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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:40 AM
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29. It's NOT parental "rights" ... it's a parental DUTY to act as a guardian of the child's RIGHTS.
I lose may patience with the rhetoric that infers some innate AUTHORITY or POWER attained by a parent over a child's choices and welfare. It just ain't so. Parents, as human beings, have their own "rights" but that does not include some unchecked and unconstrained power over their children - whose RIGHTS are, under a system of governance that purports to protect individual human rights, of higher priority than parental custody.

There's a distinction between rights and entitlements ... and there's an essential need to comprehend WHOSE 'rights' and WHOSE 'entitlements' are being balanced.

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  -parental rights re medical care (Daniel Hauser case) cali  May-20-09 07:40 AM   #0 
  - To those voting yes, If I may. . .  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 07:50 AM   #1 
  - true as all that may be, I don't think it applies to the situation  cali   May-20-09 07:59 AM   #2 
  - The problem of choice is that  The2ndWheel   May-20-09 09:20 AM   #3 
  - This is a VERY tough question from a legal standpoint.  Laelth   May-20-09 09:23 AM   #4 
  - you are correct as the child approaches adulthood  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 09:52 AM   #9 
  - So the state acts and takes the child away from his parents  malaise   May-20-09 02:50 PM   #39 
     - At least they tried.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-20-09 02:57 PM   #40 
  - This is a tough question from a legal standpoint, but it's not about freedom of religion.  Gormy Cuss   May-20-09 09:54 AM   #10 
  - I don't think that's true at all. All children are wards of the state, entrusted to their parents  ThomWV   May-20-09 09:59 AM   #14 
     - My understanding is different.  Laelth   May-20-09 10:08 AM   #19 
        - not completely true.  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 10:10 AM   #20 
           - Due process rights can be violated in an emergency.  Laelth   May-20-09 10:13 AM   #22 
  - In this case, I believe the 'child' has expressed his own desire to stop chemo. Just because he's  sinkingfeeling   May-20-09 09:43 AM   #5 
  - nope. it doesn't count from a legal standpoint.  cali   May-20-09 09:46 AM   #7 
     - reading is the devil's tool. confuses the dear angels with facts, and all.  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 10:03 AM   #16 
  - My friends cousin had juvenile diabetes  DiverDave   May-20-09 09:45 AM   #6 
  - tragic. I agree with you. The child in this case has a 90%+ chance  cali   May-20-09 09:47 AM   #8 
  - and they blamed her for insufficient faith, the bastards.  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 09:54 AM   #11 
     - it's a big issue.  cali   May-20-09 09:57 AM   #12 
        - sigh. . . . See what 8 yrs of bush did to everyone?  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 09:58 AM   #13 
           - it is discouraging. As are the poll responses.  cali   May-20-09 10:11 AM   #21 
           - Quite the reverse. We got 8 years of Bush because of this know-nothing mentality  jgraz   May-20-09 01:32 PM   #37 
              - good points.  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 02:46 PM   #38 
                 - I get that a lot.  jgraz   May-20-09 03:09 PM   #41 
                    - :)  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 03:35 PM   #42 
                       - I get that a lot, too.  jgraz   May-20-09 03:39 PM   #43 
  - Ultimately, will humans exist to serve the state?  The2ndWheel   May-20-09 10:02 AM   #15 
  - absurd. the position of the state in balancing protecting the interests of  cali   May-20-09 10:07 AM   #17 
  - And also inefficient  The2ndWheel   May-20-09 10:17 AM   #23 
     - I have no idea what you're trying to say.  cali   May-20-09 10:32 AM   #24 
  - tell me you are joking. Please.  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 10:08 AM   #18 
     - Why would I be joking?  The2ndWheel   May-20-09 10:33 AM   #26 
        - no, parenting will not become obsolete  cali   May-20-09 10:37 AM   #28 
           - Other than as a taxpayer, I can't think of one  The2ndWheel   May-20-09 11:32 AM   #33 
           - precisely what mandatory skuling is - govt input in the ejukashun of kids  ChairmanAgnostic   May-20-09 11:55 AM   #34 
  - It is murder to withold proven effective treatment for a fatal disease.  endarkenment   May-20-09 10:32 AM   #25 
  - I don't think it's murder, but it is criminal neglect  cali   May-20-09 10:33 AM   #27 
     - criminal neglect resulting in death: negligent homicide. nt.  endarkenment   May-20-09 11:23 AM   #31 
  - It's NOT parental "rights" ... it's a parental DUTY to act as a guardian of the child's RIGHTS.  TahitiNut   May-20-09 10:40 AM   #29 
  - lose your patience at the legal framework because I framed  cali   May-20-09 11:28 AM   #32 
     - Horse shit.  TahitiNut   May-20-09 12:56 PM   #35 
        - you may think the legal system re parental rights is bullshit  cali   May-20-09 01:28 PM   #36 
  - The Danieal Hauser case is cut and dried.  WeDidIt   May-20-09 10:41 AM   #30 

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