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Response to Reply #65
144. The USSC decided this very issue not too long ago.
And determined that yes, it is covered by free speech. What exactly are you trying to prove?
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  -Amazon sells another video game where you "play" sexual abuser ccharles000  May-29-09 02:16 PM   #0 
  - And the amount of gamers who will actually play it?  YOY   May-29-09 02:21 PM   #1 
  - you mean before or after people make a big deal outa it  iamthebandfanman   May-29-09 03:01 PM   #14 
     - Before or after the freakout...it doesn't matter. Besides, It won't be easy to get....  YOY   May-29-09 07:53 PM   #206 
        - Nobody on this thread read the product description, Yoy.  Occulus   May-29-09 08:47 PM   #218 
           - Even I did. I assumed it to be like those awful hentai games with specific kinks...  YOY   May-29-09 09:01 PM   #220 
              - I hope to never actually see any hentai.  Occulus   May-29-09 09:04 PM   #223 
                 - All that I have seen has been purely accidental and never for more than a second.  YOY   May-30-09 12:47 AM   #248 
  - Oh, Jesus Christ.  Mythsaje   May-29-09 02:22 PM   #2 
  - There are some sick, sick people out there.  redqueen   May-29-09 02:23 PM   #3 
  - Sounds like a training game for future  MineralMan   May-29-09 02:25 PM   #4 
  - You assume children are the target market?  YOY   May-29-09 02:28 PM   #6 
     - I also enjoy first person shoot  Politicalboi   May-29-09 06:29 PM   #194 
        - Niche marketing to freaks.  YOY   May-29-09 08:01 PM   #207 
  - Lets play devil's advocate  Kurska   May-29-09 02:27 PM   #5 
  - Are there games where you plot and carry out the murder  redqueen   May-29-09 02:39 PM   #9 
  - IF you mean kill your wife/girlfriend yes, and if you mean have sex with and then kill yes  Kurska   May-29-09 03:23 PM   #28 
     - Gross.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:26 PM   #30 
     - I have a freind that tried to elimnate every NPC in a game called Elderscrolls 3: morrowind  Kurska   May-29-09 03:34 PM   #36 
     - Once again I must point out...  redqueen   May-29-09 03:37 PM   #40 
        - I wish Kurska would answer my questions. nt  Mari333   May-29-09 03:39 PM   #43 
           - I did and yes I would support it.  Kurska   May-29-09 03:39 PM   #44 
              - would you draw the line at the sexual abuse of small children in games? nt  Mari333   May-29-09 03:40 PM   #47 
                 - Don't know why you keep asking the same question twicwe, refer to my other post.  Kurska   May-29-09 08:34 PM   #216 
     - Actually, Fable is more of a "sandbox" game.  Occulus   May-29-09 09:03 PM   #221 
     - would you support a game made that was called Fantasy Castration  Mari333   May-29-09 03:29 PM   #33 
     - Yes I would. I see no reason why It's any of my business what other people play.  Kurska   May-29-09 03:38 PM   #41 
        - I meant women doing it. castrating men in a video game. nt  Mari333   May-29-09 03:39 PM   #45 
           - Yes, it protected by the bloody first amendment.  Kurska   May-29-09 03:42 PM   #50 
              - geez just asking. how about sexual abuse of small children in a game?  Mari333   May-29-09 03:44 PM   #54 
              - Sounds like the game our military is already playing.  L0oniX   May-29-09 08:04 PM   #209 
              - Freedom of speech is NON NEGOTIABLE, what don't you get about that?  Kurska   May-29-09 08:33 PM   #215 
                 - that you don't understand how insane that is  hfojvt   May-29-09 09:20 PM   #226 
                    - You're not allowed to say anything you want factually, but you are fictionally.  Kurska   May-29-09 09:35 PM   #230 
                       - oh there have been limits on fiction as well  hfojvt   May-29-09 10:20 PM   #234 
                          - I'm aware the supreme court hasn't always jumped to the aid of "Obscene material"  Kurska   May-30-09 12:57 AM   #250 
                          - Unfortunately they did rule on this.  Seldona   May-30-09 04:03 AM   #278 
              - However, it is the business of cultural mores...  LanternWaste   May-29-09 05:56 PM   #181 
                 - If the dvd was part of an installation at an uber-hip gallery, people would say it was brilliant.  Gwendolyn   May-30-09 01:02 PM   #282 
     - Don't forget GTA  Clintonista2   May-30-09 01:02 AM   #251 
        - Yeah but mention GTA and most people find their knees jerked right over their heads n/t  Kurska   May-30-09 01:11 AM   #254 
  - yes.. its a simple question  morgan2   May-29-09 02:42 PM   #12 
  - rape is a life sentence for many people  Mari333   May-29-09 03:06 PM   #18 
