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Rumsfeld kept rescue choppers from Katrina
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by SteinL
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/17/732410/-Rumsfel...

The GQ article about SecDef Rumsfeld is now up. Frank Rich referenced it in today's column.
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_921...

There you'll find the cover pages of the top secret notes Rumsfeld sent to the WH - with biblical quotations above battlefield images.

But you'll also find this:

a final story of Rumsfelds intransigence begins on Wednesday, August 31, 2005. Two days after Hurricane Katrina made landfall in New Orleansand the same day that Bush viewed the damage on a flyover from his Crawford, Texas, retreat back to Washingtona White House advance team toured the devastation in an Air Force helicopter. Noticing that their chopper was outfitted with a search-and-rescue lift, one of the advance men said to the pilot, "Were not taking you away from grabbing people off of rooftops, are we?"

"No, sir," said the pilot. He explained that he was from Floridas Hurlburt Field Air Force baseroughly 200 miles from New Orleanswhich contained an entire fleet of search-and-rescue helicopters. "Im just here because youre here," the pilot added. "My whole units sitting back at Hurlburt, wondering why were not being used."



Choppers with rescue air lift equipment were standing hours away, in the hundreds, and had not been deployed!
And why hadn't the choppers been sent?
Because Rumsfeld was engaged in a turf war, and it would take days before he finally sent in both troops and released the materiel.

The US military had hundreds of rescue choppers with airlift equipment within easy range. As BOHICA points out below, there were people in the military who were shaking with rage at not being allowed to assist.

The article explains:

The search-and-rescue helicopters were not being used because Donald Rumsfeld had not yet approved their deploymenteven though, as Lieutenant General Russ Honor, the cigar-chomping commander of Joint Task Force Katrina, would later tell me, "that Wednesday, we needed to evacuate people. The few helicopters we had in there were busy, and we were trying to deploy more."

Even a singularly obtuse George W Bush began understanding something was wrong, and in the end turned on his recalcitrant SecDef. But would you believe it - still it would take days before Rumsfeld gave the orders.

The article is worth reading in full. Personally I was convinced that Rumsfeld was a deeply delusional man, but the article makes it clear that he was dangerously delusional, and that the Bush presidency has him and Cheney to thank for a legacy that will go down in infamy.

Bush convened a meeting in the Situation Room on Friday morning. According to several who were present, the president was agitated. Turning to the man seated at his immediate left, Bush barked, "Rumsfeld, what the hell is going on there? Are you watching whats on television? Is that the United States of America or some Third World nation Im watching? What the hell are you doing?"

Rumsfeld replied by trotting out the ongoing National Guard deployments and suggesting that sending active-duty troops would create "unity of command" issues. Visibly impatient, Bush turned away from Rumsfeld and began to direct his inquiries at Lieutenant General Honor on the video screen. "From then on, it was a Bush-Honor dialogue," remembers another participant. "The president cut Rumsfeld to pieces. I just wish it had happened earlier in the week."


The battlefield briefing cover sheets with biblical quotations can be seen at the slide-show that GQ has put up. The images are exclusive to them, and I can't place one here.

