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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 11:57 PM
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98. Was Rumsfeld playing dumb with Bush . . . ?
Or was he just purposefully dragging his feet over something he

didn't want to do?

Despite how necessary that it be done...

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  -Rumsfeld kept rescue choppers from Katrina cal04  May-17-09 11:25 AM   #0 
  - Rumsfield must be tried in court for this.  sakabatou   May-17-09 11:31 AM   #1 
  - Yet, he won't  Horse with no Name   May-17-09 10:49 PM   #50 
  - Just incredible  MountainLaurel   May-17-09 11:31 AM   #2 
  - to be fair  left is right   May-17-09 01:27 PM   #17 
     - Your daughter's information about the years of warnings about the levees is spot on.  pacalo   May-17-09 04:28 PM   #32 
  - ..And if we had had a decent "decider" he never would have been premitted this kind of power.  MichiganVote   May-17-09 11:31 AM   #3 
  - The TX chimp couldn't decide what kind of sandwich to eat.  madeline_con   May-17-09 11:33 AM   #5 
     - Delusional. Better figureheads were available.  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:20 AM   #59 
  - The Frank Rich you linked to is not about NOLA. nt  madeline_con   May-17-09 11:32 AM   #4 
  - Neither is the GQ article - it is about Rumsfeld  csziggy   May-17-09 02:31 PM   #20 
  - That's the first thing I've ever read that showed Bush had a shred of decency;  Liberty Belle   May-17-09 11:34 AM   #6 
  - I dont believe that part of the story  rcrush   May-17-09 11:38 AM   #9 
  - I believe it- Bush was cognizant his image was tarnished,IMO. So from that angle  KittyWampus   May-17-09 12:00 PM   #11 
  - I dunno  rcrush   May-17-09 12:21 PM   #12 
  - Do you remember how bad their response made Bush look?  anonymous171   May-17-09 01:38 PM   #18 
  - That part does rather smell.  burning rain   May-17-09 04:40 PM   #36 
  - Well remember Bush didn't see the news reports until Thursday  Stephanie   May-18-09 08:27 AM   #64 
  - Yes, I also find it this unlike anything I've ever seen or heard before re Bush . . .  defendandprotect   May-18-09 11:59 PM   #99 
  - it's a lie; that's why.  Hannah Bell   May-17-09 03:35 PM   #24 
  - How do you know he didn't make that statement  spiritual_gunfighter   May-18-09 08:09 AM   #62 
  - I was wondering if the unknown advisor was being charitable & glossed over for the writer.  pacalo   May-17-09 04:33 PM   #34 
  - Yes -- and that moment has to be acknowledged . . . but it was tragic . . .  defendandprotect   May-18-09 11:55 PM   #97 
     - By who?  Maru Kitteh   May-19-09 12:30 AM   #106 
     - Do you really think Bush has nothing to do with his father's power nexus?  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 01:00 AM   #108 
        - Perfect. The audacity of power and corruption.  destes   May-19-09 04:35 AM   #109 
           - if you go into the history of india, at least, you'll find that some of the  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 04:46 AM   #110 
              - Yeah, and before that allies of the Moguls......  destes   May-19-09 01:55 PM   #114 
                 - not to my knowledge. but the ancestors of john forbes kerry were huge in both india & china.  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 04:12 PM   #115 
                    - Then we shall hoist them on their own petards.........  destes   May-19-09 07:29 PM   #116 
                       - it's direct descendancy from the drug dealers & slave drivers.  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 11:23 PM   #118 
  - Rummy the Dummy, Baka Skebei, should be tried in court...and neutered  opihimoimoi   May-17-09 11:35 AM   #7 
  - Was Rumsfeld playing dumb with Bush . . . ?  defendandprotect   May-18-09 11:57 PM   #98 
  - Americans died because of the inactions of the Bush administration in Katrina  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-17-09 11:37 AM   #8 
  - EXACTLY!  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   May-18-09 10:48 AM   #74 
  - And we'll never know how many died, either.  CrispyQ   May-18-09 10:55 AM   #76 
  - Don't forget the trains...I never hear anyone talking about them.  MadMaddie   May-19-09 07:34 PM   #117 
  - Arrest Rummy now  Champion Jack   May-17-09 11:51 AM   #10 
  - Could Rumsfeld be Prosecuted For This?  AndyTiedye   May-17-09 12:36 PM   #13 
  - I think Rummy may be the weak link, the first of big fish to fry.  Raksha   May-17-09 05:28 PM   #40 