  - this level of ignorance is staggering.  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:06 PM   #75 
  - you think drug trafficking is worse then rape?  Mari333   May-29-09 03:05 PM   #17 
  - I think they are both bad and liable to ruin someone's life.  Kurska   May-29-09 03:40 PM   #48 
  - I think it's stupid to compare the two.  armyowalgreens   May-29-09 09:05 PM   #225 
  - yes lets play devils advocate  Mari333   May-29-09 03:09 PM   #19 
  - You're confusing support for the game with support for free speech.  Forkboy   May-29-09 03:26 PM   #31 
     - I am not against making the games  Mari333   May-29-09 03:28 PM   #32 
     - Ok, thanks.  Forkboy   May-29-09 03:45 PM   #56 
        - The thoughts in people's heads in misogynistic/bigoted culture do hurt people, every day  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:13 PM   #81 
           - So what's the answer? How do we prempt thought itself?  Forkboy   May-29-09 05:03 PM   #145 
              - "Is that the path we want to go down?"  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:14 PM   #149 
                 - Quit trying to be the world's thought police.  Kurska   May-29-09 09:31 PM   #229 
                    - No one cares if you don't care. Misogyny kills. Your willful ignorance is dangerous & irresponsible  omega minimo   May-29-09 10:30 PM   #235 
                       - Men AND women have rights that can't just be curtailed because you thinks it's a quick social fix.  Kurska   May-30-09 01:08 AM   #252 
                          - "People have just as much a right to intake fiction that is misogynist as they do literature that"  omega minimo   May-30-09 01:50 AM   #263 
                             - Sexism is evil, but you aren't going to beat it by becoming the world's moral police.  Kurska   May-30-09 01:57 AM   #268 
                                - Well I never said that and the sexist apologists ARE perpetuating the "evil"  omega minimo   May-30-09 02:39 AM   #273 
                                   - What is your meaning then?  Kurska   May-30-09 02:44 AM   #275 
                                   - She refuses to answer these questions because she can't.  Forkboy   May-30-09 03:05 AM   #277 
                                   - Try asking questions first, instead of projections and insults. I don't answer on demand after that  omega minimo   May-30-09 08:04 PM   #284 
                                   - oh ooops, can't see your bullshit any more!!  omega minimo   May-30-09 02:52 AM   #276 
     - Since enablers of this misogynistic toxic "game" know that never in a million years will the table  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:10 PM   #80 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-29-09 04:04 PM   #73 
  - I'd like to hear your answer for those questions.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:06 PM   #76 
     - No you wouldn't. Neither would the poster who's playing BS by pretending not to have answers to that  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:15 PM   #82 
        - I wouldn't?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:16 PM   #83 
           - No, you're only interested in playing games.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:21 PM   #87 
              - Why won't you answer the question?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:24 PM   #92 
              - Nice try. Why won't you take a hint.  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:27 PM   #96 
              - I have in a roundabout way... let me put it blunly for you:  redqueen   May-29-09 04:28 PM   #98 
              - So then you'd also be against a video game where you play a murderer?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:30 PM   #102 
              - Depends on the type of murder.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:30 PM   #103 
              - No, you wouldn't.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:32 PM   #105 
                 - I know he is but what are you?  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:34 PM   #107 
                 - Oh, that's right. You're the one with the psychic powers.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:36 PM   #111 
                    - you can badger people but you can't make them talk to you. in fact, it's less likely!!  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:38 PM   #113 
                       - Badger people? All you've done is badgered people.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:40 PM   #115 
                          - Every time you badger, it is you who avoid conversation. Don't be surprised.  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:46 PM   #123 