The article has a link to the cover-sheets mentioned by Frank Rich:
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  -Rumsfeld kept rescue choppers from Katrina cal04  May-17-09 11:25 AM   #0 
  - Rumsfield must be tried in court for this.  sakabatou   May-17-09 11:31 AM   #1 
  - Yet, he won't  Horse with no Name   May-17-09 10:49 PM   #50 
  - Just incredible  MountainLaurel   May-17-09 11:31 AM   #2 
  - to be fair  left is right   May-17-09 01:27 PM   #17 
     - Your daughter's information about the years of warnings about the levees is spot on.  pacalo   May-17-09 04:28 PM   #32 
  - ..And if we had had a decent "decider" he never would have been premitted this kind of power.  MichiganVote   May-17-09 11:31 AM   #3 
  - The TX chimp couldn't decide what kind of sandwich to eat.  madeline_con   May-17-09 11:33 AM   #5 
     - Delusional. Better figureheads were available.  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:20 AM   #59 
  - The Frank Rich you linked to is not about NOLA. nt  madeline_con   May-17-09 11:32 AM   #4 
  - Neither is the GQ article - it is about Rumsfeld  csziggy   May-17-09 02:31 PM   #20 
  - That's the first thing I've ever read that showed Bush had a shred of decency;  Liberty Belle   May-17-09 11:34 AM   #6 
  - I dont believe that part of the story  rcrush   May-17-09 11:38 AM   #9 
  - I believe it- Bush was cognizant his image was tarnished,IMO. So from that angle  KittyWampus   May-17-09 12:00 PM   #11 
  - I dunno  rcrush   May-17-09 12:21 PM   #12 
  - Do you remember how bad their response made Bush look?  anonymous171   May-17-09 01:38 PM   #18 
  - That part does rather smell.  burning rain   May-17-09 04:40 PM   #36 
  - Well remember Bush didn't see the news reports until Thursday  Stephanie   May-18-09 08:27 AM   #64 
  - Yes, I also find it this unlike anything I've ever seen or heard before re Bush . . .  defendandprotect   May-18-09 11:59 PM   #99 
  - it's a lie; that's why.  Hannah Bell   May-17-09 03:35 PM   #24 
  - How do you know he didn't make that statement  spiritual_gunfighter   May-18-09 08:09 AM   #62 
  - I was wondering if the unknown advisor was being charitable & glossed over for the writer.  pacalo   May-17-09 04:33 PM   #34 
  - Yes -- and that moment has to be acknowledged . . . but it was tragic . . .  defendandprotect   May-18-09 11:55 PM   #97 
     - By who?  Maru Kitteh   May-19-09 12:30 AM   #106 
     - Do you really think Bush has nothing to do with his father's power nexus?  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 01:00 AM   #108 
        - Perfect. The audacity of power and corruption.  destes   May-19-09 04:35 AM   #109 
           - if you go into the history of india, at least, you'll find that some of the  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 04:46 AM   #110 
              - Yeah, and before that allies of the Moguls......  destes   May-19-09 01:55 PM   #114 
                 - not to my knowledge. but the ancestors of john forbes kerry were huge in both india & china.  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 04:12 PM   #115 
                    - Then we shall hoist them on their own petards.........  destes   May-19-09 07:29 PM   #116 
                       - it's direct descendancy from the drug dealers & slave drivers.  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 11:23 PM   #118 
  - Rummy the Dummy, Baka Skebei, should be tried in court...and neutered  opihimoimoi   May-17-09 11:35 AM   #7 
  - Was Rumsfeld playing dumb with Bush . . . ?  defendandprotect   May-18-09 11:57 PM   #98 
  - Americans died because of the inactions of the Bush administration in Katrina  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-17-09 11:37 AM   #8 
  - EXACTLY!  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   May-18-09 10:48 AM   #74 
  - And we'll never know how many died, either.  CrispyQ   May-18-09 10:55 AM   #76 
  - Don't forget the trains...I never hear anyone talking about them.  MadMaddie   May-19-09 07:34 PM   #117 
  - Arrest Rummy now  Champion Jack   May-17-09 11:51 AM   #10 
  - Could Rumsfeld be Prosecuted For This?  AndyTiedye   May-17-09 12:36 PM   #13 
  - I think Rummy may be the weak link, the first of big fish to fry.  Raksha   May-17-09 05:28 PM   #40 
  - rummy=hate  bdamomma   May-18-09 12:30 PM   #81 
  - Check out those covers at the link  arikara   May-17-09 12:42 PM   #14 
