| 62. I believe this is called picking nits. Has this asshole ever read the |
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base at the Statue Of Liberty?
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
I'm getting tired of these "Americans".
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| -Nathan Deal, Georgia Lawmaker, Wants To End "Birthright Citizenship" |
kristopher |
May-26-09 02:37 PM |
#0 |
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Yah, well...good luck with all that. Amending the |
MineralMan |
May-26-09 02:40 PM |
#1 |
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Yes and no. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:19 PM |
#24 |
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You have no idea. Such an amendment would not be possible. |
MineralMan |
May-26-09 07:01 PM |
#52 |
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It is true that I'm not paying attention. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 09:52 PM |
#58 |
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public support for this issue is "very high" ?? I guess you polled everyone? |
Blue_Tires |
May-27-09 01:41 PM |
#101 |
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Public atitutudes on immigration reform are one of the most highly polled subjects out there |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:47 PM |
#103 |
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public support for general immigration reform and support for this specific proposal |
Blue_Tires |
May-27-09 02:19 PM |
#107 |
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It says the climate is favorable. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 03:54 PM |
#121 |
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The climate for making every delivery a paternity verification issue |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:21 PM |
#152 |
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It seems to work in the rest of the world. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:16 PM |
#158 |
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Here is a reality check |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 01:02 AM |
#182 |
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Actually I found the list |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:12 AM |
#184 |
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Partly to dredd scott, partly as the standard of the age in international law |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 01:24 AM |
#188 |
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At least one piece of your information isn't correct... |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:40 AM |
#192 |
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Not when you pick up the US Citizenship |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 01:42 AM |
#193 |
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It's getting late |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:48 AM |
#196 |
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I say go for it and then ship the Anti-American out! |
rustydog |
May-26-09 07:41 PM |
#55 |
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Deal may or may not be a racist |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:27 PM |
#65 |
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I prefer the simplicity of: you were born here, you're American. |
Eric J in MN |
May-26-09 02:41 PM |
#2 |
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Why? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:31 PM |
#25 |
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Because the children of immigrants shouldn't have to prove their Americanism |
Bucky |
May-26-09 09:59 PM |
#60 |
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That is probably the WORST straaw man I've seen today. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:15 PM |
#63 |
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Correction: second best |
Bucky |
May-26-09 10:33 PM |
#68 |
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What was written: |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:46 PM |
#69 |
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you seem to be ignoring a few important words |
fishwax |
May-27-09 10:05 PM |
#146 |
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I'm ignoring nothing |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:24 PM |
#159 |
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none of which is relevant to your silly presumption that the Bucky was advocating one-world govt |
fishwax |
May-27-09 11:46 PM |
#167 |
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I'd love to hear of the others |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:49 PM |
#169 |
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Canada, for instance |
fishwax |
May-27-09 11:52 PM |
#171 |
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Thank you!!! |
kristopher |
May-28-09 12:13 AM |
#175 |
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And to your other comment |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:51 PM |
#170 |
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what you continue to ignore is the fact that |
fishwax |
May-27-09 11:53 PM |
#172 |
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your double negative is a bit confusing |
kristopher |
May-28-09 12:04 AM |
#174 |
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what makes you think he doesn't? |
fishwax |
May-28-09 12:17 AM |
#176 |
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I think I'm more focused on the word "unfairly" |
kristopher |
May-28-09 12:33 AM |
#177 |
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it's still a huge logical leap to get to the elimination of the nation state itself |
fishwax |
May-28-09 12:42 AM |
#178 |
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I read the post (in its totality) differently than you. |
kristopher |
May-28-09 12:47 AM |
