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Badgerman Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:46 AM
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Geithner Adopts Part of Wall Street Derivatives Plan
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Source: Bloomberg

May 23 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Treasury’s plan to regulate the over-the-counter derivatives market outlined by Secretary Timothy Geithner on May 13 contains recommendations similar to those made by Goldman Sachs Group Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Credit Suisse Group AG and Barclays Plc three months earlier.

The banks sent the Treasury a plan written in February titled “Outline of Potential OTC Derivatives Legislative Proposal,” saying the Federal Reserve should extend capital and margin requirements to companies and hedge funds that trade in the $592 trillion unregulated market, according to a document obtained by Bloomberg News and confirmed by the Treasury. Energy companies, corporations and hedge funds don’t face such requirements now, while banks do under central bank oversight.

“The banks appear to wish to maintain the intra-dealer market and raise barriers to new entrants to keep the OTC business as compartmentalized as possible and to protect their profitable market conditions,” said Brad Hintz, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. in New York. “The Street’s lobbyists appear to be asking for a ‘club’ structure in OTC trading.”

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=anm...



Could be the final straw in the bundle of 'proofs' that this administrations economic policy is run completely by the creatures that created the mess. Geithner agrees that an exclusive club made up of the largest beneficiaries of our tax dollar bailout should be established. Further that their 'profitable market conditions' need these things to protect them.

Read the whole article and if you have some anti-nausea pills laying around I suggest you take an overdose...this is some of the sickest crap yet! The next logical steps this bunch will take would be to allow waterboarding by local police agencies, and the complete removal of all public health-care for women and children (in order to save to pay for continuing Wall St bailouts).