                             - Yet I'm particpating in the question, while you're avoiding it.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:27 PM   #156 
                                - Look. Your reputation precedes you. You don't want discussion. I already answered. Your bait sucks.  omega minimo   May-29-09 10:42 PM   #237 
                 - I wouldn't? Be against a game with murder?  redqueen   May-29-09 04:43 PM   #120 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   May-29-09 04:47 PM   #124 
                    - No.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:27 PM   #157 
                       - No, it's cause I didn't know about it.  redqueen   May-29-09 05:33 PM   #162 
                          - Riiiiight.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:38 PM   #165 
                             - What? It's not a red herring,  redqueen   May-29-09 05:42 PM   #168 
              - Rape is a specific hate crime against women.  PassingFair   May-29-09 11:32 PM   #239 
                 - Men get raped too and are often silent or stigmatized or laughed at if they come forward  EndersDame   May-30-09 02:38 AM   #272 
                    - Unless you are already in prison, a man's chances of getting raped...  PassingFair   May-30-09 12:32 PM   #280 
                       - I think that the number of men that get raped is alot higher  EndersDame   May-31-09 12:27 AM   #291 
              - Like I said, that level of ignorance is staggering. They do need some education and  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:33 PM   #106 
                 - CSI? Hell, how about ads for blue jeans?  redqueen   May-29-09 04:40 PM   #116 
                    - You're complaining about video games, network TV shows, and blue jean commercials.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:43 PM   #117 
                    - I didn't say anything about network TV shows. Please do try harder.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:44 PM   #121 
                    - CSI is a network television show.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:29 PM   #158 
                       - Yes... OM mentioned that, not me.  redqueen   May-29-09 05:36 PM   #163 
                          - OM brought it up, you agreed with him, brought up blue jean commercials.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:42 PM   #167 
                             - I brought up another example.  redqueen   May-29-09 05:47 PM   #170 
                    - You don't understand how the imagery works, do you?  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:49 PM   #128 
                       - No, I do.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:32 PM   #160 
                          - Yes, you don't  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:49 PM   #172 
                             - I understand your argument, I just disagree with it.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:52 PM   #176 
                    - Malevolent predator burger ads.  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:47 PM   #125 
              - RQ is correct...  LanternWaste   May-29-09 06:03 PM   #189 
                 - That was my mistake.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:08 PM   #192 
                    - I'm sure you don't...  LanternWaste   May-29-09 06:30 PM   #195 
                       - Lul, wut?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:33 PM   #196 
              - Yeah, my reply was along those lines................... playing games.........  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:26 PM   #95 
  - hich mainstream movies glorify...  LanternWaste   May-29-09 05:52 PM   #177 
     - I'm so glad you joined the thread.  redqueen   May-29-09 06:03 PM   #188 
     - The Clockwork Orange.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:12 PM   #193 
     - satirizing political and social extremes. In other words, a moral construct.  LanternWaste   May-29-09 06:34 PM   #197 
        - To some. It's entirely subjective.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:36 PM   #198 
           - The author's preface quite aptly illustrates  LanternWaste   May-29-09 06:39 PM   #200 
              - Uh, yeah.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:44 PM   #201 
              - I look forward to this thread in the morning...  LanternWaste   May-29-09 06:44 PM   #202 
     - This isn't a mainstream game by any stretch though, and would never be sold in any chain store.  Forkboy   May-29-09 06:39 PM   #199 
