Bayh and his "ConservaDem" coalition, March 19, 2009 Evan Bayh: From Possible Obama VP to Backstabber, March 26, 2009 Blue Dogs/ConservaDems: (One of) Your moment(s) of truth: Obama to close offshore tax havens., May 4, 2009 Blue Dogs and ConservaDems, get out of our way, We The People are coming.
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Blue Dogs Demand Tight Constraints on Any Public Health Plan Option |
babylonsister |
Jun-05-09 12:16 PM |
#0 |

Blue Dogs are worse than Republicans.... |
FLAprogressive |
Jun-05-09 12:24 PM |
#1 |
 
"Blue Dogs" sounds like something they did. nt |
Snotcicles |
Jun-06-09 09:41 AM |
#52 |

What in hell is wrong with them? |
wryter2000 |
Jun-05-09 12:26 PM |
#2 |
 
They have their Cadillac quality health plan that our tax dollars pay for, so the |
Cleita |
Jun-05-09 12:34 PM |
#11 |
 
All the campaign money they get is suffocating them, starving their brains of precious oxygen. n/t |
DRoseDARs |
Jun-06-09 03:50 AM |
#50 |

If they can't stop it at least they can cripple it. |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-05-09 12:26 PM |
#3 |

Actually, I'm okay with negotiated prices, the trigger is a no-go |
sandnsea |
Jun-05-09 12:30 PM |
#4 |

*That's* where the outrage should be directed. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jun-05-09 12:30 PM |
#5 |

May they rot in the Hell of their own making. |
Cleita |
Jun-05-09 12:30 PM |
#6 |

Not To Put Too Fine A Point On It, Ma'am, This Is Utter Bullshit |
The Magistrate |
Jun-05-09 12:31 PM |
#7 |

8 friggin' years and $6 trillion dollars debt... |
kentuck |
Jun-05-09 12:32 PM |
#8 |

they want to make sure the public option sucks n/t |
Enrique |
Jun-05-09 12:32 PM |
#9 |

Call these assholes out. I want them quaking. |
dorkulon |
Jun-05-09 12:33 PM |
#10 |

Shouldn't we start calling them "Red Dogs" |
sutz12 |
Jun-05-09 12:35 PM |
#12 |
 
Is "Conservative Democrats" an oxymoron? |
omega minimo |
Jun-06-09 02:23 PM |
#63 |

Looks like the blue dogs are going to stab a second Democratic president in the back |
WeDidIt |
Jun-05-09 12:37 PM |
#13 |

With "Democrats" like this, WHO needs Republicans? |
Triana |
Jun-05-09 12:37 PM |
#14 |
 
Exactly. |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-05-09 12:42 PM |
#20 |

This is why the REAL Democratic Position should be Single Payer |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-05-09 12:38 PM |
#15 |
 
I think this negotiation tactic would result in a non-starter |
Cant trust em |
Jun-05-09 12:57 PM |
#24 |
  
And if this ends up being RomneyCare or any sort of corporate controlled "public" option |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-06-09 03:30 AM |
#48 |
 
+1 |
Dappleganger |
Jun-06-09 09:47 AM |
#54 |
 
Amen....n/t |
Hepburn |
Jun-06-09 10:25 AM |
#57 |

And some people wonder why full single-payer isn't being seriously considered |
Cant trust em |
Jun-05-09 12:39 PM |
#16 |
 
Exactly. |
redqueen |
Jun-05-09 12:49 PM |
#21 |

There's a poster here who has boldly inserted a painting of a blue dog in his sig line. |
Occulus |
Jun-05-09 12:39 PM |
#17 |
 
Not sure about him |
kctim |
Jun-05-09 01:27 PM |
#28 |
  
And the Democratic Party can't win without us. We've seen the results |
Greyhound |
Jun-05-09 01:44 PM |
#33 |
 
Very true |
kctim |
Jun-05-09 01:53 PM |
#35 |
 
That was my point. And don't leave out that you guys crippled Jimmy Carter, |
Greyhound |
Jun-05-09 02:19 PM |
#36 |
 
You would rather we vote for somebody who does not represent us? |
kctim |
Jun-05-09 02:56 PM |
#37 |
 
You wanna explain to us why you think the public option should be limited? |
tkmorris |
Jun-05-09 03:09 PM |
#38 |
  
Yes, I am happy with their stance on this |
kctim |
Jun-05-09 03:36 PM |
#39 |
   
"Be fair to private insurers"? |
tkmorris |
Jun-05-09 05:38 PM |
#41 |
  
Yes, be fair |
kctim |
Jun-05-09 05:50 PM |
#42 |
  
Fair enough |
tkmorris |
Jun-05-09 06:15 PM |
#46 |
  
Belated Welcome to DU! |
Strong Atheist |
Jun-08-09 09:14 PM |
#74 |
  
He gets a thrill out of killing sick people n/t |
eridani |
Jun-06-09 03:32 AM |
#49 |
 