  - rummy=hate  bdamomma   May-18-09 12:30 PM   #81 
  - Check out those covers at the link  arikara   May-17-09 12:42 PM   #14 
  - I well remember that JFK fired Gen. Edwin Walker ---- yeah . . . guy Oswald supposedly shot at --  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:03 AM   #100 
  - Why the hell are we only finding out about this now? /nt  dorkulon   May-17-09 12:42 PM   #15 
  - Historical rewrite of the Bush* years???  Samantha   May-17-09 11:16 PM   #51 
  - More evidence  izquierdista   May-17-09 01:23 PM   #16 
  - Think "Chucky" nt  glitch   May-17-09 04:49 PM   #37 
  - One piece of BS in the article I disagree with and have articles that would dispute  csziggy   May-17-09 02:29 PM   #19 
  - Thank you for that. Knowing those who were there immediately and being there 2 wks later myself  uppityperson   May-17-09 02:40 PM   #21 
  - I was stuck at the computer but I have gigabytes of articles about Katrina  csziggy   May-17-09 02:58 PM   #22 
  - thank you for posting  cal04   May-17-09 03:36 PM   #25 
  - As an eye-witness to the miles-long caravan of cars with out-of-state license plates  pacalo   May-17-09 04:22 PM   #29 
  - Well, the Red Cross stayed outside for a long time and said it would not endanger their workers.  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-17-09 04:55 PM   #39 
  - It might be worth writing to the author about that. The DUer accounts from NOLA were a testament...  Hekate   May-17-09 09:36 PM   #43 
  - Hekate! Are you all right after the fires?  omega minimo   May-17-09 11:45 PM   #53 
  - Aww, thanks Omega. Yes, we're good until the next one. It gave me asthma, but hey...  Hekate   May-18-09 01:24 AM   #56 
     - So is it safe  omega minimo   May-18-09 01:39 AM   #57 
        - Absolutely, only Reagan's Liberry was never in danger  Hekate   May-18-09 02:39 AM   #60 
  - Given the slant of the article, & given that anyone who was paying attention  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:08 AM   #58 
     - I suspect the GQ article is all about throwing Rummie under the bus  csziggy   May-18-09 10:54 AM   #75 
        - i suspect you're right.  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 03:03 PM   #89 
  - IT. WAS. GENOCIDE...................... TELEVISED. RACIST. GENOCIDE.  omega minimo   May-17-09 11:44 PM   #52 
  - That's my belief -- GOP . . . sexist, racist, homophobic . . .  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:09 AM   #101 
  - FEMA stopped and turned away 18 wheeler trucks full of supplies  KeepItReal   May-17-09 11:52 PM   #54 
     - And, again, we've never had any real investigations of what the  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:11 AM   #102 
  - "Is that the United States of America or some Third World nation..." bullshit.  Hannah Bell   May-17-09 03:32 PM   #23 
  - "Why are DU-ers facilitating bush's history rewrite?" Damn good question. nt  glitch   May-17-09 04:51 PM   #38 
  - K&R  Wednesdays   May-17-09 03:46 PM   #26 
  - You must ask: Who is worse? The doer of the deed or those who will not punish! Think about it. n/t  Badgerman   May-17-09 04:03 PM   #27 
  - The doer of the deeds. We don't know yet about the other, but we do know Rummy et al are evil...  Hekate   May-17-09 09:39 PM   #44 
  - Doers can be insane, to not lock them up or medicate is a concious choice to allow them to continue!  Badgerman   May-18-09 11:28 AM   #77 
  - If nothing is done too the doer of the deed, then those who will not punish, of course.  SammyWinstonJack   May-18-09 05:59 AM   #61 
  - On the other hand, Rumsfield did promote torture, so he's got that going for him.  Uncle Joe   May-17-09 04:09 PM   #28 
  - The GQ article was so well written by Robert Draper -- K&R.  pacalo   May-17-09 04:25 PM   #30 
  - Didn't the Blue Dogs just love Rumsfeld?  Kingofalldems   May-17-09 04:25 PM   #31 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   May-17-09 04:28 PM   #33 
  - Fucking psychopath. He needs to spend more time with his prison cell. n/t  EFerrari   May-17-09 04:36 PM   #35 
  - Delusional is not the word I'd use...  yoyossarian   May-17-09 07:54 PM   #41 
  - I'll never forget calling my (then) Senator, a Republican, and screaming at his staff  Arugula Latte   May-17-09 07:59 PM   #42 
  - I called Bill Gates (am in WA) and did the same thing  uppityperson   May-17-09 10:43 PM   #49 
  - I did that too - glad I'm not the only one  Patiod   May-18-09 09:29 AM   #70 