This crap has got to be stopped NOW, Obama and anyone else supporting these sort of programs and policies have got to have all the pressure that can possibly brought to bear placed on them. People must be made aware that this isn't a Dem vs Them situation, money truly does OWN this country today, we cannot outspend them, but we still have enough health and energy to stop them (and those resources are rapidly dwindling).
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  -Geithner Adopts Part of Wall Street Derivatives Plan Badgerman  May-24-09 07:46 AM   #0 
  - K&R  Hugin   May-24-09 07:53 AM   #1 
  - a slick and vast political aparatus fully owned by big banks-sorry no one is stopping it  natrat   May-24-09 08:00 AM   #2 
  - The scam continues...  notesdev   May-24-09 08:01 AM   #3 
  - appears to be so...  kentuck   May-24-09 01:15 PM   #30 
  - Could you be specific?  sandnsea   May-24-09 08:03 AM   #4 
  - Yes, good question. What alternative do you propose? nt  D-Lee   May-24-09 08:22 AM   #7 
  - Did you see that we are  femrap   May-24-09 10:05 PM   #45 
     - 3/4 of the notional of those derivs are interest rate swaps.  Lucky Luciano   May-24-09 10:51 PM   #50 
        - You are still betting on something and still can get "too big to fail." Besides, nothing requires  No Elephants   May-25-09 06:52 AM   #55 
        - And CDS are so  femrap   May-25-09 10:26 AM   #62 
  - My proposal is simple  AllentownJake   May-24-09 08:31 AM   #11 
  - Given what has happened with AIG, it's ridiculous that your suggestion  Telly Savalas   May-24-09 12:39 PM   #28 
  - That is an EXCELLENT suggestion imho! n/t  Badgerman   May-24-09 02:06 PM   #34 
  - Aren't insurance products regulated by the states?  creeksneakers2   May-24-09 09:22 PM   #40 
     - The federal government did a worse job regulating derivatives, Madoff and other "Ponzis" than states  No Elephants   May-25-09 07:03 AM   #56 
     - They WERE regulated by both state and federal  HillbillyBob   May-25-09 08:04 AM   #59 
        - To some extent the mortgages, but the States have no regulatory say on derivatives. n/t  Badgerman   May-25-09 08:59 AM   #60 
  - What is really happening here  notesdev   May-24-09 08:53 AM   #12 
     - You're not the OP - but again  sandnsea   May-24-09 12:18 PM   #26 
     - I am the OP and I agree with you: further you are consistent with the article. n/t  Badgerman   May-24-09 08:01 PM   #38 
     - It only says that the banks proposed elements of the plan  creeksneakers2   May-24-09 09:28 PM   #42 
        - Read the whole article? At DU??  sandnsea   May-24-09 10:27 PM   #48 
        - Go ahead and read it  notesdev   May-25-09 02:06 AM   #51 
           - It isn't rigged to create a cartel structure  creeksneakers2   May-25-09 09:58 AM   #61 
  - Whatchagonnado? Have a massive write-in; beg the President to fire the guy?  Deja Q   May-24-09 08:05 AM   #5 
  - How 'bout a National Strike?  clear eye   May-24-09 08:25 AM   #9 
     - Convince people.  Deja Q   May-24-09 08:27 AM   #10 
        - A little leadership would go a long way.  clear eye   May-24-09 08:59 AM   #14 
           - they killed wellstone, the last chance for a populist leader  natrat   May-24-09 10:58 AM   #20 
           - I'm not suggesting any one person take point.  clear eye   May-24-09 11:14 AM   #24 
           - They all fight with each other  creeksneakers2   May-24-09 09:39 PM   #43 
           - Groups don't like to yield power over themselves, any more than do  No Elephants   May-25-09 06:45 AM   #54 
  - Aarrggh!  clear eye   May-24-09 08:14 AM   #6 
  - health companies& Insurance companies  pjt7   May-24-09 08:23 AM   #8 
     - I did not know that. That should definitely be banned. For one thing,  No Elephants   May-25-09 07:09 AM   #57 
  - nothing here move along  natrat   May-24-09 08:56 AM   #13 
  - Is it possible that the missing cash has been reinfused into the market in order to prop it up?  Old Hob   May-24-09 09:21 AM   #15 
     - Interesting theory, but  clear eye   May-24-09 10:01 AM   #17 
  - This would be a text book case of a knee jerk reaction  NJmaverick   May-24-09 09:29 AM   #16 
  - Not to mention  sandnsea   May-24-09 12:19 PM   #27 
     - Greenspan didn't even  femrap   May-24-09 10:09 PM   #47 
  - These are nothing but gambling schemes and have no place in an actual  mbperrin   May-24-09 10:20 AM   #18 
  - Economic activity requires risk, in other words, gambling  creeksneakers2   May-24-09 09:50 PM   #44 
     - Risk and gambling are two very different things.  mbperrin   May-25-09 02:06 PM   #65 
     - It transfers risk to someone who can handle it  creeksneakers2   May-25-09 03:12 PM   #66 
        - Right, it only transfers risk. The system as a whole takes a loss, rather  mbperrin   May-26-09 07:03 PM   #68 
     - Read that previous Regs were gutted by the 1999 law promoted by the SEC  clear eye   May-25-09 03:53 PM   #67 
  - Geithner is strengthening the dam, until the coup is complete.  mia   May-24-09 10:37 AM   #19 
  - That's a choice they make.  clear eye   May-24-09 10:59 AM   #21 
     - Is our President solidifying the control of the economic elite?  mia   May-24-09 11:06 AM   #22 
     - I'm not in the sessions in the White House so I can't answer  clear eye   May-24-09 01:07 PM   #29 
        - Thank you for your insights and suggestions.  mia   May-24-09 07:50 PM   #37 
        - Excellent points. thanks n/t  Badgerman   May-25-09 01:36 PM   #63 
     - Good posts Clear Eye  pjt7   May-24-09 11:11 AM   #23 
     - I think those answers have to come from geniuses like Stiglitz & Roubini.  clear eye   May-24-09 11:44 AM   #25 
        - there is a pretty big grass roots movement for the fed bill  pjt7   May-24-09 01:36 PM   #33 
     - fdr was a member of the economic elite.  Hannah Bell   May-25-09 07:16 AM   #58 
  - New boss, meet the real bosses.  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-24-09 01:19 PM   #31 
  - Ha! We'd need an opposition party to stop it.  upi402   May-24-09 01:22 PM   #32 
  - I AM the Opposition Party !  bvar22   May-24-09 02:59 PM   #35 
     - If 15% of our population just quit playing their game, it would collapse for good  Greyhound   May-25-09 05:10 AM   #52 
  - Amen  debunkthelies   May-24-09 04:59 PM   #36 
  - Change we can believe in!  Hawkowl   May-24-09 08:09 PM   #39 
  - Yeah, because the Federal Reserve did such a good job of regulating the banks on OTC derivatives.  JackRiddler   May-24-09 09:28 PM   #41 
  - Money was controlling this  creeksneakers2   May-24-09 10:09 PM   #46 
  - I am so disappointed  farmboxer   May-24-09 10:51 PM   #49 
  - "The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house".  Greyhound   May-25-09 05:18 AM   #53 
  - geithner *IS* the Wall Street plan.  leftofthedial   May-25-09 01:38 PM   #64 
 

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