#179 |
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as they say, you're entitled to your own interpretation, but not your own facts |
fishwax |
May-28-09 12:55 AM |
#180 |
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I'm not "making up facts" |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:05 AM |
#183 |
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that's rather amusing |
fishwax |
May-28-09 01:13 AM |
#185 |
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If I had, I would |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:17 AM |
#186 |
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I'm for changing it three ways... |
DatManFromNawlins |
May-26-09 10:29 PM |
#67 |
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Well, the law is that if you are born here, you are an American. |
closeupready |
May-26-09 10:53 PM |
#70 |
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The discussion is "Do we want to change that law?" |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:57 PM |
#73 |
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Not sure I understand the logic behind two and three. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:56 PM |
#72 |
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You use the word "easy" |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:22 PM |
#154 |
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That's a red herring |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:27 PM |
#160 |
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That's not a rational response to the comment |
jberryhill |
May-28-09 08:36 AM |
#206 |
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won't change a thing right now ... |
zbdent |
May-26-09 02:41 PM |
#3 |
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DING DING DING! Zbdent, you're our grand prize winner! |
rocktivity |
May-26-09 02:48 PM |
#8 |
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That makes no sense. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:32 PM |
#26 |
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meaning that it's a cosmetic law ... |
zbdent |
May-26-09 06:37 PM |
#50 |
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I really don't give a fig about the right's goals and deporting people. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 09:57 PM |
#59 |
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And it's not something a Governor has any say over... |
joeybee12 |
May-26-09 02:41 PM |
#4 |
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That = 1 red herring, 1 poisoning the well, and 1 shoot the messenger |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:36 PM |
#27 |
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So he needs to repeal that portion of the 14th amendment. |
WeDidIt |
May-26-09 02:42 PM |
#5 |
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Yah. This is flagburning, gay marriage, Republican junk legislation. |
aquart |
May-26-09 02:52 PM |
#10 |
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Yep, only another amendment can override it. |
Xithras |
May-26-09 03:02 PM |
#15 |
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There is extremely high support for changing this |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:37 PM |
#28 |
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Citation please |
WeDidIt |
May-26-09 06:06 PM |
#37 |
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The issue of anchor babies is part and parcel of the immigration issue. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:39 PM |
#51 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-26-09 07:32 PM |
#53 |
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Yes |
kristopher |
May-26-09 09:47 PM |
#57 |
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You made the assertion and cannot back it up |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 08:19 AM |
#77 |
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"Public Opinion Snapshot: Public More Supportive of Immigration Reform" |
pampango |
May-27-09 08:37 AM |
#79 |
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'Not directly related to your discussion of "anchor babies"' |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 08:38 AM |
#80 |
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One of two. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 12:35 PM |
#86 |
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I made no assertions. You did. |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 01:03 PM |
#90 |
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Stating the obvious means... |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:15 PM |
#93 |
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Methinks thou dost protest too much |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 01:24 PM |
#97 |
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Considering you've made about 8 posts |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:28 PM |
#99 |
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Dude, I'm still waiting for a citation |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 02:39 PM |
#113 |
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Dude you still have the google. I don't respond to attempts to bully. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 03:54 PM |
#120 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-27-09 06:15 PM |
#136 |
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There is no case involving native Americans n/t |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 02:48 PM |
#117 |
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yes there is. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 03:58 PM |
#122 |
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A reasonable measure |
gratuitous |
May-26-09 02:43 PM |
#6 |
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"Babies born in the U.S. would automatically have citizenship only if |
rocktivity |
May-26-09 02:44 PM |