  - I well remember that JFK fired Gen. Edwin Walker ---- yeah . . . guy Oswald supposedly shot at --  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:03 AM   #100 
  - Why the hell are we only finding out about this now? /nt  dorkulon   May-17-09 12:42 PM   #15 
  - Historical rewrite of the Bush* years???  Samantha   May-17-09 11:16 PM   #51 
  - More evidence  izquierdista   May-17-09 01:23 PM   #16 
  - Think "Chucky" nt  glitch   May-17-09 04:49 PM   #37 
  - One piece of BS in the article I disagree with and have articles that would dispute  csziggy   May-17-09 02:29 PM   #19 
  - Thank you for that. Knowing those who were there immediately and being there 2 wks later myself  uppityperson   May-17-09 02:40 PM   #21 
  - I was stuck at the computer but I have gigabytes of articles about Katrina  csziggy   May-17-09 02:58 PM   #22 
  - thank you for posting  cal04   May-17-09 03:36 PM   #25 
  - As an eye-witness to the miles-long caravan of cars with out-of-state license plates  pacalo   May-17-09 04:22 PM   #29 
  - Well, the Red Cross stayed outside for a long time and said it would not endanger their workers.  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-17-09 04:55 PM   #39 
  - It might be worth writing to the author about that. The DUer accounts from NOLA were a testament...  Hekate   May-17-09 09:36 PM   #43 
  - Hekate! Are you all right after the fires?  omega minimo   May-17-09 11:45 PM   #53 
  - Aww, thanks Omega. Yes, we're good until the next one. It gave me asthma, but hey...  Hekate   May-18-09 01:24 AM   #56 
     - So is it safe  omega minimo   May-18-09 01:39 AM   #57 
        - Absolutely, only Reagan's Liberry was never in danger  Hekate   May-18-09 02:39 AM   #60 
  - Given the slant of the article, & given that anyone who was paying attention  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:08 AM   #58 
     - I suspect the GQ article is all about throwing Rummie under the bus  csziggy   May-18-09 10:54 AM   #75 
        - i suspect you're right.  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 03:03 PM   #89 
  - IT. WAS. GENOCIDE...................... TELEVISED. RACIST. GENOCIDE.  omega minimo   May-17-09 11:44 PM   #52 
  - That's my belief -- GOP . . . sexist, racist, homophobic . . .  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:09 AM   #101 
  - FEMA stopped and turned away 18 wheeler trucks full of supplies  KeepItReal   May-17-09 11:52 PM   #54 
     - And, again, we've never had any real investigations of what the  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:11 AM   #102 
  - "Is that the United States of America or some Third World nation..." bullshit.  Hannah Bell   May-17-09 03:32 PM   #23 
  - "Why are DU-ers facilitating bush's history rewrite?" Damn good question. nt  glitch   May-17-09 04:51 PM   #38 
  - K&R  Wednesdays   May-17-09 03:46 PM   #26 
  - You must ask: Who is worse? The doer of the deed or those who will not punish! Think about it. n/t  Badgerman   May-17-09 04:03 PM   #27 
  - The doer of the deeds. We don't know yet about the other, but we do know Rummy et al are evil...  Hekate   May-17-09 09:39 PM   #44 
  - Doers can be insane, to not lock them up or medicate is a concious choice to allow them to continue!  Badgerman   May-18-09 11:28 AM   #77 
  - If nothing is done too the doer of the deed, then those who will not punish, of course.  SammyWinstonJack   May-18-09 05:59 AM   #61 
  - On the other hand, Rumsfield did promote torture, so he's got that going for him.  Uncle Joe   May-17-09 04:09 PM   #28 
  - The GQ article was so well written by Robert Draper -- K&R.  pacalo   May-17-09 04:25 PM   #30 
  - Didn't the Blue Dogs just love Rumsfeld?  Kingofalldems   May-17-09 04:25 PM   #31 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   May-17-09 04:28 PM   #33 
  - Fucking psychopath. He needs to spend more time with his prison cell. n/t  EFerrari   May-17-09 04:36 PM   #35 
  - Delusional is not the word I'd use...  yoyossarian   May-17-09 07:54 PM   #41 
  - I'll never forget calling my (then) Senator, a Republican, and screaming at his staff  Arugula Latte   May-17-09 07:59 PM   #42 
  - I called Bill Gates (am in WA) and did the same thing  uppityperson   May-17-09 10:43 PM   #49 
  - I did that too - glad I'm not the only one  Patiod   May-18-09 09:29 AM   #70 
