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Fri May-29-09 10:22 PM
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| 161. Well I'm sure your bitching and moaning won't encourage him. |
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I'm curious to know which gays here voted for Obama. Let's here it and explain why. At anytime during the campaign did Obama say he would immediately strike down DADT and become a fierce advocate for gay marriage? I believe you knew what you were getting when you went into the booth on 11/4/08.
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| -Why do we have to do this every night on DU |
npk |
May-28-09 08:41 PM |
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This could be epic. |
flvegan |
May-28-09 08:42 PM |
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+ f'n juan |
d_b |
May-28-09 09:02 PM |
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I think you are right. Pass some over will you? |
Javaman |
May-29-09 11:28 AM |
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Thank you. Well said. |
Neecy |
May-28-09 08:42 PM |
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I'm amazed at how many people who claim to support gay rights... |
Forkboy |
May-28-09 08:50 PM |
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That's what I as trying to say. You said it better |
npk |
May-28-09 08:52 PM |
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Hell yeah. |
liberalmuse |
May-28-09 08:50 PM |
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My thoughts on this echo your own. |
Seldona |
May-29-09 08:54 AM |
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5th rec. nt |
ZombieHorde |
May-28-09 08:51 PM |
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It's probably meant in fun. |
sibelian |
May-28-09 09:01 PM |
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Sadists have a different idea of 'fun' than most of us |
Bluenorthwest |
May-29-09 10:01 AM |
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recommended. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 09:17 PM |
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I am staying out of it because I know I cannot possibly |
Lisa0825 |
May-28-09 09:18 PM |
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understand the extent of their feelings. |
AlbertCat |
May-29-09 04:56 PM |
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Well... |
Ohio Joe |
May-28-09 09:22 PM |
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KICKED AND RECC'D |
cliffordu |
May-28-09 09:37 PM |
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Everyone has a right to his/her feelings. If you don't share it, you can still understand. |
patrice |
May-28-09 10:11 PM |
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K&R |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-28-09 10:21 PM |
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May-28-09 10:34 PM |
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Obama hasn't done one good thing. He's just like Bush - maybe worse. |
Maru Kitteh |
May-28-09 11:35 PM |
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If you stop after the first sentence, you speak the truth. |
Greyhound |
May-29-09 12:26 AM |
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May-29-09 01:47 AM |
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If you stop after the first sentence, you speak the truth. |
AlbertCat |
May-29-09 05:35 PM |
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Textbook strawman |
kenfrequed |
May-29-09 09:33 AM |
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It was a over-the-top response to a over the top post |
AtheistCrusader |
May-29-09 11:40 AM |
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SHUT UP TERRORIST!!!!!!!!111111 |
TheWatcher |
May-28-09 11:41 PM |
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!!!SERIES!! |
Toasterlad |
May-28-09 11:43 PM |
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Cute. Did you pick that up |
ecstatic |
May-29-09 12:50 AM |
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See this is one reason why there are flame wars--this poster knows this is just flame-bait. |
WI_DEM |
May-29-09 08:53 AM |
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I think there's a basic lack of understanding between people who use this board differently. |
rucky |
May-28-09 10:41 PM |
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I try and do the same |
npk |
May-28-09 10:58 PM |
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Great Post, Rucky |
ProfessorGAC |
May-29-09 11:13 AM |
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I would be bothered less... |
Chulanowa |
May-28-09 10:56 PM |
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I don't get your point. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:05 PM |
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Of course we wish he'd say more |
Chulanowa |
May-28-09 11:21 PM |
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He supports it by his silence |
Missy Vixen |
May-28-09 11:30 PM |
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Oh yes, of course |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:23 AM |
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There's already talk of recalling them/working against their re-election. |
LeftyMom |
May-29-09 09:51 PM |
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Well I can only speak for myself. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:45 PM |
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He doesn't get a pass from me because he hasn't done one single fucking thing for gays |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 12:44 AM |
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Question for you then. |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:05 AM |
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Clinton wouldn't have given a microphone to McClurkin or Warren |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 01:08 AM |
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You may be right |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:30 AM |
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If you go back a few pages you will see the reactions. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 10:23 AM |
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Clinton gave benefits to her State Dept same sex couples. She's already done more for GLBT couples |
riderinthestorm |
May-29-09 10:41 AM |
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The country, and DU as a microcosm, has come a long way imo |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:03 PM |
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sadly... excellent post. I don't think he allows himself to accept that it's not a choice |
Divine Discontent |
May-29-09 10:55 AM |
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Well, there's more to every comment than |
OhioBlue |
May-29-09 09:00 PM |
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Kucinich, andb Gravel for starters..... |
jaundicedi |
May-29-09 04:44 PM |
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Well I'm sure your bitching and moaning won't encourage him. |
liquid diamond |
May-29-09 10:22 PM |
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I Think the Point Is That None Of the Justices Are Black, But Obama Is. |
Toasterlad |
May-28-09 11:48 PM |
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Oh Toasty. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:57 PM |
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May-29-09 12:25 AM |
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May-29-09 08:50 AM |
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Announcing that you have alerted is also against the rules. |
QC |
May-29-09 08:59 AM |
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No. Read my later posts |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:39 AM |
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I'd Be Happy To. |
Toasterlad |
May-30-09 01:35 PM |
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Damn!! You just laid it all out there, didn't you??? |
