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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:58 PM
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20. They also both drive a limo, Bush and Obama. And, OMG, they both wear SHOES!!!
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  -Preventive Incarceration Is Tyranny Time for change  May-26-09 06:50 PM   #0 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   May-26-09 06:54 PM   #1 
  - Tell it to GWBush. Get back to us when, if ever, President Obama institutes such a policy.  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 06:55 PM   #2 
  - How can you say that?  Time for change   May-26-09 07:00 PM   #3 
  - Because I don't take others' word for what the president said, I look at his actual words.  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 07:28 PM   #4 
     - No, I doubt very much that that's correct  Time for change   May-26-09 07:51 PM   #5 
        - I've read Feingold, ACLU, CCR, and others' statements and interpretations.  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 08:17 PM   #6 
           - It is his responsibility to refute widely made sincere interpretations  Time for change   May-26-09 08:30 PM   #11 
           - And thats okay?  LAGC   May-26-09 08:53 PM   #16 
              - I hope you don't think that I was saying that that's ok  Time for change   May-26-09 08:59 PM   #21 
                 - Oh, okay, sorry.  LAGC   May-26-09 09:01 PM   #22 
                    - I was quoting Obama's words  Time for change   May-26-09 09:04 PM   #26 
           - Then Obama should immediately refute the assertions made by scholars..  girl gone mad   May-26-09 08:55 PM   #18 
              - Name one president who regularly responded/refuted misinterpretations by "scholars".  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 09:02 PM   #24 
                 - This question is moot for the purpose of determining what Obama said  Time for change   May-26-09 09:56 PM   #30 
                    - "I am not going to release individuals who endanger the American people."  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 09:59 PM   #31 
                       - In other words, you are saying that  Time for change   May-26-09 10:03 PM   #32 
                       - Yes, he should.  Political Heretic   May-26-09 10:10 PM   #33 
                       - Oh FFS. Just get on with it you hack, you're an Obamite and would excuse him  Greyhound   May-26-09 11:19 PM   #40 
                          - I love you, Greyhound.  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 09:49 AM   #52 
                             - Do you support the policy of "preventive detention" or don't you?  EOTE   May-27-09 10:53 AM   #59 
                                - I still maintain that he has no such policy and that he only mentioned the dilemma.  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 01:09 PM   #63 
                                   - So what was the point of your post 31?  EOTE   May-27-09 01:47 PM   #66 
                                   - Regarding assistance by Congress  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   May-27-09 02:06 PM   #67 
  - Actually, that's the current policy. Obama's policy.  BuyingThyme   May-26-09 08:18 PM   #7 
  - No kidding. I've never seem such passivity or such abject denial  EFerrari   May-26-09 08:26 PM   #9 
  - I love you, EFerrari!  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 08:50 PM   #13 
  - Nope, it's a policy in flux. That's clear to anyone willing to read up on it...  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 08:49 PM   #12 
     - Nope, it's people being held by the Obama administration without charges.  BuyingThyme   May-26-09 08:50 PM   #14 
        - True, until such time as they are released, which is being arranged as we speak...  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 08:52 PM   #15 
           - "In some cases" was the Bush policy too.  BuyingThyme   May-26-09 08:56 PM   #19 
              - They also both drive a limo, Bush and Obama. And, OMG, they both wear SHOES!!!  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 08:58 PM   #20 
                 - But limos and shoes don't trample on habeas corpus.  BuyingThyme   May-26-09 09:01 PM   #23 
                    - No, Bush did that and left a Brer Patch of trouble for Obama to undo.  NYC_SKP   May-26-09 09:03 PM   #25 
                       - This is the silliest, most tired excuse I've ever heard.  Political Heretic   May-26-09 10:16 PM   #34 
                          - IMO  tan guera   May-26-09 10:58 PM   #37 
                          - so what is YOUR solution?  RaleighNCDUer   May-27-09 03:08 PM   #74 
  - Because, in a democracy, good citizens wait until it's convenient to voice their opinions  jgraz   May-26-09 08:29 PM   #10 
  - K&R  leftstreet   May-26-09 08:18 PM   #8 
  - K&R  Richard Steele   May-26-09 08:55 PM   #17 
  - We Should Call This What It Really Is -- Paranoid Detention  Senator   May-26-09 09:15 PM   #27 
  - Excellent points Senator  Time for change   May-27-09 09:08 AM   #51 
  - Great post. Political parties sometimes don't allow people  mmonk   May-26-09 09:18 PM   #28 
  - Yes, it most certainly is nonpartisan -- Or at least is SHOULD be  Time for change   May-27-09 10:30 AM   #57 
  - My God, it's like we're living right in  Wednesdays   May-26-09 09:37 PM   #29 
  - Any diabolical regime  tan guera   May-26-09 11:04 PM   #38 
  - Without even the cover of the psychics. n/t  Greyhound   May-26-09 11:24 PM   #41 