  - This was a precedent in national emergency non-action by Repugs . . .  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:13 AM   #103 
  - Rumsfeld is a monster in human form--a murdering monster. People need these periodic reminders...  Hekate   May-17-09 09:48 PM   #45 
  - Katrina NOLA was American genocide.  omega minimo   May-17-09 09:59 PM   #46 
  - And the rehabilitation of George Bush's legacy begins...  MilesColtrane   May-17-09 10:08 PM   #47 
  - totally my thought. Which eye-witness is providing this belated testimony, again?  snot   May-17-09 10:34 PM   #48 
  - Someone diverted the choppers that were going to stop the flooding.  Usrename   May-18-09 12:26 AM   #55 
  - They all sat and did nothing . They are all guilty.  peace13   May-18-09 08:26 AM   #63 
  - Bullshit.  LeftHander   May-18-09 08:32 AM   #65 
  - Read the GQ article yesterday  SusanaMontana41   May-18-09 08:50 AM   #66 
  - I call BS on what Shrub allegedly said. NORTHCOM was waiting to be called in by him  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-18-09 09:00 AM   #67 
  - Found a link to BBC video of interview with NORTHCOM officer  suffragette   May-18-09 02:46 PM   #86 
  - Thank you for digging this up. As you can see I was pretty active on that thread and at one  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-18-09 05:59 PM   #94 
     - Thank you again for bringing it up.  suffragette   May-18-09 08:16 PM   #95 
        - Rumsfeld's hands were tied. Shrub had to suspend posse comitatus in order to allow  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-19-09 07:40 AM   #111 
  - Northcom waited while those bastards tried to make political hay out of Blanco  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-18-09 04:54 PM   #93 
  - IIRC everyone was on vacation-staffers had to compile a DVD for Bush to watch  underpants   May-18-09 09:06 AM   #68 
  - "The president cut Rumsfeld to pieces." I call bullshit...  Javaman   May-18-09 09:07 AM   #69 
  - memos will do major damage to our relationship w/Middle Eastern countries  NJCher   May-18-09 09:56 AM   #71 
  - This actually gives me a modicum of respect for GW Bush...  DesertDiamond   May-18-09 10:39 AM   #72 
  - Don't give him too much credit...  JHB   May-19-09 10:07 AM   #112 
  - Add several hundred counts of manslaughter to the  Vidar   May-18-09 10:41 AM   #73 
  - Heads must roll!!!  winyanstaz   May-18-09 11:52 AM   #78 
  - But we can't hang him? What kind of pension is he getting from us?  aquart   May-18-09 11:53 AM   #79 
  - This is patent nonsense about bush having a rant.  ooglymoogly   May-18-09 12:22 PM   #80 
  - Time will tell . . .  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:23 AM   #104 
  - Rumsfeld must have sent to much time at his vacation home Mount Misery  MagickMuffin   May-18-09 01:14 PM   #82 
  - The article says federal troops weren't sent in because rumsfeld didn't  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:29 PM   #83 
  - "The president holds the power"  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:36 PM   #84 
  - Federal troops get limited role in Katrina work  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:41 PM   #85 
     - Bush politicking delayed Nat'l Guard for a WEEK after Katrina  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 02:59 PM   #87 
        - Blanco spoke DIRECTLY TO BUSH during this turf war:  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 03:02 PM   #88 
  - IIRC you are correct...  windbreeze   May-18-09 03:08 PM   #90 
     - bush had the power to send in federal troops from day one. his father did it for a riot.  Hannah Bell   May-18-09 03:44 PM   #92 
     - A large portion of the National Guard was in Iraq, that was part of the problem  MiniMe   May-18-09 10:24 PM   #96 
        - Right, and moving to a Federal troop system for domestic use would simply FREE UP more troops  defendandprotect   May-19-09 12:26 AM   #105 
        - Nothing to do with it. Special federal units (not NG) have capability to deploy  Hannah Bell   May-19-09 12:54 AM   #107 
  - Those bastards are ALL responsible. I don't believe for a minute * gave a rats a$$ about any of it.  earth mom   May-18-09 03:32 PM   #91 
  - More reason to keep Rethugs out of office  agentS   May-19-09 10:12 AM   #113 
  - That article isn't exactly accurate...  bdab1973   May-20-09 10:04 AM   #119 
 

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