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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:03 AM
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9. Bacus Is Just One Player...
I've been encouraged by what I've heard from Eric Massa and the resolve of House Democrats to have single payer as part of a bill. The House has as much a say as Bachus & the Senate in what is drafted into a final bill...and this is where our voices do have pull.

Yes, Bachus is a toadie of the insurance industry...and there are other Democrats who share his same feelings/contributions. He's not looking for your welfare, he's looking to fill a $5 mil or more tab to stay in the "boys club" and get re-elected. Shameful as it is, but this is the government we have to work with.

In the end, the final bill will be done behind closed doors. They always are. It'll be worked out between Congresscritters over drinks, Senators and lobbyists at drinkie-drinkie parties and through intermediaries and lobbyists. The game here is to get single payer advocates in those final meetings...and to support those in the House who can and will counteract Bachus.

The problem with transparency is the ability for major characters to showboat...play to the cameras and the voters. A Blue Dog from a conservative district can't say publicly what they can in private...it's not all as dark as you may think.

Let us see how this debate plays out. Everyone has a different need and viewpoint in this and the more information that is put out there the better. One thing I think we both agree on is that the current system dominated by the insurance companies need to change...so does the President (or this debate wouldn't happen in the first place)...change will happen. In a democracy our voices...even on a message board are a part of the process. Thank you for being agreeable to be so pleasantly disagreeable...that's what a discussion board should be...or at least I think so.

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  -President Obama has an obligation to deliver on the healthcare reforms he ran on as a candidate. Phoebe Loosinhouse  May-13-09 06:52 AM   #0 
  - I faxed a letter to him the other night and that was one of the points.  Vinca   May-13-09 06:53 AM   #1 
  - What do you think he's doing?  babylonsister   May-13-09 07:03 AM   #2 
  - I am extremely confused about the way the process is proceeding  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-13-09 07:26 AM   #4 
     - So you want to trash him before even knowing what he's doing  babylonsister   May-13-09 07:37 AM   #6 
        - I am not trashing him. I am saying he needs to be front and center using the bully pulpit  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-13-09 07:52 AM   #8 
           - Well, to emphasize your point,  babylonsister   May-13-09 08:06 AM   #10 
              - Thanks, I saw that post and of course commented. But here's what I don't get  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-13-09 08:26 AM   #11 
                 - "Why doesn't President Obama push for his own plan?"  babylonsister   May-13-09 08:42 AM   #14 
                 - As I understand it, Obama gave a blueprint of his 'proposal' in his budget  snowdays   May-13-09 08:58 AM   #15 
                    - Nice of Baucus to use the public option as a "bargaining chip" w/ insurance companies  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-13-09 09:14 AM   #16 
  - Obligation? Is He A Dictator?  KharmaTrain   May-13-09 07:15 AM   #3 
  - Well, the process is well underway and now is the time to voice one's  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-13-09 07:33 AM   #5 
  - Bacus Is Just One Player...  KharmaTrain   May-13-09 08:03 AM   #9 
  - my concern....  gblady   May-13-09 10:47 AM   #17 
     - Concern Noted...  KharmaTrain   May-13-09 11:12 AM   #18 
  - He's working on it. He's already delivered health care to four million additional kids and put forth  WI_DEM   May-13-09 07:45 AM   #7 
  - He was big on 'no mandate'  Bluenorthwest   May-13-09 08:27 AM   #12 
     - That is why at the very MINIMUM there HAS to be a "public option"  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-13-09 08:32 AM   #13 
 

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