        - Oh Forkboy...you do kick ass.  YOY   May-29-09 08:26 PM   #213 
  - Reminds me of that nasty book, "The Collector" by John Fowles!  Bonobo   May-29-09 02:31 PM   #7 
  - GG Allin has a song called " I'm a rapist"  Kurska   May-29-09 02:41 PM   #10 
     - Actually it's called "I'm A Rapest." I'm not kidding, that's how he spelled it.  nomorenomore08   May-29-09 02:58 PM   #13 
        - Oh, the stupidity.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:09 PM   #20 
           - No argument from me. The guy didn't have two brain cells to rub together.  nomorenomore08   May-29-09 03:36 PM   #39 
  - I've left my pearls at the cleaners, what should I clutch as a substitute?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 02:37 PM   #8 
  - You really want me to tell you?  ismnotwasm   May-29-09 02:42 PM   #11 
  - WTF, who is financing the production and distribution of this evil?  shadowknows69   May-29-09 03:03 PM   #15 
  - Here's a list...  L0oniX   May-29-09 08:07 PM   #210 
     - welp, but of course, grand ol pervs  lonestarnot   May-30-09 12:50 AM   #249 
  - asking a question of some posters on here  Mari333   May-29-09 03:03 PM   #16 
  - I'd be for their right to make the game.  Forkboy   May-29-09 03:14 PM   # 
  - The problem is when people compare speaking out to 'clutching pearls'.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:16 PM   #23 
  - good point. yep.nt  Mari333   May-29-09 03:17 PM   #24 
  - What's the alternative?  Forkboy   May-29-09 03:18 PM   # 
  - The alternative to what?  redqueen   May-29-09 03:22 PM   #27 
     - Sorry  Forkboy   May-29-09 03:40 PM   #46 
        - Oh no, I'm not for censorship...  redqueen   May-29-09 03:43 PM   #51 
           - Nope, you got it. That's what I was pretty much asking in my own meandering way.  Forkboy   May-29-09 03:46 PM   #57 
  - Sure, you also have the right to speak out.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:33 PM   #35 
     - In your opinion.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:36 PM   #38 
        - And in the opinion of different sort of pearl clutchers HP it's even more disgusting.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:42 PM   #49 
           - No, not in my case... it's the content.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:45 PM   #55 
           - You just admitted downthread it was the medium.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:46 PM   #58 
              - No, you misread / failed to comprehend.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:49 PM   #60 
                 - I'm sorry, I was too busy thinking of the children.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:53 PM   #62 
                    - LOL... let me explain it to you.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:54 PM   #63 
                       - How about books in first person narrative?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:55 PM   #64 
                          - Still not the same. It is not simulation.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:58 PM   #66 
                             - Hey, I'm not the one splitting hairs.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:04 PM   #72 
                                - Really?  redqueen   May-29-09 04:04 PM   #74 
                                   - Pretty much.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:07 PM   #77 
                                      - LOL  redqueen   May-29-09 04:08 PM   #78 
                                         - But there are people in the building.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:10 PM   #79 
           - You just can't stay off of rape threads, can you?  Control-Z   May-30-09 12:45 AM   #247 
              - Indeed.  omega minimo   May-30-09 01:30 AM   #257 
  - "Repellent concepts and ideas are still protected by free speech."  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:24 PM   #91 
     - So are you saying that free speech does not protect repugnant concepts and ideas?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:25 PM   #94 
     - Yes, they are.  Forkboy   May-29-09 05:06 PM   #147 
        - Wow. Free speech is more sacred to you than the damage to those women's lives?  omega minimo   May-29-09 11:38 PM   #240 
           - You just blew any chance for peace with your first line.  Forkboy   May-30-09 12:20 AM   #245 
              - OK  omega minimo   May-30-09 01:27 AM   #255 
                 - It's like talking to mayonaisse.  Forkboy   May-30-09 01:29 AM   #256 
                    - Some people think the world would be easier if they were the only one with a voice  Kurska   May-30-09 01:37 AM   #258 
