Occam Bandage
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Thu May-28-09 09:49 PM
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| 29. But there are many people upset about many things. How should he have known |
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they were protesting DADT, and not protesting the war? I'm not sure the President follows the protest schedule. He has actual work to do.
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| -So, what was offensive about Obama's comments re:protestors? |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 07:56 PM |
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There is none ....... |
Tangerine LaBamba |
May-28-09 08:00 PM |
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There is nothing even remotely offensive about that remark. |
Political Tiger |
May-28-09 08:01 PM |
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I don't either. I've also seen how he has treated other protesters and he doesn't mock them. |
Pirate Smile |
May-28-09 08:04 PM |
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There is NO FUCKING WAY Obama didn't know what the protest was about |
katandmoon |
May-28-09 08:04 PM |
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Agreed - totally heartless on his part and people acting like he |
Thickasabrick |
May-28-09 08:08 PM |
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Hey, it's not like there was some stinging defeat for LGBT rights the day before he spoke |
jgraz |
May-28-09 08:20 PM |
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Why do you say that? I don't think he keeps a timetable of who is protesting what when. nt |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 09:50 PM |
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And apparently he gets no news briefings, either. |
kevinbgoode |
May-28-09 10:36 PM |
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Gay-rights protesters are not the only protesters in America, or even in California. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:05 PM |
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Of course...there were demonstrations by a multitude of groups and causes |
kevinbgoode |
May-28-09 11:43 PM |
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There were gay-rights protesters. They were not the only protesters. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:55 PM |
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Really. . .had he made promises to all of the protesting groups? |
kevinbgoode |
May-29-09 12:05 AM |
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He has promised to end the war in Iraq, to close Gitmo, to end torture, to increase transparency, |
Occam Bandage |
May-29-09 09:02 AM |
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EXACTLY. And he did it that way to brush it all off as unimportant. A let them eat cake moment |
earth mom |
May-29-09 02:21 PM |
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It was probably a scheduling thing. Who knows. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 03:44 PM |
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Sounds like he's worried about re-election. And he should be. nt |
earth mom |
May-30-09 01:06 AM |
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The fundraiser in Beverly Hills was for the DNC. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-30-09 01:40 AM |
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As I understand it, he was being protested by several groups |
cali |
May-29-09 04:00 PM |
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I think people expected he would at the very least comment on Prop 8 |
ruggerson |
May-28-09 08:04 PM |
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that's the nub of it |
bigtree |
May-28-09 08:06 PM |
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This. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-28-09 08:10 PM |
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Pretty sensible position |
Uzybone |
May-28-09 08:40 PM |
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I completely agree with you that his silence on gay rights is enormously problematic. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 10:08 PM |
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Nothing really offensive, |
tekisui |
May-28-09 08:06 PM |
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The events were well publicized. He knew exactly what they |
Thickasabrick |
May-28-09 08:06 PM |
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But there are many people upset about many things. How should he have known |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 09:49 PM |
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Lame....he was in California. The ruling happened this week. The majority of |
Thickasabrick |
May-28-09 10:25 PM |
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The majority of the protests in that state in this week, yes. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 10:59 PM |
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Unbelieveable. |
kevinbgoode |
May-28-09 10:39 PM |
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It's true that this administration has been apathetic on gay rights. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:00 PM |
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There's nothing to get. It's just People Who Hate Obama making shit up.... |
BlooInBloo |
May-28-09 08:06 PM |
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the old standby defense: 'They hate the president' |
bigtree |
May-28-09 08:09 PM |
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blahblahblah.. Obama is like bush... Obama supporters are like bush supporters... blahblahblah. |
BlooInBloo |
May-28-09 08:10 PM |
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blahblahblah.. Obama is god . . . Obama critics are freepers looking to make trouble |
bigtree |
May-28-09 08:15 PM |
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LOL! This is fun! blahblahblah.. human nature applies to everyone but me! LOL! n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 10:35 PM |
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Just caught up on everything. This is BS outrage. |
ProSense |
May-28-09 08:12 PM |
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It's usually BS outrage |
bigtree |
May-28-09 08:16 PM |
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Stop the distortion. n/t |
ProSense |
May-28-09 08:17 PM |
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see you |
bigtree |
May-28-09 08:19 PM |
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When you can distinquish between |
ProSense |
May-28-09 08:23 PM |
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No, no, see, it's BS outrage unless it's *my* concerns |
Posteritatis |
May-29-09 12:29 AM |
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The matter at hand is an action taken by the voters of Calif, then the courts |
havocmom |
May-28-09 08:36 PM |
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You hate him |
HughMoran |
May-28-09 10:29 PM |
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you mean...President "separate but equal" Obama? |
kevinbgoode |
May-28-09 10:40 PM |
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I'm not sure if Obama was telling a true story or shaping the story to make a point.... |
Eric J in MN |
May-28-09 08:20 PM |
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The tone. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 08:21 PM |
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Okay. So the offense is that he didn't dispatch a staffer to write down the protesters' grievances. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 10:01 PM |
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No, the tone. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 10:33 PM |
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It's true that all protesters are beneath the lobbyists. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 10:51 PM |
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"It's true that all protesters are beneath the lobbyists." Exactly. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 11:12 PM |
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It's not so much a disregard for the people protesting as a lack of particular regard. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:21 PM |
