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Fri May-29-09 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #87 |
| 91. Well, that's not terribly helpful, but thanks for your input anyway. |
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I was simply looking for someone who could describe the government's structure so that I could better understand the process and issues, is all. Glynda and IRAs and 401Ks doesn't help answer my simple question.
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| -Holy crap -- Schwarzenegger wants to *eliminate* CA welfare? |
phantom power |
May-28-09 06:40 PM |
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He's going to have to spend A LOT more |
annabanana |
May-28-09 06:41 PM |
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While he's sending people out of prison through the back door? |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:44 PM |
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I seriously hope the Legislature will fight this hard |
KingFlorez |
May-28-09 06:42 PM |
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I think he's betting on more money fro D.C.. since he knows it would look bad on |
glowing |
May-28-09 06:44 PM |
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That's quite a game of chicken.... |
phantom power |
May-28-09 06:46 PM |
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Raising taxes requires a 2/3 vote of the Legislature. |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 06:56 PM |
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But stripping citizens of their rights only requires a 50%+1 popular vote |
TommyO |
May-28-09 07:18 PM |
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I don't see why a proposition that imposes a 2/3 requirement doesn't itself |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:42 PM |
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This is the hangover for a multiple-decade constitutional party in CA |
anigbrowl |
May-28-09 08:36 PM |
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Arnie is reducing everyone to nothing in this state |
Whoa_Nelly |
May-28-09 06:47 PM |
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I'd say it's more like |
TransitJohn |
May-28-09 06:49 PM |
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Well put! |
Whoa_Nelly |
May-28-09 06:51 PM |
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Exactly. Those stupid propositions are coming back to bite them now. |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:06 PM |
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and the State Legislature |
Thothmes |
May-28-09 07:49 PM |
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Yep. We can't put all the blame on him. |
anigbrowl |
May-28-09 08:38 PM |
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Are you moving to Las Vegas? |
fair trade soy chai |
May-28-09 07:01 PM |
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Oklahoma City |
Whoa_Nelly |
May-28-09 07:16 PM |
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I am going to grad school this fall to study SPED...(I am a "mature" student, too). |
fair trade soy chai |
May-28-09 07:20 PM |
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Am going to go into the private school sector, if I can |
Whoa_Nelly |
May-28-09 07:49 PM |
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Any idea where those places are? I have been applying |
emsimon33 |
May-29-09 02:50 AM |
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What about the Dems and Rethugs in the legislature who are voting against |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:05 PM |
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Proposition 13 was sold to the electorate as a bleeding heart proposition |
Cleita |
May-28-09 08:51 PM |
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You're right -- lots of places have a tax system that addresses the problem |
pnwmom |
May-29-09 02:18 AM |
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You do realize that prop 13 passed in 1979 or so, right? |
LooseWilly |
May-29-09 02:39 AM |
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Thom Hartmann had a theory about this |
Canuckistanian |
May-28-09 06:48 PM |
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Sorry, he should have a tax hike on the wealthiest Californians... |
Serial Mom |
May-28-09 06:51 PM |
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Some make twice that, as a starting salary. nt |
MADem |
May-28-09 06:54 PM |
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Some make 7 figure salaries doing scoring and sound design. |
Billy Burnett |
May-28-09 06:59 PM |
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The film industry is already fleeing the state. |
girl gone mad |
May-28-09 07:55 PM |
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They're coming to Massachusetts--in DROVES. nt |
MADem |
May-29-09 03:30 PM |
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"He"? Two-thirds of the legislature has to approve any tax increase. |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 06:57 PM |
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Very bad situation. Looks like they're about to self-implode. |
phantom power |
May-28-09 06:59 PM |
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But then there's the 2/3 majority mandate for tax increases |
Canuckistanian |
May-28-09 06:59 PM |
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Can he do that unilaterally? I'm not familiar with CA government workings, I'm afraid. |
MADem |
May-28-09 06:53 PM |
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I have no clue either |
Canuckistanian |
May-28-09 06:56 PM |
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No, he can't. And two-thirds of the legislature must approve any tax increase |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 06:58 PM |
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Fascinating--so it's an Inaction Standoff. He could solve his problem in the blink of an eye, |
MADem |
May-28-09 07:09 PM |
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Hah! Except he can't. California tried to approve just the medical use of |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:41 PM |
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Didn't the feds also say that they're going to back away from enforcement on that plant, though? |
MADem |
May-28-09 07:55 PM |
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It's still very much legal for medicinal use here in CA. |
StrongBad |
May-28-09 08:48 PM |
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Okay, good. Glad to hear some progress has been made somewhere! n/t |
pnwmom |
May-29-09 02:17 AM |
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No, he couldn't |
anigbrowl |
May-28-09 08:43 PM |
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You're not counting on the Pot Tourists. That might increase revenues! |
MADem |
May-28-09 11:54 PM |
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For sure, but it'll be a fairly marginal gain |
anigbrowl |
