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Tue Apr-03-07 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #96 |
| 98. You're putting the cart before the horse. |
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Just because the public thinks PETA's nuts, doesn't mean it's prophetic.
"But okay, find me something post-1982."
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"The bottom line is that people don't have the right to manipulate or to breed dogs and cats ... If people want toys they should buy inanimate objects. If they want companionship they should seek it with their own kind."
-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, "Animals," May/June 1993
"You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV."
-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990.
"Pet ownership is an abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Washingtonian, August 1986
"One day we would like an end to pet shops and breeding animals would pursue their natural lives in the wild."
-Ingrid Newkirk, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990
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| -PETA: FDA Likely Wrong About Wheat Gluten as Sole Source of Pet Food Poisoning |
Purveyor |
Apr-03-07 12:30 PM |
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Yeah, PETA's got some top notch laboratories. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 12:35 PM |
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Whereas Menu Foods does animal testing |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 12:38 PM |
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You're right. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 12:40 PM |
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? |
mhatrw |
Apr-03-07 03:45 PM |
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and PETA is the expert |
turtlensue |
Apr-03-07 12:42 PM |
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Right. Everyone should just keep quiet about this whole thing. |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 12:47 PM |
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oh yes people who threaten violence agaisnt |
turtlensue |
Apr-03-07 12:53 PM |
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Asking questions=propaganda? |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 12:56 PM |
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Ask the magic 8-ball! |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-03-07 12:47 PM |
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I'm glad Peta thinks outside the box |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 12:42 PM |
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Yes, at least they're asking questions and demanding action |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 12:49 PM |
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PETA has a phD in biochemistry? |
turtlensue |
Apr-03-07 12:49 PM |
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Did you even read the OP? |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 12:52 PM |
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well if they can get the Cleveland Clinic to cofirm the dry food problems |
turtlensue |
Apr-03-07 12:55 PM |
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But the FDA DIDN'T find that toxin |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 12:55 PM |
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I agree |
turtlensue |
Apr-03-07 12:57 PM |
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And good for PETA for doing it |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-03-07 12:58 PM |
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Right. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 12:59 PM |
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Do you think pet owners don't already know something else is wrong? |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 01:04 PM |
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I think pet owners, myself included, don't know anything... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:06 PM |
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Obviously. So what's the problem with being clear about that to the public? |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 01:15 PM |
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"They haven't exactly been forthcoming or prompt." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:18 PM |
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The AP had the original story on March 16th |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 01:41 PM |
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That not any indication of any wrong doing. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:47 PM |
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Hmm, did I say it was an indication of wrong doing? |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 02:09 PM |
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Being less than forthcoming and prompt is wrong doing. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 02:38 PM |
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The FDA owes it to the public to tell us whatever they know or |
mhatrw |
Apr-03-07 03:57 PM |
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Yes they do. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 03:59 PM |
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They knew a LOT more than what they've told us a LONG |
mhatrw |
Apr-03-07 05:45 PM |
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Whatever |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 05:01 PM |
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You haven't been following this at all. Have you? |
mhatrw |
Apr-03-07 03:53 PM |
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I have. Have you? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 04:02 PM |
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So a month later they know nothing? |
mhatrw |
Apr-04-07 01:27 AM |
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Do you know what it is? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-04-07 05:23 PM |
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Ever heard of gas chromatography or mass spectrometry? |
mhatrw |
Apr-05-07 03:57 PM |
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Amen. |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 01:00 PM |
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Just so long as PETA's wild-ass guess doesn't lead real scientists away from the cause. |
Zhade |
Apr-03-07 11:25 PM |
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Just make sure they (scientists) aren't in bed with Bush and the FDA |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 12:59 PM |
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How is this a "jumps to conclusions" |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 01:04 PM |
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Yesterday they were asking him to resign. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:11 PM |
