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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 10:01 PM
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35. I have two questions:
Why did he bring that up in his speech?

Why are you bringing it up now?

Actually three:

How do gay people put up with this shit?
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  -So, what was offensive about Obama's comments re:protestors? Occam Bandage  May-28-09 07:56 PM   #0 
  - There is none .......  Tangerine LaBamba   May-28-09 08:00 PM   #1 
  - There is nothing even remotely offensive about that remark.  Political Tiger   May-28-09 08:01 PM   #2 
  - I don't either. I've also seen how he has treated other protesters and he doesn't mock them.  Pirate Smile   May-28-09 08:04 PM   #3 
  - There is NO FUCKING WAY Obama didn't know what the protest was about  katandmoon   May-28-09 08:04 PM   #4 
  - Agreed - totally heartless on his part and people acting like he  Thickasabrick   May-28-09 08:08 PM   #10 
  - Hey, it's not like there was some stinging defeat for LGBT rights the day before he spoke  jgraz   May-28-09 08:20 PM   #19 
  - Why do you say that? I don't think he keeps a timetable of who is protesting what when. nt  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 09:50 PM   #30 
  - And apparently he gets no news briefings, either.  kevinbgoode   May-28-09 10:36 PM   #48 
     - Gay-rights protesters are not the only protesters in America, or even in California.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:05 PM   #55 
        - Of course...there were demonstrations by a multitude of groups and causes  kevinbgoode   May-28-09 11:43 PM   #64 
           - There were gay-rights protesters. They were not the only protesters.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:55 PM   #67 
              - Really. . .had he made promises to all of the protesting groups?  kevinbgoode   May-29-09 12:05 AM   #70 
                 - He has promised to end the war in Iraq, to close Gitmo, to end torture, to increase transparency,  Occam Bandage   May-29-09 09:02 AM   #77 
  - EXACTLY. And he did it that way to brush it all off as unimportant. A let them eat cake moment  earth mom   May-29-09 02:21 PM   #82 
  - It was probably a scheduling thing. Who knows.  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 03:44 PM   #85 
     - Sounds like he's worried about re-election. And he should be. nt  earth mom   May-30-09 01:06 AM   #101 
        - The fundraiser in Beverly Hills was for the DNC.  ColbertWatcher   May-30-09 01:40 AM   #104 
  - As I understand it, he was being protested by several groups  cali   May-29-09 04:00 PM   #91 
  - I think people expected he would at the very least comment on Prop 8  ruggerson   May-28-09 08:04 PM   #5 
  - that's the nub of it  bigtree   May-28-09 08:06 PM   #9 
  - This.  SemiCharmedQuark   May-28-09 08:10 PM   #12 
  - Pretty sensible position  Uzybone   May-28-09 08:40 PM   #26 
  - I completely agree with you that his silence on gay rights is enormously problematic.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 10:08 PM   #37 
  - Nothing really offensive,  tekisui   May-28-09 08:06 PM   #6 
  - The events were well publicized. He knew exactly what they  Thickasabrick   May-28-09 08:06 PM   #7 
  - But there are many people upset about many things. How should he have known  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 09:49 PM   #29 
     - Lame....he was in California. The ruling happened this week. The majority of  Thickasabrick   May-28-09 10:25 PM   #40 
     - The majority of the protests in that state in this week, yes.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 10:59 PM   #52 
     - Unbelieveable.  kevinbgoode   May-28-09 10:39 PM   #49 
        - It's true that this administration has been apathetic on gay rights.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:00 PM   #53 
  - There's nothing to get. It's just People Who Hate Obama making shit up....  BlooInBloo   May-28-09 08:06 PM   #8 
  - the old standby defense: 'They hate the president'  bigtree   May-28-09 08:09 PM   #11 
  - blahblahblah.. Obama is like bush... Obama supporters are like bush supporters... blahblahblah.  BlooInBloo   May-28-09 08:10 PM   #13 
  - blahblahblah.. Obama is god . . . Obama critics are freepers looking to make trouble  bigtree   May-28-09 08:15 PM   #15 
  - LOL! This is fun! blahblahblah.. human nature applies to everyone but me! LOL! n/t  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 10:35 PM   #47 
  - Just caught up on everything. This is BS outrage.  ProSense   May-28-09 08:12 PM   #14 
  - It's usually BS outrage  bigtree   May-28-09 08:16 PM   #16 
  - Stop the distortion. n/t  ProSense   May-28-09 08:17 PM   #17 
  - see you  bigtree   May-28-09 08:19 PM   #18 
     - When you can distinquish between  ProSense   May-28-09 08:23 PM   #22 
  - No, no, see, it's BS outrage unless it's *my* concerns  Posteritatis   May-29-09 12:29 AM   #75 
  - The matter at hand is an action taken by the voters of Calif, then the courts  havocmom   May-28-09 08:36 PM   #25 
  - You hate him  HughMoran   May-28-09 10:29 PM   #42 
  - you mean...President "separate but equal" Obama?  kevinbgoode   May-28-09 10:40 PM   #50 
  - I'm not sure if Obama was telling a true story or shaping the story to make a point....  Eric J in MN   May-28-09 08:20 PM   #20 
  - The tone.  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 08:21 PM   #21 
  - Okay. So the offense is that he didn't dispatch a staffer to write down the protesters' grievances.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 10:01 PM   #34 
  - No, the tone.  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 10:33 PM   #43 
     - It's true that all protesters are beneath the lobbyists.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 10:51 PM   #51 
        - "It's true that all protesters are beneath the lobbyists." Exactly.  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 11:12 PM   #56 
           - It's not so much a disregard for the people protesting as a lack of particular regard.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:21 PM   #58 