May-29-09 12:15 AM |
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the... pot tourists? |
LooseWilly |
May-29-09 02:32 AM |
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It got taken home in Nevada, too... |
MADem |
May-29-09 03:29 PM |
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He most certainly can. In our state the Gov has the power to veto line items in budgets... |
ourbluenation |
May-28-09 08:50 PM |
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to be clear - I was not talking about tax hikes..sorry for the confusion. |
ourbluenation |
May-28-09 08:51 PM |
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And maybe Glynda, the good witch of the East (??) will swoop down... |
LooseWilly |
May-29-09 02:52 AM |
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Well, that's not terribly helpful, but thanks for your input anyway. |
MADem |
May-29-09 03:50 PM |
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Sounds like the "n-dimensional chess" theory to me... |
phantom power |
May-28-09 06:56 PM |
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It doesn't sound likely, does it? |
Canuckistanian |
May-28-09 07:02 PM |
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He's a Republican! |
DBoon |
May-28-09 07:01 PM |
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i bet on: won't happen. |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-09 09:47 PM |
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And close 80% of the state parks, eliminate the AIDS office, and eliminate the |
XemaSab |
May-28-09 06:50 PM |
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The GOP -- party motto: "penny wise, pound foolish" |
phantom power |
May-28-09 06:57 PM |
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Pretty much... |
XemaSab |
May-28-09 06:59 PM |
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The Dems are at fault here, too. |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 06:59 PM |
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I agree, although... |
phantom power |
May-28-09 07:02 PM |
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He's been saying that for quite some time. No one's been listening. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:07 PM |
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huh. maybe I have to change my mind about the Thom Hartman theory? |
phantom power |
May-28-09 07:26 PM |
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Yeah, take another look |
anigbrowl |
May-28-09 08:46 PM |
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Newsflash: that was 31 years ago. Some of us weren't even born yet. |
ContinentalOp |
May-28-09 08:11 PM |
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Newsflash: if Californians are unhappy with that proposition they can repeal it |
pnwmom |
May-29-09 02:19 AM |
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That 2/3 vote provision has been law as long as I can remember. |
LooseWilly |
May-28-09 09:04 PM |
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It IS a circus. And I'm disgusted that in my state the voters passed |
pnwmom |
May-29-09 02:23 AM |
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I'm sorry for you, and your state. |
LooseWilly |
May-29-09 02:47 AM |
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Why did he allow the kid to sit around in a dirty diaper? |
Cleita |
May-28-09 08:56 PM |
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"We can't afford it". |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-09 06:50 PM |
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and Healthy Families and close the state parks. |
Sequoia |
May-28-09 06:54 PM |
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"we can't afford those things" |
Hannah Bell |
May-28-09 06:55 PM |
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and if you try to make the wealthy pay for them |
DBoon |
May-28-09 07:03 PM |
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The legislature and the people are helping to destroy the state. |
pnwmom |
May-28-09 07:02 PM |
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The "Total Recall" is proving to be a huge, gigantic FAILURE. |
Initech |
May-28-09 07:02 PM |
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You know, since Reagan |
MichaelHarris |
May-28-09 07:04 PM |
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Squeeze play |
SoCalDem |
May-28-09 07:07 PM |
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I see dozens of CA plates on cars here in N, Texas. |
girl gone mad |
May-28-09 07:59 PM |
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Money is definitely required to live in CA, especially SF and LA. 1 bedrooms rent for about $1500 |
Liberal_in_LA |
May-29-09 01:29 AM |
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You forgot Oregon and Washington. |
LooseWilly |
May-29-09 02:24 AM |
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I didn't forget them..just that the "leavers" are likely to be |
SoCalDem |
May-29-09 01:43 PM |
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That sounds like a recipe for social unrest. |
JVS |
May-28-09 07:17 PM |
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My first thought too: stripping away the social contract will mean civil unrest. |
ProgressIn2008 |
May-28-09 07:22 PM |
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I think it'll mostly depend on how the police treat the newly-homeless. n/t |
rucky |
May-28-09 07:26 PM |
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Since when are CA's police known for calm and non-escalating behavior? |
JVS |
May-28-09 07:27 PM |
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it's what the people want |
Retrograde |
May-28-09 07:26 PM |
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Sounds like the people are about to run afoul of the 3rd chinese curse. |
phantom power |
May-28-09 07:29 PM |
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Those props would have made things worse. They were all cuts anyway, including a spending CAP. |
ContinentalOp |
May-28-09 08:16 PM |
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yea, think of the money they'll save |
spanone |
May-28-09 07:42 PM |
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Repeal Prop 13! Then tell Grover Norquist he *has* no business in California |
bridgit |
May-28-09 07:49 PM |
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Typical idiot Republican. n/t |
Triana |
May-28-09 08:39 PM |
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Excellent !! Now I'll finally have the recruiting tool I need !! |
LooseWilly |
May-28-09 09:09 PM |
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This proves that republicans CAN run things....... |
Joe the Liberal |
May-28-09 09:11 PM |
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I think in Ahnold's case, it was the celebrity appeal |
Art_from_Ark |
May-28-09 11:30 PM |
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Are there other areas that can be cut easily? |
dkf |
May-29-09 01:33 AM |
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