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Thu May-14-09 02:58 PM
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| 113. Where do I start? I know. We agree. Is that Okay? |
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Except for the part where you don't seem to understand what I'm writing.
"Additionally, presently, there is a lot of care expenses written off by physicians, surgeons and some hospitals. That'll be billed under single payer."
What I was saying was that at present some doctors and hospitals perform health care services for free, gratis, pro-bono, charity. When there is a single payer system they will have someone to bill for that service and I think they will bill it at the rate allowed by the new plan. Would they arbitrarily not invoice the government for some of their bills when they had a certainty of being paid? Of course not. In that sense this would be "additional health care costs" not already absorbed by the current system.
The rest of your missive is preaching to the choir. I'm all about single payer. I'm sold on it. Hubris me not, I'm on your side. But the "Please do your homework before presenting statements as fact" thing........maybe a bit too much. I do try to be clear. Pitiful effort I'm sure. Perhaps it was the term "written off". In my business it means: written off, as a bad debt, my loss, gratis, non-compensable, etc.
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| -Baucus Arrests Five More Doctors, Nurses, Activists |
davidswanson |
May-12-09 10:09 AM |
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K&R |
valerief |
May-12-09 10:11 AM |
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K&R |
sasquuatch55 |
May-13-09 06:25 AM |
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AWESOME!!! Baucus has no clothes! n/t |
backscatter712 |
May-12-09 10:12 AM |
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the real Max Baucus, a contemptuous corporatist |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-13-09 12:02 AM |
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They are brave souls -fighting for fairness--just to have single-payer on the |
snowdays |
May-12-09 10:12 AM |
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I agree that these professionals are the brave ones. |
midnight |
May-12-09 10:52 AM |
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agreed n/t |
MrsBrady |
May-12-09 12:22 PM |
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K&R |
Echo In Light |
May-12-09 10:13 AM |
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Baucus contact info - for all the good it does |
imdjh |
May-12-09 10:13 AM |
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A real person answers at the Missoula office |
imdjh |
May-12-09 10:18 AM |
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fax baucus |
davidswanson |
May-12-09 10:41 AM |
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also join the Voting Block |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-12-09 09:01 PM |
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Also book mark Prosperity Agenda US |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-13-09 12:05 AM |
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They Either Hang Up on Me or Tell |
otohara |
May-12-09 10:31 AM |
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Don't mind giving them a bad day. They've earned it. |
aquart |
May-12-09 06:10 PM |
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I called Baucus' office in D.C. and finally got through after an hour. |
spartan61 |
May-12-09 10:52 AM |
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They picked up the phone, then disconnnected me. Now it is |
snowdays |
May-12-09 10:54 AM |
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They are not answering. The phone operater asked me |
snowdays |
May-12-09 10:56 AM |
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Helena mailbox is full - |
imdjh |
May-12-09 11:07 AM |
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good job Montana--ians. |
snowdays |
May-12-09 12:59 PM |
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DC answers |
imdjh |
May-12-09 11:08 AM |
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i tried several times today and it keeps ringing and ring........ |
snowdays |
May-12-09 01:00 PM |
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Billings isn't answering either. nt |
imdjh |
May-12-09 01:42 PM |
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Floridians Call Bill Nelson and demand Single Payer |
imdjh |
May-12-09 01:48 PM |
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Tampa answers live |
imdjh |
May-12-09 01:48 PM |
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Senate? Congress? Which? |
aquart |
May-12-09 05:55 PM |
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Thanks for the report |
Bluzmann57 |
May-12-09 10:16 AM |
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"The money would look good in my pocket instead of lining.......... |
destes |
May-12-09 12:36 PM |
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WRONG. |
Doremus |
May-13-09 10:33 AM |
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Here's how I figure it |
destes |
May-13-09 02:06 PM |
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Your statement that taxes will equal current premiums. |
Doremus |
May-13-09 02:29 PM |
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OK, I get it. |
destes |
May-14-09 04:24 AM |
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There are many, many people who could pay Medicare premiums |
Doremus |
May-14-09 08:24 AM |
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Where do I start? I know. We agree. Is that Okay? |
destes |
May-14-09 02:58 PM |
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Okay, I understand. |
Doremus |
May-14-09 04:14 PM |