Number23 |
May-28-09 11:40 PM |
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Maybe because he promised to use the bully pulpit to help? |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:48 PM |
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I understand that and I don't even PROFESS to understand Obama's thinking on this |
Number23 |
May-28-09 11:55 PM |
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Which question? |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 12:00 AM |
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(sigh) |
Number23 |
May-29-09 12:06 AM |
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I'm sorry. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 12:15 AM |
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Night,night Starry... |
Number23 |
May-29-09 12:22 AM |
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The CA Supremes are so lame! |
AlbertCat |
May-29-09 05:50 PM |
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Because he has his own part in this problem. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:11 AM |
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Could you be a little more vague? |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:43 AM |
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You sound too exhausted to take in anything more specific. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:53 AM |
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I don't understand the point of the pictures (with captions) |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 12:42 AM |
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The captioned picture... |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:46 AM |
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Yes, I'm aware of that |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 12:51 AM |
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No, I'm saying it's why he's catching MORE flak |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:20 AM |
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There's more at stake here than only Prop H8. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 01:26 AM |
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I've pointed to it. And I've been explaining it. |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:39 AM |
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How did you miss the twenty FUCK THE CA SUPREMES! threads |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 01:56 AM |
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Thank you for putting it so well. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 10:18 AM |
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this is ridiculous |
Neecy |
May-29-09 10:17 AM |
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It's not Racism, per se. It's that he's not a superhero. And he's not being MLK. |
Moonwalk |
May-29-09 12:19 PM |
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What you are describing is not racism. No one is expecting Obama |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:26 PM |
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Energy needs to be directed where it will make a difference. We squander it-- |
Moonwalk |
May-29-09 03:35 PM |
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That's easy. I'd put them outside the Arch Diocese here in San Francisco |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 04:14 PM |
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That makes a lot of sense |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:24 PM |
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It doen't make any sense to say that a public promise |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 04:17 PM |
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You may have struck a nerve |
ecstatic |
May-29-09 12:49 AM |
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I'd be a shitty dentist |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:43 AM |
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You think that it is all about prop 8 |
mitchtv |
May-29-09 10:06 PM |
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Even they decided according to what they think is the law |
treestar |
May-29-09 03:22 PM |
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May-28-09 11:12 PM |
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DU's very own form of McCarthyism. |
TahitiNut |
May-28-09 11:33 PM |
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Funny the gender related allegiances |
omega minimo |
May-29-09 12:19 AM |
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The cluelessness of privilege. |
QC |
May-29-09 07:33 AM |
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The GLBT people are tired of sitting in the back of the bus |
Missy Vixen |
May-28-09 11:27 PM |
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oh no you di n't |
omega minimo |
May-29-09 12:19 AM |
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So, if you think I used the incorrect phrase, why don't you help me find a better one? |
Missy Vixen |
May-29-09 12:51 AM |
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Under the bus maybe? |
Lost-in-FL |
May-29-09 12:50 PM |
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Might not be the best expression for the situation |
AtheistCrusader |
May-29-09 11:41 AM |
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But every group has had that happen in the past |
treestar |
May-29-09 03:20 PM |
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Yep... we've just gotta 'wait', right? |
Rhythm |
May-29-09 04:05 PM |
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So, in other words, they can just wait? |
Missy Vixen |
May-30-09 01:09 AM |
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Thank you |
NMMNG |
May-29-09 12:17 AM |
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I wish I had worded that differently |
npk |
May-29-09 12:24 AM |
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You did fine. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:25 AM |
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Thanks EFerrari |
npk |
May-29-09 12:49 AM |
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I didn't mean you specifically |
NMMNG |
May-29-09 12:31 AM |
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b/c your OP has 31 recs |
omega minimo |
May-29-09 01:53 AM |
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Thanks. |
Chovexani |
May-29-09 02:05 AM |
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:) |
cboy4 |
May-29-09 02:12 AM |
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Parade here Saturday, |
mahina |
May-29-09 02:59 AM |
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Sounds great! |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:34 AM |
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I object to... |
jimlup |
May-29-09 06:16 AM |
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We need a nightly cynicism wrap-up. |
sofa king |
May-29-09 07:15 AM |
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I think the GLBT critics of POTUS are right. |
Deep13 |
May-29-09 08:58 AM |
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Great post |
spiritual_gunfighter |
May-29-09 09:08 AM |
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because just like in America |
lies and propaganda |
May-29-09 09:55 AM |
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but it just keeps going on, and on, and on, and on, and on... |
Gman |
May-29-09 10:35 AM |
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Your mocking their concerns is part of the problem, Gman. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 10:52 AM |
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So wait, their right to visit their loved on in a hospital is more important than habeus corpus? N/T |
Gorobei |
May-29-09 01:15 PM |
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Thank you, and the defense rests! |
Gman |
May-29-09 01:28 PM |
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No, it doesn't. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 02:19 PM |