  - I thought of that while I was writing this  Time for change   May-27-09 05:43 PM   #94 
  - I share your interpretation of President Obama's words, Time for change. We must  bertman   May-26-09 10:19 PM   #35 
  - Thank you bertman  Time for change   May-27-09 05:59 PM   #95 
  - I'm particularly impressed with the Grenier part of your piece  mmonk   May-26-09 10:22 PM   #36 
  - Auto K&R with a double plus good thrown in.  Greyhound   May-26-09 11:12 PM   #39 
  - I'm watching re-runs of Boston Legal  tan guera   May-27-09 12:16 AM   #43 
  - I used to think that stuff was made up and/or over-dramatized, I thought that the  Greyhound   May-27-09 03:23 AM   #45 
  - Thank you --"The 45th President" gives us a lot to think about  Time for change   May-27-09 06:01 PM   #96 
  - Given what happened on 9/11, I have to disagree  stevietheman   May-26-09 11:33 PM   #42 
  - I am concerned......  voc   May-27-09 02:44 AM   #44 
  - Some are probably.  mmonk   May-27-09 07:13 AM   #47 
     - "The System" was what made America better than other places.  Dr.Phool   May-27-09 04:51 PM   #85 
  - The problem is the general publics amnesia...  wuvuj   May-27-09 07:32 AM   #49 
  - Given what happened on 9/11  Time for change   May-27-09 12:01 PM   #60 
  - "What happened on 9/11" is far from certain. Continuing to use that rubric ...  puebloknot   May-27-09 02:35 PM   #71 
  - Oh yes. Fascism. It's the new freedom.  Dr.Phool   May-27-09 04:47 PM   #84 
  - We can't take the chance of becoming them.  Orsino   May-28-09 08:00 AM   #105 
  - K&R  pleah   May-27-09 06:54 AM   #46 
  - In a surveillance society...we are ALL under....  wuvuj   May-27-09 07:15 AM   #48 
  - True...the corporate/police state is all around us  Echo In Light   May-27-09 09:59 AM   #53 
  - True...the corporate/police state is all around us  Echo In Light   May-27-09 09:59 AM   #54 
  - Stop, just stop. Reality has no place here.  rhett o rick   May-27-09 06:39 PM   #100 
  - Yeah, I'm still wondering how it's any different from preemptive war  shadowknows69   May-27-09 07:47 AM   #50 
  - It's not  Time for change   May-27-09 06:28 PM   #99 
  - there's our CHANGE we can belive in!  upi402   May-27-09 10:00 AM   #55 
  - It's CYA politics to avoid facing failure.  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-27-09 10:20 AM   #56 
  - That O is even entertaining this notion ---  Hell Hath No Fury   May-27-09 10:50 AM   #58 
  - K & R, bookmarked  Raksha   May-27-09 12:06 PM   #61 
  - Happens all the time with mental illness and domestic violence.  moondust   May-27-09 12:22 PM   #62 
  - First of all, that's a mental health designation, and I doubt that it applies to the detainees that  Time for change   May-27-09 01:12 PM   #64 
     - As for Gitmo...  moondust   May-27-09 01:46 PM   #65 
        - Good point moondust  windoe   May-27-09 02:33 PM   #70 
        - "...classified as a mental health case..." You mean the way they did it ...  puebloknot   May-27-09 02:42 PM   #72 
        - Not even close.  moondust   May-27-09 03:40 PM   #78 
        - You say "I haven't concluded yet that Obama intends to detain anybody indefinitely without some kind  Time for change   May-27-09 03:50 PM   #79 
           - Quite honestly  moondust   May-27-09 04:20 PM   #81 
              - I think you're the one who's reading too much into it.  Time for change   May-27-09 04:36 PM   #82 
  - Thank you for this insightful post.  man4allcats   May-27-09 02:11 PM   #68 
  - Wonderful! It is surreal that many on the left don't understand the basic premises  debbierlus   May-27-09 02:27 PM   #69 
  - Thank you  Time for change   May-27-09 06:47 PM   #101 
  - This OP = "Preventive Outrage"  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 02:47 PM   #73 
  - This from a person who begins by arguing that Obama has no intention to use preventive incarceration  Time for change   May-27-09 03:36 PM   #75 
  - Please indicate where I said any such thing.  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 03:39 PM   #77 
     - Oh for God sakes -- I'll point it out again  Time for change   May-27-09 04:15 PM   #80 
        - LOL!  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 04:56 PM   #86 
        - What he will not do is that he will not release them from incarceration  Time for change   May-27-09 05:08 PM   #89 
           - Precisely. I accept your apology.  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 06:24 PM   #97 
        - That poster still denies it's even a topic of conversation  EFerrari   May-27-09 05:01 PM   #88 
           - Yes, I guess you're right  Time for change   May-27-09 05:19 PM   #90 
              - I want to thank you for putting the OP together for us.  EFerrari   May-27-09 05:21 PM   #91 
                 - Thank you  Time for change   May-27-09 05:30 PM   #92 
                 - I Accept Your Apology, too, EFerrari.  NYC_SKP   May-27-09 06:26 PM   #98 
  - I don't even understand why you posted to this thread.  EFerrari   May-27-09 05:37 PM   #93 
  - K and R  Mari333   May-27-09 03:38 PM   #76 
  - pre-emptive incarceration--wasn't that the premise of the movie  SemperEadem   May-27-09 04:37 PM   #83 
  - Yes  Time for change   May-27-09 06:50 PM   #102 
  - Nixon's former Attorney General, John Mitchell, had it right.  Dr.Phool   May-27-09 04:57 PM   #87 
  - Yes, yes it is.  HughMoran   May-27-09 08:44 PM   #103 
  - Thanks for the thoughtful posts.  reprehensor   May-28-09 07:23 AM   #104 

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