                       - bullshit. is anything you've said in this thread been substantive or just reactionary bullshit?  omega minimo   May-30-09 01:40 AM   #259 
                       - Reactionary? You're the one jerking their knee and yelling "Ban everything I define as Misogynist"  Kurska   May-30-09 01:43 AM   #260 
                          - thank you for such a classic totally missing the point post  omega minimo   May-30-09 01:51 AM   #264 
                             - What excatly is it you want from me here? n/t  Kurska   May-30-09 01:59 AM   #269 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   May-30-09 01:57 AM   #267 
  - It depends.  Bonobo   May-29-09 03:14 PM   #22 
  - Not producing dehumanizing crap is not "repressing things"  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:21 PM   #88 
  - IIRC there are games like that available.  Feron   May-29-09 03:22 PM   #26 
  - I suppose someone has the right to make such trash. Free speech protects jerks too.  shadowknows69   May-29-09 03:25 PM   #29 
  - I'd be for it on the basis of free speech.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:31 PM   #34 
  - Do you really not see a difference  redqueen   May-29-09 03:38 PM   #42 
     - No, there is none.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:43 PM   #52 
  - The first ammendment is sacred in my book  EndersDame   May-29-09 04:50 PM   #129 
  - Exactly... the right to call them scum is equally sacred. (nt)  redqueen   May-29-09 04:53 PM   #136 
     - as well as various other nasty names  EndersDame   May-29-09 04:59 PM   #140 
        - As many as could possibly apply.  redqueen   May-29-09 05:02 PM   #143 
  - Actually the skinsheads made a game about shooting minorities.  YOY   May-29-09 07:46 PM   #204 
  - Follow-up....  Occulus   May-29-09 08:17 PM   #211 
     - You forgot to mention the Ayn Rand Libertarian world gone mad overtone...  YOY   May-29-09 08:29 PM   #214 
        - Tonight we shall dine on HAM AND JAMMIES! n/t  Occulus   May-29-09 08:48 PM   #219 
           - Chocolate's better than grapes!! Chocolate's better than grapes!!  YOY   May-29-09 09:03 PM   #222 
              - I'm SLIPPING!  Occulus   May-29-09 09:05 PM   #224 
  - Sad. Puke  Echo In Light   May-29-09 03:12 PM   #21 
  - This is extremely disgusting, but consider...  BolivarianHero   May-29-09 03:18 PM   #25 
  - It will soon be repackaged with a new title: "Rush Limbaugh's Dating Game"  Cheap_Trick   May-29-09 03:35 PM   #37 
  - Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad idiots make up this shit...  backtoblue   May-29-09 03:44 PM   #53 
  - true, its free speech ( as long as its depicting adults)  Mari333   May-29-09 03:49 PM   #59 
     - I think there should be a "terror" list of people who would play this game.  backtoblue   May-29-09 03:51 PM   #61 
        - I wonder if free speech covers video games that show sexual abuse and rape of children?  Mari333   May-29-09 03:56 PM   #65 
        - That's a line they're apparently all afraid to cross.  redqueen   May-29-09 03:58 PM   #67 
        - yes, I like playing devils advocate but for some reason  Mari333   May-29-09 04:00 PM   #69 
        - Not really. I answered.  Forkboy   May-29-09 04:19 PM   #86 
        - Not me, so please don't play the mocking game you're upset about with someone else.  Forkboy   May-29-09 04:17 PM   #84 
           - What?  redqueen   May-29-09 04:18 PM   #85 
           - " Whatever the reason her question was ignored so long... I think it is telling"  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:23 PM   #90 
           - You are so weird.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:25 PM   #93 
              - So then we're agreed.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:28 PM   #99 
                 - She didn't intially ask about what's covered by free speech laws.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:36 PM   #110 
                    - Uh, yeah, she did.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:37 PM   #112 
                       - Yes, the strawman... not a question about legality.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:48 PM   #127 
           - You were mocking people for not answering the question, regardless of who your response is to.  Forkboy   May-29-09 04:52 PM   #133 
              - No... not have dinner, or play a CD.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:56 PM   #138 
                 - And your last line is pretty much what everyone is saying.  Forkboy   May-29-09 05:21 PM   #151 
                    - Aw FB... I really wasn't talking about you.  redqueen   May-29-09 05:26 PM   #155 