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No, it's not hard to do |
Gman |
May-29-09 09:41 PM |
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Then how about just a little simple respect for their concerns? |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 10:14 PM |
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Oh well, at least he's keeping the thread kicked. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 10:19 PM |
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I have respect for their concerns |
Gman |
May-29-09 11:50 PM |
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Again, I'll remind you that I have had my civil equality revoked. Have you been through that? |
Duncan Grant |
May-30-09 12:09 AM |
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Why should it be either/or? |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 02:16 PM |
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Because the either/or fallacy is a great way to dismiss/trivialize people's concerns. |
QC |
May-29-09 03:10 PM |
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Some complain about pet issues, then turn around and promote theirs. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 03:17 PM |
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Exactly! |
QC |
May-29-09 03:20 PM |
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There's a difference between promoting your interests... |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 03:39 PM |
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To me, you pour as much villification and harrasment on the gay community here. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 05:24 PM |
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I believe in the rules here, and I try to remain civil with those who disagree with me. |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 10:38 PM |
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Lesbian and gay people in California have had their civil equality revoked. Obama says nothing. |
Duncan Grant |
May-30-09 12:03 AM |
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I think the time for them to go on and on and on is now. |
riderinthestorm |
May-29-09 11:03 AM |
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"Inconsiderate?" |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 11:15 AM |
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That's what privilege sounds like. n/t |
QC |
May-29-09 11:16 AM |
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Yep. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 11:44 AM |
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Didn't they know how annoying their whining was? Those high pitched voices? |
QC |
May-29-09 11:47 AM |
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Just look at these shameless harridens. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 12:44 PM |
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How inconsiderate! n/t |
QC |
May-29-09 12:46 PM |
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They are doing something, not venting, and they aren't blaming |
treestar |
May-29-09 03:21 PM |
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Check your history...suffragettes certainly picked in front of the |
kiva |
May-30-09 12:35 AM |
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May-29-09 11:21 AM |
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There were some people who felt exactly the same way abut that annoying King guy. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:26 AM |
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What a fierce fighter for freedom you are. Crying here. |
Bluebear |
May-29-09 11:30 AM |
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Doesn't mean people get to make shit up. |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 10:56 AM |
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That same or similar posts were on well knwn sites yesterday |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:02 AM |
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Any post after the video was linked counts as making shit up. |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 11:08 AM |
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"Thanks to GarySF for posting the video in the comments. This actually makes it worse."... |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 11:12 AM |
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Now you're "making shit up" as I specified that I hadn't checked John's blog. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:22 AM |
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AMEN! |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 03:19 PM |
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None of the blogs that put that story up yesterday set out to "make shit up". |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 03:38 PM |
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They automatically leapt at what they perceived as a opportunity to demonize Obama. |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 03:44 PM |
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Is your name Barack Obama? |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 03:53 PM |
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No. When you assign motives like that |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 04:00 PM |
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On the record |
nvme |
May-29-09 11:07 AM |
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KandR. |
Dystopian |
May-29-09 11:26 AM |
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Perhaps we should consider the long-term |
jeff47 |
May-29-09 11:27 AM |
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I think we ought to minimize *every* historically persecuted group's concerns. Daily, if possible. |
Orsino |
May-29-09 11:43 AM |
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What flame wars are you talking about? |
vanbean |
May-29-09 11:44 AM |
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Flame wars are started and continued because people love it. |
rhett o rick |
May-29-09 02:09 PM |
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Honestly, I think it's a matter of tone. |
urgk |
May-29-09 04:24 PM |
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Yup, and everybody knows it. |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 05:50 PM |
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Sorry. I have seen threads that have only asked why, that have |
ScreamingMeemie |
May-29-09 06:33 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
May-29-09 06:37 PM |
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+2 |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-30-09 12:34 AM |
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+3 n/t |
bluedawg12 |
May-30-09 02:33 AM |
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Exactly. For Every Post Overflowing With Venom for Obama, Congress, et al... |
Toasterlad |
May-30-09 01:50 PM |
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Very true. And there's something very ugly about privileged people complaining about the "tone" |
QC |
May-30-09 02:05 PM |
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Very nice post. Thanks for that. |
Number23 |
May-30-09 04:43 AM |
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indeed kr |
ooglymoogly |
May-29-09 04:34 PM |
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Proud to give this thread its 60th recommendation. |
DutchLiberal |
May-29-09 07:29 PM |
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There is nothing funny about being a second class citizen.. |
and-justice-for-all |
May-29-09 07:33 PM |
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I'm glad I've missed it. |
JNelson6563 |
May-29-09 08:05 PM |
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There is a contingent of people here who never miss a chance to criticize uppity gay people. |
Lyric |
May-30-09 01:46 PM |
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Thanks for this |
sniffa |
May-30-09 04:00 PM |
#175 |