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See! That's exactly the tone! It's a false equivalence that dismisses genuine concerns. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 11:47 PM |
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Yes. Most things are dismissed, valid and otherwise. Protesting doesn't work. There we go. nt |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:57 PM |
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I accept your apology! n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 12:09 AM |
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I'm not sure how that's an apology, but I'm glad you're happy. |
Occam Bandage |
May-29-09 09:03 AM |
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I knew that you would be! n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 03:28 PM |
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bullshit |
donheld |
May-28-09 11:35 PM |
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He never made a promise about gay marriage, so I don't get the offense either |
MiniMe |
May-28-09 08:29 PM |
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Here's a clue ... |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 08:34 PM |
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He did promise to repeal DADT, and DOMA. He hasn't made any effort to push for either. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 09:51 PM |
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Bingo. n/t |
Thickasabrick |
May-28-09 10:27 PM |
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there isnt any but there are posters working hard to create a problem. n/t |
seabeyond |
May-28-09 08:40 PM |
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Okay, I'll play. |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-28-09 09:03 PM |
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I think if you are offended that Obama said it is fair for people to chant "keep your promise," |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 09:58 PM |
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Well said. "highest expectations of him as President." |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 09:59 PM |
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I have two questions: |
rucky |
May-28-09 10:01 PM |
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1. To offend gay people. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 10:04 PM |
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Why are you going out of your way to be dismissive? |
rucky |
May-28-09 10:08 PM |
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It depends on what's being dismissed. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 10:19 PM |
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Fair 'nuff. |
rucky |
May-28-09 10:33 PM |
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Who said this had anything to do with gay people? |
HughMoran |
May-28-09 10:34 PM |
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Wow...the president had no idea what had happened in California? |
kevinbgoode |
May-28-09 10:34 PM |
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There were also protests about his treatment of Armenia going on at the same time. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:02 PM |
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Does it really matter which group of protesters he was dismissing? |
ColbertWatcher |
May-28-09 11:18 PM |
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That's a fair argument but an unrelated one. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:29 PM |
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Very good post |
HughMoran |
May-28-09 11:33 PM |
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Were the Armenian-American protests in the newspaper beforehand? |
kevinbgoode |
May-28-09 11:41 PM |
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Obama never claimed he was unaware of gay-rights protests. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-09 11:53 PM |
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Why would he be aware of those issues and a planned demonstration? |
kevinbgoode |
May-29-09 12:08 AM |
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Because he isn't a moron. |
Occam Bandage |
May-29-09 09:07 AM |
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Probably not. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 12:24 AM |
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No, my argument is that it doesn't matter who he insulted; he needs to apologize. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 12:10 AM |
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And my argument is that he did not insult them, for reasons in the post you replied to. nt |
Occam Bandage |
May-29-09 09:07 AM |
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A President doesn't insult people; he should apologize. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 03:27 PM |
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Great RemarksOn His Part And A Great Testament To His Character. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-09 11:22 PM |
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Absolutely NOTHING. |
kid a |
May-28-09 11:57 PM |
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He is joking about their protest. Maybe it wasn't a good joke. nt. |
sam kane |
May-29-09 01:48 AM |
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At worst it was a stupid joke--there were lots of protestors not only re: gay marriage but other |
WI_DEM |
May-29-09 09:07 AM |
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Exactly. He makes dumb jokes all the time. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 03:56 PM |
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Nothing to get. Remarks were taken out of context. He was being self deprecating. End of story nt |
HamdenRice |
May-29-09 03:47 PM |
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I offer that jokes are tricky stuff |
Bluenorthwest |
May-29-09 03:56 PM |
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Exactly. Thank you. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 04:06 PM |
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Wow. Imagine a political world in which politicians never attempted humor. |
HamdenRice |
May-29-09 04:14 PM |
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Note, oh person of words |
Bluenorthwest |
May-29-09 04:50 PM |
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He is already a skilled humorist |
HamdenRice |
May-29-09 04:55 PM |
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I agree that he has shown a great sense of humor |
Bluenorthwest |
May-29-09 05:12 PM |
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"The comment was not a slight of anyone" No, it was ... |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 05:29 PM |
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"he should have been ready to win the moment." Once again, I am in agreement with you. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 05:26 PM |
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Remember the teabaggers? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
May-29-09 03:48 PM |
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Um, not the exact same thing. None of the LA protesters accused him of doing something he didn't do. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 04:01 PM |
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I was in DC on vacation a while back |
dem mba |
May-29-09 03:50 PM |
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Um, not really. |
ColbertWatcher |
May-29-09 04:04 PM |
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Yeah, I'm sure he missed all the news coverage the day before about prop 8 being upheld |
t0dd |
May-30-09 01:16 AM |
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PROTESTERS! |
smalll |
May-30-09 01:19 AM |
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In my opinion |
Time for change |
May-30-09 08:15 AM |
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It is offensive because the President of the United States of America ... |
ColbertWatcher |
May-30-09 10:08 PM |
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absolutely nothing |
ncteechur |
May-30-09 10:16 PM |
#107 |
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