#7 |
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Are you sober? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:45 PM |
#30 |
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But SHOULD it be waived on the grounds of a child existing? |
rocktivity |
May-26-09 06:28 PM |
#48 |
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What waiver due to impending parenthood? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:35 PM |
#49 |
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The problem is that there WOULD be pregancy scenarios |
rocktivity |
May-26-09 08:22 PM |
#56 |
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Well, that's an opinion |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:00 PM |
#61 |
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The law would be unconstitutional on its face. n/t |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 02:47 PM |
#116 |
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Maybe, but the author of the clause didn't think so. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:00 PM |
#123 |
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SCOTUS already set the precedent, so his views don't mean shit. |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 06:31 PM |
#138 |
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Brick, meet thick.... |
kristopher |
May-27-09 09:30 PM |
#141 |
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Wrong again |
WeDidIt |
May-28-09 05:46 AM |
#204 |
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They don't have to pay US citizens for that... |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:25 PM |
#155 |
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Uh-huh.... |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:02 PM |
#145 |
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I don't know |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:33 PM |
#161 |
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Deal can go to hell. And take Dane with him. |
aquart |
May-26-09 02:49 PM |
#9 |
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Sounds reasonable to you, does it? |
Hugabear |
May-26-09 02:53 PM |
#11 |
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There are several ways nations determine citizenship, |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:16 PM |
#23 |
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Sounds perfectly reasonable. |
Lance_Boyle |
May-26-09 02:56 PM |
#12 |
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My wife gave birth In China |
Blue Meany |
May-26-09 03:01 PM |
#14 |
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See Post #11 |
Hugabear |
May-26-09 04:12 PM |
#22 |
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That is a false claim. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:40 PM |
#29 |
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Why should the Dutch be able to disregard our drug laws? |
closeupready |
May-26-09 10:54 PM |
#71 |
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Can we give you the "reasonable" job of Official Identifier Of Fathers then /nt |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:27 PM |
#156 |
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Perhaps you and your wife have something you should talk about... |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:36 PM |
#162 |
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Most countries have a national health care system |
jberryhill |
May-28-09 09:49 AM |
#210 |
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That dimwit is MY Rep! He's a do nothing AH! You know he used to be |
napi21 |
May-26-09 02:59 PM |
#13 |
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What would that change? The baby would still be in this country, |
ecstatic |
May-26-09 03:04 PM |
#16 |
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How so? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:47 PM |
#31 |
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Yes. Notice the amount of undocumented workers has declined sharply |
ecstatic |
May-26-09 06:17 PM |
#43 |
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I don't see a connection between the points you're listing |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:21 PM |
#45 |
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Sorry for the confusion. I'm saying that people |
ecstatic |
May-27-09 12:44 AM |
#74 |
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Thank you. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:00 AM |
#75 |
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So if a baby is born here and we don't recognize her citizenship because of her parents' status |
Hello_Kitty |
May-26-09 03:08 PM |
#17 |
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The vast majority of coutries |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:53 PM |
#32 |
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Except for the ones that don't. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
May-26-09 06:02 PM |
#36 |
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What "ones that don't"? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:08 PM |
#39 |
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YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THE FATHER OF A BABY |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:06 PM |
#147 |
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What a stupid criticism based on a problem |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:37 PM |
#164 |
| -
Obsession? |
jberryhill |
May-28-09 08:39 AM |
#208 |
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If this were part of an effective, comprehensive legislation aimed at |
Zorra |
May-26-09 03:11 PM |
#18 |
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It's neither. It's about 2010. He's got an election to win. |
EFerrari |
May-26-09 03:13 PM |
#19 |
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What do you mean"It's neither." |
kristopher |