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No it isn't. |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 01:18 PM |
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Alright, so they asked some other FDA wonk to resign. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:24 PM |
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Way to prove a point. |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 01:27 PM |
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Thanks. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:28 PM |
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One's self-importance is a laugh track for another. |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 01:31 PM |
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I know I'm laughing. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:33 PM |
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As he should |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 01:22 PM |
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"he clearly isn't qualified to run the FDA." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:25 PM |
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That's the point. NOTHINGS clear |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 01:28 PM |
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But you just said it was clear... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:29 PM |
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Nothings clear as to all the causes of the deaths. |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 02:33 PM |
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And if it's not clear what's causing the deaths... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 02:46 PM |
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They have blamed the chinese wheat gluten |
catgirl |
Apr-04-07 05:30 AM |
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No, I don't think ANYBODY is working on this problem right now -- except |
mhatrw |
Apr-03-07 03:50 PM |
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Aren't you the guy... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 04:04 PM |
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Are you the guy who defends the FDA for knowing nothing a month |
mhatrw |
Apr-04-07 01:29 AM |
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I'm a guy who doesn't partake... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-04-07 05:24 PM |
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So it's a "witch hunt" to demand a halfway competent FDA? |
mhatrw |
Apr-05-07 03:39 PM |
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Interesting, I just checked my bag of Science Diet and it has vit. D3 |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 01:26 PM |
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Cats and dogs cannot produce their own viatmin D |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 02:03 PM |
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In humans: Excessive doses of Vitamin D3 causes toxicity and... |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 02:39 PM |
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Plus more is absorbed from being in the sun |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 02:48 PM |
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That's right |
magellan |
Apr-03-07 05:06 PM |
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PetGuard |
catgirl |
Apr-04-07 05:26 AM |
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I've heard PetGuard is great |
magellan |
Apr-04-07 08:49 AM |
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I'll get that book |
catgirl |
Apr-04-07 10:50 AM |
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No probs! |
magellan |
Apr-04-07 10:56 AM |
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PETA is a rights-advocacy group. all they are doing is asking for answers. |
nashville_brook |
Apr-03-07 02:07 PM |
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According to some - University degree is needed |
truedelphi |
Apr-03-07 02:47 PM |
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Exactly... |
hang a left |
Apr-03-07 12:59 PM |
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My new policy is that every time there's an atni-PETA thread on DU |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 12:44 PM |
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cool |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-03-07 12:48 PM |
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Lobster & chowdah anyone? |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-03-07 12:52 PM |
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I make a donation to Katz's Deli |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Apr-03-07 01:54 PM |
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Don't forget to eat TWO this Friday. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Apr-03-07 05:46 PM |
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oh, on Good Friday |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-03-07 09:05 PM |
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awesome! |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 12:53 PM |
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I agree! PETA's fucking awesome! |
asthmaticeog |
Apr-03-07 12:55 PM |
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PETA criticizes abusers and vivisectors, not euthanizers |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-03-07 12:57 PM |
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but that's not what the media told me! |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 12:59 PM |
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PETA doesn't criticize euthanizers |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 12:58 PM |
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Wrong. No animal groups critize euthanasia if the animal is suffering |
catgirl |
Apr-03-07 01:01 PM |
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Don't forget, they also |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 01:09 PM |
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They do all that? |
HEyHEY |
Apr-03-07 01:17 PM |
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One might be led to believe it, if they read certain remarks made here |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 01:21 PM |
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Reading certain remarks here... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 01:32 PM |
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That goof was Isaac Bashevis Singer |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 04:06 PM |
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one goofball does not a movement make |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 04:15 PM |
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That's true. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 04:24 PM |
