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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 02:26 PM
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30. Now you want to talk about Dennis Kucinich? I thought we were discussing
the "demise of conservatism"?

I do like DK and most of what he stands for, especially that he does stand for what he believes, but he is hardly the issue in your post. My family are/were all old-school Republiks and I've known many, many over the years, and as you might guess, had many many debates with them over a variety of issues.

George Bush and his Republik Party are not conservatives, they are extremist oligarchs that have pushed out the conservatives while co-opting the word conservative. Like Specter, those conservatives have gone to the party that remains, but they are still conservatives. They fear and resist change, they seek to conserve a system that has benefited them and care little that that benefit has come at the expense and detriment to millions of their fellow Americans and billions of others around the world.

Your definition of Barack Obama as a left-leaning pragmatist is entirely subjective and utterly meaningless outside the US. In any nation of Europe, for example, he is a hard-line conservative along the lines of Sarkozy.


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  -Are We Ready to Say that "Conservatives" Are Dead Yet? Cary  May-22-09 03:31 PM   #0 
  - No, they still seem to have enough influence to push Obama right  DJ13   May-22-09 03:36 PM   #1 
  - I'm thinking you have that wrong.  Cary   May-22-09 03:44 PM   #7 
     - .......and healthcare is going to be a biggie.  DJ13   May-22-09 03:51 PM   #11 
        - I too am for single payer.  Cary   May-22-09 03:53 PM   #13 
           - He can't get it if he doesn't ask for it  GreenArrow   May-22-09 07:50 PM   #27 
              - The asking happens behind the scenes.  Cary   May-22-09 08:15 PM   #28 
  - They're still alive and well in the US Senate  depakid   May-22-09 03:37 PM   #2 
  - By Conservative you mean Radical?  Iggo   May-22-09 03:37 PM   #3 
  - Radical right extremists. Yes. n/t  Cary   May-22-09 03:45 PM   #8 
     - You know in the horror movies  spoony   May-22-09 04:37 PM   #21 
  - I just got out the Ouija board and the ghost of Gerald Ford said...  mitchum   May-22-09 03:40 PM   #4 
  - I believe they're simply disoriented.  timtom   May-22-09 03:43 PM   #5 
  - If they can't change, what future do they have? n/t  Cary   May-22-09 03:52 PM   #12 
     - They will continue as they always have.  timtom   May-22-09 05:48 PM   #24 
  - whether they're dead or not I wouldn't let your guard down  cbdo2007   May-22-09 03:43 PM   #6 
  - Welcome to DU. I agree.  Norrin Radd   May-22-09 03:46 PM   #9 
  - But they're out of their fucking minds.  Cary   May-22-09 03:51 PM   #10 
     - Oh, yeah I totally agree they're idiots.  cbdo2007   May-22-09 04:32 PM   #20 
  - Voters held the funerals in 2006, and again in 2008 n/t  leftstreet   May-22-09 03:55 PM   #14 
  - Not dead, just calling themselves Democrats.  Greyhound   May-22-09 04:06 PM   #15 
  - I don't see that.  Cary   May-22-09 04:08 PM   #16 
     - LOL.  Greyhound   May-22-09 04:16 PM   #17 
        - I'm glad I'm not as cynical as you are.  Cary   May-22-09 04:20 PM   #18 
           - False hope with no basis in fact is how we get into these messes.  Greyhound   May-22-09 05:01 PM   #22 
              - Experience?  Cary   May-22-09 07:46 PM   #26 
                 - Now you want to talk about Dennis Kucinich? I thought we were discussing  Greyhound   May-23-09 02:26 PM   #30 
  - Nope. If they're down let's keep our boot on their throats.  Forkboy   May-22-09 04:29 PM   #19 
  - Nope...  Xolodno   May-22-09 05:34 PM   #23 
  - Don't underestimate them. They have comeback before...  Dark   May-22-09 06:53 PM   #25 
  - No. Don't forget they own the media.  AlinPA   May-22-09 08:19 PM   #29 
 

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