May-26-09 05:56 PM |
#33 |
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What part of electioneering is unclear to you? |
EFerrari |
May-26-09 05:58 PM |
#34 |
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There were no insults in my post. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:12 PM |
#41 |
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What false argument? Today, Republicans are raising money |
EFerrari |
May-27-09 03:02 PM |
#118 |
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You are still off topic. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:05 PM |
#124 |
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Not at all. I'm not off topic. Your premise is false. |
EFerrari |
May-27-09 04:18 PM |
#125 |
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Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaase read a history book. nt |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:24 PM |
#128 |
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I have my history straight, thanks. |
EFerrari |
May-27-09 04:32 PM |
#130 |
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... |
varelse |
May-27-09 01:48 PM |
#104 |
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It wasn't meant to automatically give citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
May-26-09 03:14 PM |
#20 |
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Hmmm |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:07 PM |
#38 |
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The 14th amendment was for the protection of the children born not the parents. |
county worker |
May-26-09 06:11 PM |
#40 |
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That isn't true. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:16 PM |
#42 |
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How so? |
county worker |
May-27-09 10:54 AM |
#82 |
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The question what was the original intent of Sec. 1 Ammendment 14 |
kristopher |
May-27-09 12:40 PM |
#88 |
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No it wasn't. The question is, can a law passed now change the |
county worker |
May-27-09 02:22 PM |
#108 |
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The first sentence of the XIV amendment was there for a |
Thothmes |
May-26-09 06:24 PM |
#46 |
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read on |
county worker |
May-27-09 10:55 AM |
#83 |
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You are arguing a red herring |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:01 PM |
#89 |
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I've shown you that you can't change that with a law. |
county worker |
May-27-09 02:24 PM |
#111 |
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You still don't get it. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:21 PM |
#126 |
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You apparently don't understand contsitutional law vs. codified law. n/t |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 06:17 PM |
#137 |
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You are the one making uninformed broad generalizations. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 09:32 PM |
#142 |
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You've made claims that infer a constitutional provision |
WeDidIt |
May-28-09 05:42 AM |
#203 |
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I would rather let my 3 year old granddaughter take out my |
Libertyfirst |
May-26-09 03:49 PM |
#21 |
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WOW!!! |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:19 PM |
#44 |
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I just love when conservatives adopt a "strict constructionist" view... |
colinmom71 |
May-26-09 06:02 PM |
#35 |
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There have been two lawsuits that went to the Supreme Court. |
kristopher |
May-26-09 06:25 PM |
#47 |
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Now you're citing BIRTHER BULLSHIT |
WeDidIt |
May-26-09 07:33 PM |
#54 |
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What "birther bullshit"? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:29 PM |
#66 |
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No citations and spouting off Birther bullshit as your evidence |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 08:19 AM |
#76 |
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Deleted message |
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May-27-09 12:29 PM |
#85 |
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Again, citation |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 02:42 PM |
#114 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-27-09 04:22 PM |
#127 |
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By "birther bullshit", he refers to the Obama Birth Conspiracy Folks |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:11 PM |
#150 |
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Thank you |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:39 PM |
#165 |
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"I'll keep an eye on you." |
snooper2 |
May-27-09 11:07 AM |
#84 |
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... |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:24 PM |
#98 |
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You knew it was going to come up in this thread, though dincha? |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:09 PM |
#149 |
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Larf - Go read the real law at Obamaconspiracy.org, Birther /nt |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:07 PM |
#148 |
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This has nothing to do with Obama nor the claims regarding his birth |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:46 PM |
#166 |
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Your failure to cite the precedent to which you refer |