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Actually those are facts |
Beacho |
Apr-03-07 02:10 PM |
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Um, yeah...okay. |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 02:44 PM |
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Link please |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 03:50 PM |
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... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 04:29 PM |
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Only one of these advocates not keeping pets at all, and that is from 1982. |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 04:40 PM |
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You're trying to move the goal posts. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 04:54 PM |
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Not embarassed. The public usually lashes out at prophetic voices |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 05:09 PM |
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You're putting the cart before the horse. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 05:19 PM |
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One day I'd like world peace, too. |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 05:22 PM |
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Would you like to see the day... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 05:26 PM |
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I'd like to see us stop thinking of it as "owning" but rather as "caring for" |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 05:31 PM |
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Now you're dodging the question. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-03-07 08:19 PM |
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I don't think she is. |
tofunut |
Apr-03-07 11:18 PM |
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How about a more recent quote from PETA, maybe within the last 10 years? |
PinkyisBlue |
Apr-04-07 12:32 AM |
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What's really funny |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 05:00 PM |
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I wondered about that. I'd enver heard of that author before. |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 05:11 PM |
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That's really the best way |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-03-07 05:24 PM |
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You forgot the ways they abuse feeling, suffering vegetables. And encourage the killing of insects |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 03:38 PM |
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Yeah, but the Humane Society doesn't go into grounds of claiming what is or isn't moral to eat |
YOY |
Apr-03-07 01:24 PM |
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Actually, the Humane Society of the US does encourage a meatless diet |
mycritters2 |
Apr-03-07 03:48 PM |
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what radicals! they must be commie terrorists or something! |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 04:28 PM |
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What kind of "good American" would try to make lifestyle choices for others |
YOY |
Apr-03-07 09:05 PM |
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No that's about cruelty free farming |
YOY |
Apr-03-07 09:04 PM |
#110 |
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Here's your "fluff" |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 05:08 PM |
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Angry vegans on a mission... |
YOY |
Apr-03-07 09:03 PM |
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That you can't post a half-shit retort to. |
flvegan |
Apr-03-07 09:17 PM |
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I posted a half shit in response to your quarter shit |
YOY |
Apr-04-07 10:47 AM |
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My policy is to post a link |
Marie26 |
Apr-03-07 02:29 PM |
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Ok, I'll play |
Corgigal |
Apr-03-07 12:59 PM |
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I don't trust PETA |
Marie26 |
Apr-03-07 01:30 PM |
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Well, I don't trust the FDA |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-03-07 01:35 PM |
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Oh, I'm sure there's already |
Marie26 |
Apr-03-07 01:46 PM |
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Because PETA knows diddly squat. |
Evoman |
Apr-03-07 02:45 PM |
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This is my suspicion as well. nt |
Marie26 |
Apr-03-07 04:14 PM |
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Me neither |
gravity |
Apr-03-07 07:23 PM |
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PETA needs to let the vets and toxicologists do their job. |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-03-07 04:13 PM |
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you don't think any Vets and Lab Techs work with PETA? |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 04:25 PM |
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Friedrich clearly noted that, in a case last year, hypercalcemia occurred in |
PinkyisBlue |
Apr-04-07 12:55 AM |
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And The Fact Remains |
DrunkenMaster |
Apr-03-07 04:33 PM |
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K&R |
Jcrowley |
Apr-03-07 07:02 PM |
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You know, I really thought that this was going to be an anti meat article. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-03-07 07:10 PM |
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Do you actually know people who don't feed cats meat, |
mycritters2 |
Apr-04-07 04:46 PM |
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I had a friend who went vegan and made her cats and dogs vegan as well. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-04-07 04:50 PM |
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My dog is vegan, and perfectly healthy (and great at Rally-O!) |
mycritters2 |
Apr-04-07 05:20 PM |
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I didn't say the girl was bright. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-04-07 05:21 PM |
#129 |
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No, but you did use the plural noun "people" in your post |
mycritters2 |
Apr-04-07 05:25 PM |
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Because I know that if I know one person who's done it... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-04-07 06:42 PM |
#134 |
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Oh Those Silly Little Peta People, What Will They Think Of Next? LOL |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-04-07 05:23 PM |
#131 |
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