                       - I think everyone here is disgusted by the game itself.  Forkboy   May-29-09 05:32 PM   #161 
                          - LOL... agreed on the suicide...  redqueen   May-29-09 05:37 PM   #164 
           - thats what I thought. thanks for answering. nt  Mari333   May-29-09 04:27 PM   #97 
        - Yes, it does.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:00 PM   #70 
        - okay, then I have one answer. nt  Mari333   May-29-09 04:01 PM   #71 
        - What's hard to understand is people using "free speech" as excuse to profit from scumbag products  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:43 PM   #118 
           - "You don't need to protect speech that is popular, but speech that is entirely unpopular"  Kurska   May-29-09 09:21 PM   #227 
        - Yup  Juche   May-29-09 04:28 PM   #100 
        - The USSC decided this very issue not too long ago.  EOTE   May-29-09 05:03 PM   #144 
        - You're probably not around anymore, but yes it does.  Kurska   May-29-09 09:27 PM   #228 
        - Japan has tons of porn  Juche   May-29-09 04:35 PM   #108 
        - No creepy peervs have a right to free speech and privacy  EndersDame   May-29-09 04:48 PM   #126 
  - WTF? That is sick beyond words!  Odin2005   May-29-09 03:59 PM   #68 
  - It is fundamentally just a video game  Juche   May-29-09 04:23 PM   #89 
  - Why don't the standards that apply to other media apply to video games?  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:29 PM   #101 
  - What standard applies to other media, but not video games?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:31 PM   #104 
  - take a hint  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:35 PM   #109 
     - My hint is telling me you're just making things up.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 04:38 PM   #114 
        - Wrong  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:44 PM   #122 
  - I can show you studies  Juche   May-29-09 04:43 PM   #119 
     - the thread is on video games simulating rape and you're bringing in porn  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:51 PM   #130 
     - People are talking about banning this porn DVD  Juche   May-29-09 04:52 PM   #132 
     - FWIW... I never said or implied it caused crimes.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:52 PM   #131 
        - youbetcha...nt  Mari333   May-29-09 04:53 PM   #134 
        - Well, carry on  Juche   May-29-09 04:53 PM   #135 
        - your reasoning in previous post sounds like  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:59 PM   #141 
           - Are you sure you know how reality works  Juche   May-29-09 05:04 PM   #146 
              - Yes  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:07 PM   #148 
        - and acknowledge that it does influence attitudes and behavior that harms people  omega minimo   May-29-09 04:55 PM   #137 
        - I think it's a little early to expect so much.  redqueen   May-29-09 04:57 PM   #139 
           - We have 30 years of Reaganist Dittohead brainwashing to overcome.  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:00 PM   #142 
        - Except Omega Minimo has, and you just agreed with him/her.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:31 PM   #159 
           - Where?  redqueen   May-29-09 05:40 PM   #166 
           - Posts #137 and #139.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:43 PM   #169 
              - You twisted "harms people" into "crimes"?  redqueen   May-29-09 05:51 PM   #174 
                 - "influences attitudes and behaviour that causes harm to people"  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:54 PM   #179 
                 - Bullshit. I said what I said. That's YOUR subtext, not mine. Thinking in black and white  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:56 PM   #182 
                 - I wish you were capable...  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:00 PM   #185 
                    - OM also misses the irony in having a Jello Biafra quote as a sigline...  Forkboy   May-29-09 11:27 PM   #238 
                    - Jello is a feminist and you don't know who or what you are talking about;  omega minimo   May-29-09 11:50 PM   #241 
                       - What parts of Jello's career would you like to discuss?  Forkboy   May-30-09 12:33 AM   #246 
                          - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-30-09 01:09 AM   #253 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   May-29-09 11:54 PM   #243 
                 - Uh, no... again, you are failing to comprehend.  redqueen   May-29-09 06:01 PM   #186 