We have a national liberal party, it's called the Democratic Party. |
Greyhound |
Jun-05-09 03:37 PM |
#40 |
  
I am only speaking for myself and those I know who believe as I do |
kctim |
Jun-08-09 12:26 PM |
#70 |
 
Well considering you seem more aligned with the Republican party |
Raineyb |
Jun-08-09 02:17 PM |
#72 |
 
More aligned with the Republican Party? |
kctim |
Jun-08-09 03:12 PM |
#73 |
 
That same poster had a pic captioned "Al Gore debates Ross Perot over NAFTA..." |
Romulox |
Jun-05-09 01:42 PM |
#32 |

Blue Dogger lied? I'm shocked! |
Kingofalldems |
Jun-05-09 01:49 PM |
#34 |

We need to target the blue dogs especially |
supernova |
Jun-05-09 12:40 PM |
#18 |

Blue Dogs are the reason not to get too excited about 60 Dems in the Senate. |
elocs |
Jun-05-09 12:41 PM |
#19 |
 
Yep. People talk a lot of smack about the DLC... |
redqueen |
Jun-05-09 12:50 PM |
#22 |

Blue Dog in the House; DLC is in the Senate |
Zodiak |
Jun-05-09 01:16 PM |
#26 |
 
There are Blue Dogs in the Senate. |
redqueen |
Jun-05-09 01:34 PM |
#29 |

They're for the most part one in the same....save for social issues. |
FLAprogressive |
Jun-06-09 01:44 PM |
#60 |

The Blue Dogs have a website. The members are ... |
Bozita |
Jun-05-09 12:52 PM |
#23 |

Blue Dogs and ConservaDems: 'Public option for health care? FU, little people.' |
seafan |
Jun-05-09 01:12 PM |
#25 |

The Blue Dogs "set strict conditions"?!?!?!?!?! |
ljm2002 |
Jun-05-09 01:27 PM |
#27 |
 
Their support provides the vote's margin of victory. |
tritsofme |
Jun-05-09 05:54 PM |
#44 |

Gosh, you don't say... |
ljm2002 |
Jun-05-09 06:38 PM |
#47 |

K & R - guess it's time to send my Blue Dog rep an ultimatum. |
Raksha |
Jun-05-09 01:39 PM |
#30 |

Blue Dogs continue to be at the beck and call of their corporate masters |
neverforget |
Jun-05-09 01:41 PM |
#31 |

These guys are trying to KILL YOU. |
Karenina |
Jun-05-09 05:52 PM |
#43 |

Blue dog = corrupt ideologue. Nothing more, nothing less |
depakid |
Jun-05-09 05:58 PM |
#45 |

It seems to me our greatest enemy sometimes is within. |
mmonk |
Jun-06-09 09:10 AM |
#51 |

"how a public option is allowed to compete"...that's backwards...totally bassackwards. |
Triana |
Jun-06-09 09:43 AM |
#53 |
 
Not Idiots, Just Purchased - They only sound idiotic because their "views" are indefensible n/t |
Dragonfli |
Jun-06-09 10:08 AM |
#56 |

You're absolutely right, of course. Insufferable either way. GRRR! n/t |
Triana |
Jun-06-09 10:27 AM |
#58 |

Grrr! is Right! Peddling influence should be against the law! - Oh wait - GRRRRRRRRR!!! |
Dragonfli |
Jun-06-09 10:52 AM |
#59 |

Any so-called "reform" that is suitable to these people will be WORSE than passing nothing. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Jun-06-09 10:05 AM |
#55 |

How about tight nooses for blue dogs? |
Vidar |
Jun-06-09 02:21 PM |
#61 |

Red Dogs... nt |
tsuki |
Jun-06-09 02:23 PM |
#62 |

We need to FIRE them. |
Joanne98 |
Jun-06-09 02:25 PM |
#64 |
 
Good idea. Pink slip the Blue dawgs. |
glinda |
Jun-06-09 09:50 PM |
#65 |

The Blue Dogs are getting to be a pain worse than Neocons! |
lib2DaBone |
Jun-06-09 09:57 PM |
#66 |

When the Blue Dogs Return Every Stinking Dollar They Get From the Healthcare Insurance Industry... |
Blackhatjack |
Jun-06-09 09:57 PM |
#67 |
 
We need 50 Senate votes for a public option. Forget bi-partisanship |
Better Believe It |
Jun-07-09 10:17 PM |
#68 |

Blue Dogs need to be put down......(figuratively, of course) |
marmar |
Jun-07-09 10:19 PM |
#69 |

Blue dogshit. That's what we're headed for. Better nothing than a bad plan. |
chaska |
Jun-08-09 01:13 PM |
#71 |