  - This was a precedent in national emergency non-action by Repugs . . .  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:13 AM   #103 
  - Rumsfeld is a monster in human form--a murdering monster. People need these periodic reminders...  Hekate   May-17-09 09:48 PM   #45 
  - Katrina NOLA was American genocide.  omega minimo   May-17-09 09:59 PM   #46 
  - And the rehabilitation of George Bush's legacy begins...  MilesColtrane   May-17-09 10:08 PM   #47 
  - totally my thought. Which eye-witness is providing this belated testimony, again?  snot   May-17-09 10:34 PM   #48 
  - Someone diverted the choppers that were going to stop the flooding.  Usrename   May-18-09 12:26 AM   #55 
  - They all sat and did nothing . They are all guilty.  peace13   May-18-09 08:26 AM   #63 
  - Bullshit.  LeftHander   May-18-09 08:32 AM   #65 
  - Read the GQ article yesterday  SusanaMontana41   May-18-09 08:50 AM   #66 
  - I call BS on what Shrub allegedly said. NORTHCOM was waiting to be called in by him  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-18-09 09:00 AM   #67 
  - Found a link to BBC video of interview with NORTHCOM officer  suffragette   May-18-09 02:46 PM   #86 
  - Thank you for digging this up. As you can see I was pretty active on that thread and at one  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-18-09 05:59 PM   #94 
     - Thank you again for bringing it up.  suffragette   May-18-09 08:16 PM   #95 
        - Rumsfeld's hands were tied. Shrub had to suspend posse comitatus in order to allow  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-19-09 07:40 AM   #111 
  - Northcom waited while those bastards tried to make political hay out of Blanco  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-18-09 04:54 PM   #93 
  - IIRC everyone was on vacation-staffers had to compile a DVD for Bush to watch  underpants   May-18-09 09:06 AM   #68 
  - "The president cut Rumsfeld to pieces." I call bullshit...  Javaman   May-18-09 09:07 AM   #69 
  - memos will do major damage to our relationship w/Middle Eastern countries  NJCher   May-18-09 09:56 AM   #71 
  - This actually gives me a modicum of respect for GW Bush...  DesertDiamond   May-18-09 10:39 AM   #72 
  - Don't give him too much credit...  JHB   May-19-09 10:07 AM   #112 
  - Add several hundred counts of manslaughter to the  Vidar   May-18-09 10:41 AM   #73 
  - Heads must roll!!!  winyanstaz   May-18-09 11:52 AM   #78 
  - But we can't hang him? What kind of pension is he getting from us?  aquart   May-18-09 11:53 AM   #79 
  - This is patent nonsense about bush having a rant.  ooglymoogly   May-18-09 12:22 PM   #80 
  - Time will tell . . .  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:23 AM   #104 
  - Rumsfeld must have sent to much time at his vacation home Mount Misery  MagickMuffin   May-18-09 01:14 PM   #82 
  - The article says federal troops weren't sent in because rumsfeld didn't  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:29 PM   #83 
  - "The president holds the power"  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:36 PM   #84 
  - Federal troops get limited role in Katrina work  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:41 PM   #85 
     - Bush politicking delayed Nat'l Guard for a WEEK after Katrina  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:59 PM   #87 
        - Blanco spoke DIRECTLY TO BUSH during this turf war:  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 03:02 PM   #88 
  - IIRC you are correct...  windbreeze   May-18-09 03:08 PM   #90 
     - bush had the power to send in federal troops from day one. his father did it for a riot.  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 03:44 PM   #92 
     - A large portion of the National Guard was in Iraq, that was part of the problem  MiniMe   May-18-09 10:24 PM   #96 
        - Right, and moving to a Federal troop system for domestic use would simply FREE UP more troops  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:26 AM   #105 
        - Nothing to do with it. Special federal units (not NG) have capability to deploy  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 12:54 AM   #107 
  - Those bastards are ALL responsible. I don't believe for a minute * gave a rats a$$ about any of it.  earth mom   May-18-09 03:32 PM   #91 
  - More reason to keep Rethugs out of office  agentS   May-19-09 10:12 AM   #113 
  - That article isn't exactly accurate...  bdab1973   May-20-09 10:04 AM   #119 

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