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Sun May-24-09 10:41 PM
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| 19. Don't kid yourselves. |
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We have enough Democrats to pass health-care and other programs for the people. The sad fact of the matter is that there are just a few weasels that will side with the other Party and vote against what we have been fighting for, for almost three generations. If you think it is not possible or that we are not deserving, then it really doesn't matter, does it?
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| -The two words that scare DUers more than any others? |
kentuck |
May-24-09 10:14 PM |
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"Third party" is a waste of time. The formula is simple: |
Buzz Clik |
May-24-09 10:19 PM |
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That's the idea ! |
kentuck |
May-24-09 10:23 PM |
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That works for me. |
Buzz Clik |
May-24-09 10:25 PM |
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That's exactly what William Greider said |
zeos3 |
May-25-09 12:49 AM |
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I'm forced to conclude that sticking with either major party is the real waste. The thing that |
salguine |
May-24-09 10:29 PM |
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The ONLY way to beat an incumbent is within the party. |
Buzz Clik |
May-24-09 10:39 PM |
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CT 2006 n/t |
Greyhound |
May-24-09 10:52 PM |
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DLC/Emmanuel is busy hatching more Blue Dogs as candidates . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:36 PM |
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This comes under the heading of . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 10:38 PM |
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Uh, yeah. That's why Lieberman was out on his ass. |
Buzz Clik |
May-24-09 10:44 PM |
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Liebereman is "out" . . . where ... ?? |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:28 PM |
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Oh. We're having one of those arguments where you get to reframe your comments... |
Buzz Clik |
May-25-09 09:12 AM |
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You've ignored the biggest obstacle, the party apparatus itself. |
Greyhound |
May-24-09 10:47 PM |
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Although... |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-25-09 08:25 AM |
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It's seemed to me for a long time that progressives (and pretty much everyone |
salguine |
May-24-09 10:26 PM |
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Thanks salguine. |
kentuck |
May-24-09 10:29 PM |
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Your post has inspired me to drop them a note.. |
snowdays |
May-24-09 10:35 PM |
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At the least . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 10:40 PM |
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I registered as a Democrat in response to the nomination of Idiot Frat Boy. |
Greyhound |
May-24-09 11:00 PM |
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agreed. nt |
tomp |
May-25-09 09:05 AM |
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"Susan Boyle?" eom |
hyphenate |
May-24-09 10:27 PM |
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We Desperately Need A Brand New Party |
MannyGoldstein |
May-24-09 10:28 PM |
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We have the base of the Party already. |
kentuck |
May-24-09 10:33 PM |
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And very few outings are planned without a Plan B . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 10:43 PM |
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It's also curious that Labor and Women's groups haven't come together . . .??? |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:31 PM |
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Doesn't scare me in the least. And I fearlessly say: fuck Nader, fuck Nader voters. |
BlooInBloo |
May-24-09 10:30 PM |
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Who said anything about "Nader"...?? |
kentuck |
May-24-09 10:36 PM |
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I did. Two posts up. |
BlooInBloo |
May-24-09 10:56 PM |
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You really need to . . .. |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:07 PM |
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You're beating your head against a brick brain, n/t |
Greyhound |
May-25-09 01:47 AM |
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agreed. nt |
tomp |
May-25-09 09:06 AM |
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The bravery staggers! |
Forkboy |
May-25-09 08:23 AM |
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yes, it has been. |
snowdays |
May-24-09 10:31 PM |
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Doesnt scare me |
DJ13 |
May-24-09 10:35 PM |
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Doesnt' scare me either |
IDFbunny |
May-25-09 02:07 AM |
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the progressive party. i'm there. nt |
tomp |
May-25-09 09:07 AM |
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For one . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 10:36 PM |
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Don't kid yourselves. |
kentuck |
May-24-09 10:41 PM |
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Not just a "few". |
dgibby |
May-24-09 10:59 PM |
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K&R ... |
waiting for hope |
May-24-09 10:53 PM |
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Assume we have a third party right now. |
Gregorian |
May-24-09 10:56 PM |
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For one thing the "media" get 80% of the campaign funds . . .!!! |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:23 PM |
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Take what we have both said, and combine it. |
Gregorian |
May-25-09 12:14 AM |
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the first term of a successful third party would be ENTIRELY about... |
tomp |
May-25-09 09:11 AM |
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With IRV a third party is FANTASTIC, otherwise it's STUPID. |
Festivito |
May-24-09 11:06 PM |
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Instant Runoff Voting and Same Day Registration are great tools for third parties. |
wildeyed |
May-25-09 07:39 AM |
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We don't need to leave, we need to kick the corporate dems out. |
anonymous171 |
May-24-09 11:10 PM |
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Unfortunately, Obama has just taken the DLC/corporate wing into the White House!!! |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:35 PM |
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We are the party of FDR, WJC, and BHO. |
IDFbunny |
May-25-09 02:10 AM |
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We've also been letting the Democrats know we want an end to computer voting . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-24-09 11:38 PM |
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Do you plan to win elections with the third party? |
creeksneakers2 |
May-24-09 11:44 PM |
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The Third Party is the Democrat Party. |
kentuck |
May-25-09 12:14 AM |
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Bingo. We just need to take back the second Party. |
Truth2Tell |
May-25-09 12:19 AM |
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The party belongs to those who have bought and paid for it.. |
Fumesucker |
May-25-09 02:33 AM |
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Only 3rd? |
notesdev |
May-25-09 02:23 AM |
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A lot of the once faithful are talking this way |
emsimon33 |
May-25-09 03:07 AM |
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"Democrats" are creating a politcal vaccum by pandering to the right and corporate money |
depakid |
May-25-09 03:25 AM |
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I thought it was 3 words, President Jeb Bush |
MiniMe |
May-25-09 03:35 AM |
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Really? Is that all you got? |
JNelson6563 |
May-25-09 06:31 AM |
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I'm not scared of a "third party". |
ColbertWatcher |
May-25-09 06:32 AM |
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I've been an indie for a decade now, but vote dem locally |
Echo In Light |
May-25-09 08:30 AM |
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Third party, eh? How did that John Anderson presidency work out? Ross Perot? |
Wednesdays |
May-25-09 09:19 AM |
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Being somewhat recent NY voter, fascinated by cross-endorsing minor parties--WFP |
Snazzy |
May-25-09 09:20 AM |
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Working Families Party is not really a third party, but it might be a good model |
HamdenRice |
May-25-09 09:25 AM |
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true except when the Dems are really conservatives |
mdmc |
May-25-09 09:39 AM |
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Two-word rebuttal: Reform Party |
derby378 |
May-25-09 09:25 AM |
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we need a party that answers to US. |
snot |
May-25-09 09:27 AM |
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I'm pretty confident we will get a health care plan, but not the single payer plan many DUers want |
book_worm |
May-25-09 09:45 AM |
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California Peggy |
Catshrink |
May-25-09 09:53 AM |
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locking |
maddezmom |
May-25-09 09:55 AM |
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