jberryhill |
May-28-09 08:37 AM |
#207 |
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I believe this is called picking nits. Has this asshole ever read the |
walldude |
May-26-09 10:03 PM |
#62 |
| -
Do you really consider that a rebuttal? |
kristopher |
May-26-09 10:25 PM |
#64 |
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And once again a Repuke reveals his utter unfamiliarity with the Constitution. |
Vickers |
May-27-09 08:23 AM |
#78 |
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How so? |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:10 PM |
#92 |
| -
Great! An underclass that can be exploited permanently! |
dendrobium |
May-27-09 09:37 AM |
#81 |
| -
We used to use Puerto Ricans for that purpose in this country |
old mark |
May-27-09 12:38 PM |
#87 |
| -
How is that related to how citizenship is passed on? |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:21 PM |
#96 |
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People born in Puerto Rico ARE US citizens - I don't know why you are fighting when people |
old mark |
May-27-09 02:23 PM |
#109 |
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Sorry |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:32 PM |
#131 |
| -
That has to do with immmigration policy. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:16 PM |
#94 |
| -
dendrobium made an apt point about "citizens of nowhere" |
suffragette |
May-28-09 01:27 AM |
#190 |
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I didn't say it wasn't. |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:45 AM |
#194 |
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That is a problem that would be a direct result of what you advocate |
suffragette |
May-28-09 01:56 AM |
#198 |
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It is a narrow issue in the scheme of the immigration problem |
kristopher |
May-28-09 02:04 AM |
#201 |
| -
It is a potential negative effect of a policy you advocate |
suffragette |
May-28-09 02:10 AM |
#202 |
| -
Another distraction designed to fire up the racist redneck base. |
Ganja Ninja |
May-27-09 01:10 PM |
#91 |
| -
How is it "racist crap"? |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:18 PM |
#95 |
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14th amendment n/t |
WeDidIt |
May-27-09 02:43 PM |
#115 |
| -
what a masturbatory crock....good luck getting THAT amendment past the dream stage |
Blue_Tires |
May-27-09 01:39 PM |
#100 |
| -
Why respond with name calling? |
kristopher |
May-27-09 01:45 PM |
#102 |
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i understand what you are trying to say |
Blue_Tires |
May-27-09 02:14 PM |
#106 |
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Of course it wouldn't be retroactive. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:40 PM |
#132 |
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Children born and raised here, knowing no other home |
varelse |
May-27-09 01:57 PM |
#105 |
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See post #132 |
kristopher |
May-27-09 04:42 PM |
#133 |
| -
Ummm it wouldn't need to be retroactive to have this effect |
varelse |
May-27-09 07:01 PM |
#140 |
| -
Did you read post 132? |
kristopher |
May-27-09 09:48 PM |
#143 |
| -
Is this the one that wants to fuck a mule, or the other one? |
Vickers |
May-27-09 02:24 PM |
#110 |
| -
I know whose campaign fund will be getting *my* money :P |
varelse |
May-27-09 06:55 PM |
#139 |
| -
What a bunch of crap. |
hunter |
May-27-09 02:37 PM |
#112 |
| -
I agree with him. n/t |
konnichi wa |
May-27-09 03:29 PM |
#119 |
| -
Pandering to the lowest common denominator... |
LanternWaste |
May-27-09 04:29 PM |
#129 |
| -
Ain't gonna happen.... |
Joe the Liberal |
May-27-09 05:14 PM |
#134 |
| -
i've thought about that myself |
libodem |
May-27-09 05:26 PM |
#135 |
| -
Food for Thought |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:30 PM |
#157 |
| -
It happens all the time everywhere in the world. |
kristopher |
May-27-09 11:47 PM |
#168 |
| -
Not At The Rate It Happens Here |
jberryhill |
May-28-09 08:34 AM |
#205 |
| -
What the hell? Is this an April Fools joke that got lost? Someone at DU thinks |
McCamy Taylor |
May-27-09 10:01 PM |
#144 |
| -
That's an ignorant assessment of the discussion |
kristopher |
May-28-09 12:02 AM |
#173 |
| -
Nathan Deal, Georgia Asshat, Thinks Fathers Are Known At Birth |
jberryhill |
May-27-09 10:16 PM |
#151 |
| -
I'd prefer to keep jus soli |
fishwax |
May-27-09 10:22 PM |
#153 |
| -
This is "reasonable"? I've heard it all on DU |
Uzybone |
May-27-09 11:36 PM |
#163 |
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14th amendment and international law |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 12:58 AM |
#181 |
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What does international law have to do with it? nt |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:19 AM |
#187 |
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We are signatories to plenty of treaties that deal with this |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 01:26 AM |
#189 |
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The UN Conventions on Human Rights |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:37 AM |
#191 |
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Metternich and the origin of the nation state. |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 01:48 AM |
#195 |
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Thanks, I'll look that stuff over. |
kristopher |
May-28-09 01:55 AM |
#197 |
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While you are at it look up NAFTA and side agreements |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-28-09 02:02 AM |
#200 |
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Indirectly, Yes... |
jberryhill |
May-28-09 09:45 AM |
#209 |
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I'm dead against this. |
TheKentuckian |
May-28-09 02:02 AM |
#199 |
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