              - See! That's exactly the tone! It's a false equivalence that dismisses genuine concerns.  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 11:47 PM   #65 
                 - Yes. Most things are dismissed, valid and otherwise. Protesting doesn't work. There we go. nt  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:57 PM   #68 
                    - I accept your apology! n/t  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 12:09 AM   #72 
                       - I'm not sure how that's an apology, but I'm glad you're happy.  Occam Bandage   May-29-09 09:03 AM   #78 
                          - I knew that you would be! n/t  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 03:28 PM   #84 
  - bullshit  donheld   May-28-09 11:35 PM   #62 
  - He never made a promise about gay marriage, so I don't get the offense either  MiniMe   May-28-09 08:29 PM   #23 
  - Here's a clue ...  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 08:34 PM   #24 
  - He did promise to repeal DADT, and DOMA. He hasn't made any effort to push for either.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 09:51 PM   #31 
     - Bingo. n/t  Thickasabrick   May-28-09 10:27 PM   #41 
  - there isnt any but there are posters working hard to create a problem. n/t  seabeyond   May-28-09 08:40 PM   #27 
  - Okay, I'll play.  cherokeeprogressive   May-28-09 09:03 PM   #28 
  - I think if you are offended that Obama said it is fair for people to chant "keep your promise,"  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 09:58 PM   #32 
  - Well said. "highest expectations of him as President."  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 09:59 PM   #33 
  - I have two questions:  rucky   May-28-09 10:01 PM   #35 
  - 1. To offend gay people.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 10:04 PM   #36 
  - Why are you going out of your way to be dismissive?  rucky   May-28-09 10:08 PM   #38 
     - It depends on what's being dismissed.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 10:19 PM   #39 
        - Fair 'nuff.  rucky   May-28-09 10:33 PM   #44 
  - Who said this had anything to do with gay people?  HughMoran   May-28-09 10:34 PM   #46 
  - Wow...the president had no idea what had happened in California?  kevinbgoode   May-28-09 10:34 PM   #45 
  - There were also protests about his treatment of Armenia going on at the same time.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:02 PM   #54 
     - Does it really matter which group of protesters he was dismissing?  ColbertWatcher   May-28-09 11:18 PM   #57 
        - That's a fair argument but an unrelated one.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:29 PM   #60 
           - Very good post  HughMoran   May-28-09 11:33 PM   #61 
           - Were the Armenian-American protests in the newspaper beforehand?  kevinbgoode   May-28-09 11:41 PM   #63 
           - Obama never claimed he was unaware of gay-rights protests.  Occam Bandage   May-28-09 11:53 PM   #66 
           - Why would he be aware of those issues and a planned demonstration?  kevinbgoode   May-29-09 12:08 AM   #71 
              - Because he isn't a moron.  Occam Bandage   May-29-09 09:07 AM   #79 
           - Probably not.  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 12:24 AM   #74 
           - No, my argument is that it doesn't matter who he insulted; he needs to apologize.  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 12:10 AM   #73 
              - And my argument is that he did not insult them, for reasons in the post you replied to. nt  Occam Bandage   May-29-09 09:07 AM   #80 
                 - A President doesn't insult people; he should apologize. n/t  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 03:27 PM   #83 
  - Great RemarksOn His Part And A Great Testament To His Character.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-28-09 11:22 PM   #59 
  - Absolutely NOTHING.  kid a   May-28-09 11:57 PM   #69 
  - He is joking about their protest. Maybe it wasn't a good joke. nt.  sam kane   May-29-09 01:48 AM   #76 
  - At worst it was a stupid joke--there were lots of protestors not only re: gay marriage but other  WI_DEM   May-29-09 09:07 AM   #81 
  - Exactly. He makes dumb jokes all the time.  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 03:56 PM   #90 
  - Nothing to get. Remarks were taken out of context. He was being self deprecating. End of story nt  HamdenRice   May-29-09 03:47 PM   #86 
  - I offer that jokes are tricky stuff  Bluenorthwest   May-29-09 03:56 PM   #89 
     - Exactly. Thank you. n/t  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 04:06 PM   #94 
     - Wow. Imagine a political world in which politicians never attempted humor.  HamdenRice   May-29-09 04:14 PM   #95 
        - Note, oh person of words  Bluenorthwest   May-29-09 04:50 PM   #96 
           - He is already a skilled humorist  HamdenRice   May-29-09 04:55 PM   #97 
           - I agree that he has shown a great sense of humor  Bluenorthwest   May-29-09 05:12 PM   #98 
           - "The comment was not a slight of anyone" No, it was ...  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 05:29 PM   #100 
           - "he should have been ready to win the moment." Once again, I am in agreement with you. n/t  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 05:26 PM   #99 
  - Remember the teabaggers?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-29-09 03:48 PM   #87 
  - Um, not the exact same thing. None of the LA protesters accused him of doing something he didn't do.  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 04:01 PM   #92 
  - I was in DC on vacation a while back  dem mba   May-29-09 03:50 PM   #88 
  - Um, not really.  ColbertWatcher   May-29-09 04:04 PM   #93 
  - Yeah, I'm sure he missed all the news coverage the day before about prop 8 being upheld  t0dd   May-30-09 01:16 AM   #102 
  - PROTESTERS!  smalll   May-30-09 01:19 AM   #103 
  - In my opinion  Time for change   May-30-09 08:15 AM   #105 
  - It is offensive because the President of the United States of America ...  ColbertWatcher   May-30-09 10:08 PM   #106 
  - absolutely nothing  ncteechur   May-30-09 10:16 PM   #107 

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