LoZoccolo
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Thu Jun-04-09 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 16. I am arguing against single-payer, not universal health care. n/t |
| -I'm almost sure Republicans are going to attack us from the left, and here's how you can help them. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 12:46 AM |
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Well, the Democrats did it to them. 'Shaved off some voters' |
leftstreet |
Jun-04-09 12:56 AM |
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Right on... |
NYC_SKP |
Jun-04-09 12:57 AM |
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lol. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-04-09 01:00 AM |
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Really, we should all just shut the fuck up.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 01:02 AM |
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Actually, this time, maybe you should. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:07 AM |
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By your reasoning, we should privatize Social Security |
leftstreet |
Jun-04-09 01:09 AM |
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And you're saying that we should try to convince people to choose not to have a choice. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:13 AM |
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People don't have to 'choose' which Fire Department to call, right? |
leftstreet |
Jun-04-09 01:16 AM |
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No, they don't, do they. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:17 AM |
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Its fucking insurance, like unemployment insurance. Why do they need a choice!?!? |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 02:02 AM |
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"I can envision a day when you will have to show proof of insurance at the job interview". |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 01:14 AM |
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I am arguing against single-payer, not universal health care. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:16 AM |
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So you are for mandated private insurance? |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 01:21 AM |
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Yes, that is exactly what I stand for. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:23 AM |
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Then answer my question. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 01:26 AM |
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Read my last post again, this time allowing for sarcasm. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:28 AM |
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No, you answer the question.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 01:32 AM |
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No, I'm not. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:40 AM |
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Explain how it is a "false choice". |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 01:42 AM |
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Because you say it's either single-payer or this malignant proof-of-insurance thing. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:45 AM |
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That was Hilary's malignant idea.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 04:59 AM |
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I'm glad you brought that up, because Hillary is the president now. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 09:18 AM |
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That wasn't fifteen years ago.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 10:02 AM |
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Where did you get it from? |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-05-09 05:44 AM |
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For one thing, Obama's calling for an exception for those who can't afford |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-09 02:45 AM |
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Have you ever tried to apply for assistance of any sort? |
Fumesucker |
Jun-04-09 05:04 AM |
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You are incorrect about Medicare, even the wealthy can receive it. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-09 04:13 PM |
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I don't understand what you're saying |
zeos3 |
Jun-04-09 02:36 AM |
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Simple. Retaining private insurance retains all the bureaucratic bullshit |
eridani |
Jun-04-09 02:59 AM |
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And if a "status quo moderate" wanted to stifle the left, what desperate tactic could they use? |
Umbral |
Jun-04-09 01:04 AM |
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They'd probably attack you from the right while posing to care |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 02:04 AM |
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LOL! Not The Straw!!!11 |
EFerrari |
Jun-04-09 01:04 AM |
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Nice post, Liam |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-04-09 01:06 AM |
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Uh? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-04-09 01:09 AM |
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Cool story, bro. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:11 AM |
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Oh great, a /b/tard |
Chulanowa |
Jun-04-09 01:49 AM |
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lol now I don't feel so bad about my one line response to this thread |
DireStrike |
Jun-06-09 12:19 AM |
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wooooh... |
girl gone mad |
Jun-04-09 01:12 AM |
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The fact is we do desperately need single payer Universal Health Care for ALL-The insurance |
LaPera |
Jun-04-09 01:14 AM |
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I am arguing against single-payer, not universal health care. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:16 AM |
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Well, I'm NOT, pay attention! |
LaPera |
Jun-04-09 01:25 AM |
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You're not what? n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:26 AM |
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You're "arguing against single payer"? What the fuck? |
LaPera |
Jun-04-09 01:36 AM |
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Go tell mom. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:40 AM |
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Very ignorant response to YOUR argument Zippy.... |
LaPera |
Jun-04-09 01:43 AM |
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When they can no longer defend their lock-setepping, smarming, apologist, compromise or die |
TheWatcher |
Jun-06-09 12:12 AM |
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Mandate private insurance IS NOT universal health care |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 02:05 AM |
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*Yawn* |
TheWatcher |
Jun-04-09 01:33 AM |
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If the Republicans "attack" from the "Left"... |
anaxarchos |
Jun-04-09 01:36 AM |
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No, I mean they will be a fake left... |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:44 AM |
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So if the Repubs offer single payer, you think it'll just be a campaign promise? |
leftstreet |
Jun-04-09 01:47 AM |
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They're not going to offer single-payer. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:49 AM |
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Good for them. |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 02:06 AM |
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If the Republicans attack "from the left," then maybe we'll actually get some leftist policy. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-04-09 01:38 AM |
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2000 called, they want their argument back. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:41 AM |
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snark: for those embarassing occasions when you lack a substantive response. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-04-09 01:51 AM |
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Right, because the example of eight years of Bush* with an assist from Nader isn't substantive. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:58 AM |
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Did Nader eat your cat? |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 02:10 AM |
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non-seq: for those embarassing moments when you don't know what the hell the topic is. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-04-09 02:41 AM |
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My argument is perfectly sequitered. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 09:26 AM |
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a very cleverly disguised anti-nader thread. |
tomp |
Jun-04-09 06:04 AM |
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"I SEE NO REASON WHY THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PRIVATE OPTION ALONGSIDE A PUBLIC OPTION" |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 01:47 AM |
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For one, the domain of coverage will become an endless political football and wedge issue. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 01:54 AM |
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"the government could kill you if they wanted to" |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 01:59 AM |
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I have to go to bed, but I have some things to say that might make you take that more seriously. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 02:05 AM |
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Ah fuck me... |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 02:08 AM |
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Correct, but they ARE already doing it |
zeos3 |
Jun-04-09 02:46 AM |
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I have never been asked about my drug or alcohol abuse. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-04-09 09:28 AM |
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I doubt it varies much by state |
zeos3 |
Jun-04-09 09:30 PM |
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62% of bankruptcies are health related -- 78% of them had insurance! |
Oregone |
Jun-04-09 11:23 AM |
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Agreed! eom |
zeos3 |
Jun-04-09 09:31 PM |
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Off to the Greatest Page with you! n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-09 02:44 AM |
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Yeah, WTF good would a spine do the Democrats now anyhow? |
nosmokes |
Jun-04-09 03:42 AM |
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i'd like to rec this post |
barbtries |
Jun-04-09 05:44 AM |
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as if that's what the democratic party wants. |
tomp |
Jun-04-09 06:23 AM |
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I'm going to quote from Howard Zinn about a different topic but that is relevant to this discussion. |
Selatius |
Jun-04-09 04:11 AM |
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"Suck it up, people. You're going to get screwed and LIKE it, damn you." |
Mythsaje |
Jun-04-09 05:06 AM |
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Those who promote the need for Insurance Cos to profit |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-04-09 10:25 AM |
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The republicans would never do that. Your post is ridiculous. Sorry. |
DireStrike |
Jun-06-09 12:17 AM |
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