                    - No, I read it loud and clear.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 06:03 PM   #190 
                       - Where'd you pull that post from?  redqueen   May-29-09 06:07 PM   #191 
                          - Cobbled together from his "Willful Ignorance" file  omega minimo   May-29-09 11:51 PM   #242 
                 - like you said, "it's a little early to expect so much"  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:54 PM   #180 
           - Don't be twisting other's words again.  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:51 PM   #173 
  - I take it that you've never been raped or sexually abused  Lorien   May-30-09 12:09 AM   #244 
  - Wow what a hot topic  JonLP24   May-29-09 05:15 PM   #150 
  - Can the player change the POV and be, say  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:24 PM   #152 
     - No not the main character  JonLP24   May-29-09 05:26 PM   #153 
     - "unlocked a girlfriend"?  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:49 PM   #171 
        - Unlocked: granted the ability to access something in software.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:51 PM   #175 
        - Master Bait  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:58 PM   #184 
        - What I meant was unlocked meaning able to use in multi-player function  JonLP24   May-29-09 05:53 PM   #178 
        - "The first girlfriend is avaliable after rescuing in an apartment complex you set on fire."  omega minimo   May-29-09 05:57 PM   #183 
           - Not sure what you're leading to  JonLP24   May-29-09 06:02 PM   #187 
              - Is it a BIG fire extinguisher?  omega minimo   May-29-09 10:18 PM   #233 
        - You really *don't* know anything about video games, do you?  Occulus   May-29-09 08:39 PM   #217 
           - someone says "unlocked a girlfriend" & people still claim games don't influence thoughts & behavior?  omega minimo   May-29-09 10:16 PM   #232 
              - You've destroyed the opposition (quite humorously may I add) just by QUOTING THEIR OWN WORDS  smalll   May-30-09 01:55 AM   #266 
                 - Hmmm. No, the only things you and OM have done is to prove  Occulus   May-30-09 09:43 AM   #279 
                    - Is "Scene It" a game? Yes? Well then... it's a game.  redqueen   May-30-09 09:11 PM   #288 
     - You're free to program such a game if you like.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 05:26 PM   #154 
  - Why not have this legal? After all Perversion is what makes "Markets!"  KoKo   May-29-09 06:45 PM   #203 
  - It won't sell like hotcakes. Most consumers will remain delightfully ignorant about its existance.  YOY   May-29-09 07:48 PM   #205 
  - I think it's more the juxtaposition of sex and violence, combined with the interactive aspect, that  nomorenomore08   May-29-09 08:22 PM   #212 
     - I would be frightened  Control-Z   May-30-09 01:46 AM   #261 
     - It's also frightening that people want to pretend that there are no  omega minimo   May-30-09 08:10 PM   #285 
     - Thanks for your reasoned post on this...  KoKo   May-30-09 07:53 PM   #283 
     - Well put.  omega minimo   May-30-09 08:13 PM   #286 
  - I'm all for games that are about killing but this sex abuse game goes too far.  L0oniX   May-29-09 08:03 PM   #208 
  - just pixels. n/t  adamuu   May-29-09 09:45 PM   #231 
  - Just synapses.  omega minimo   May-29-09 10:32 PM   #236 
  - Point 1) Free speech is free speech, we're not out to ban this. Point 2) "Gamers" are scum.  smalll   May-30-09 01:47 AM   #262 
  - "future generations" born of families who have been irreparably harmed/obliterated by this shit  omega minimo   May-30-09 01:54 AM   #265 
     - No one has the right to protect someone from "harm" if they don't want to be protected.  Kurska   May-30-09 02:02 AM   #270 
        - you have absolutely no clue what misogyny is,  omega minimo   May-30-09 02:37 AM   #271 
           - Enlighten me, I was under the assumption it was sexist feelings towards women.  Kurska   May-30-09 02:42 AM   #274 
  - It's not a game. It's an interactive DVD.  Gwendolyn   May-30-09 12:53 PM   #281 
     - LOL... what a steaming load of unadulterated bullshit.  redqueen   May-30-09 09:08 PM   #287 
        - Yeah, actually, romance novels are often about women being plied to a man's sexual will.  Gwendolyn   May-30-09 09:20 PM   #289 
           - "Lots"? Vague... doubt it's the majority.  redqueen   May-30-09 09:36 PM   #290 
              - Not vague at all. Fantasies of that nature are quite common.  Gwendolyn   May-31-09 12:17 PM   #292 
                 - You can dress this up however you like...  redqueen   May-31-09 01:33 PM   #293 
 

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