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Other industrialized countries don't pay that much in taxes. |
Kalyke |
May-13-09 02:38 PM |
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DC rally and lobby day tomorrow |
Luminous Animal |
May-12-09 10:19 AM |
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I hope those in the area will seriously consider attending. |
snowdays |
May-12-09 10:27 AM |
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For those who can't go... |
Luminous Animal |
May-12-09 10:33 AM |
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What a farce. The Kleptocracy uncloaked. |
endarkenment |
May-12-09 10:22 AM |
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I fear you may be correct. n/t |
Daphne08 |
May-12-09 11:45 AM |
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K&R |
Eyerish |
May-12-09 10:32 AM |
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Y'all are missing Carrie Prajean and The Donald! n/t |
Subdivisions |
May-12-09 10:32 AM |
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Single payer not an option. |
dgibby |
May-12-09 10:37 AM |
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Let me state clearly |
davidswanson |
May-12-09 10:43 AM |
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Too many of these people think they're "leaders", not represtantives. |
Marr |
May-12-09 12:07 PM |
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Change We Can Believe In. |
FLAprogressive |
May-12-09 10:50 AM |
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fine tuning, not change - no audacity, no hope! n/t |
change_notfinetuning |
May-12-09 11:09 AM |
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NOT!!! I Wonder How Many Of You Think Like I Do.... IF Single Payer |
ChiciB1 |
May-13-09 09:00 AM |
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K&R - and good for those brave nurses. |
JimWis |
May-12-09 10:47 AM |
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time for big ed radio in the midwest.......it`s going to be interesting |
madrchsod |
May-12-09 11:06 AM |
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Call the REPUBLICANS! Yes, I'm serious |
imdjh |
May-12-09 11:22 AM |
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WOW, just WOW - I googled "republicans for single payer" and guess what? |
imdjh |
May-12-09 11:28 AM |
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Ruplicans lose jobs and health insurance just like us. Thanks. |
snowdays |
May-12-09 12:36 PM |
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Can't hurt. |
aquart |
May-12-09 06:09 PM |
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Such A Waste Of Time And Resources. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-12-09 11:40 AM |
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With all due respect- that's what I said about Obama |
imdjh |
May-12-09 11:56 AM |
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I Appreciate Your Post, But It's A Completely Wrong Analogy. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-12-09 12:00 PM |
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Kucinich stepped on his own crank |
imdjh |
May-12-09 12:06 PM |
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Correct. Not a good way to put it. You sure the hell do NOT want for profit fire deparments |
eridani |
May-13-09 06:00 AM |
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How about the idea that people are going to be LESS likely |
riverdeep |
May-12-09 03:53 PM |
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As the saying goes: "if not now, when?" |
endarkenment |
May-12-09 12:35 PM |
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you're wasting your time... |
druidity33 |
May-12-09 06:01 PM |
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So why are you supporting the insurance industry rather than advocates of Medicare for All? |
Better Believe It |
May-12-09 12:07 PM |
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First Tell Me Why You Eat Babies Boiled In Spinach Leaves And Myrhh Resin. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-12-09 12:37 PM |
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I don't. But why won't you support advocates of Medicare for All who |
Better Believe It |
May-12-09 12:49 PM |
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Ummmmmm, Like, Yeah... Good Luck With That And Stuff... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-12-09 01:16 PM |
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So what progressive health care reform ideas do you have? |
proud2BlibKansan |
May-12-09 12:52 PM |
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I am not going to settle fro crumbs when i can still go for the gold. Stop being |
snowdays |
May-12-09 01:07 PM |
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no. these folks- and the rest of us- need to keep pushing for single payer |
cali |
May-12-09 01:12 PM |
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hope springs eternal nt |
imdjh |
May-12-09 01:42 PM |
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Reality is what we're dealing with as more and more are denied health care... |
TBF |
May-12-09 04:17 PM |
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Not Right Now?? How Long Has This Country Been Talking About |
ChiciB1 |
May-13-09 11:02 AM |
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Hall of Shame Policymakers***.... |
snowdays |
May-12-09 11:52 AM |
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k&r for those of us in Texas |
MrsBrady |
May-12-09 12:08 PM |
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single-payer is the line i've drawn in the sand. |
dysfunctional press |
May-12-09 12:40 PM |
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K&R |
Bushknew |
May-12-09 12:53 PM |
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K&R |
Fireweed247 |
May-12-09 01:10 PM |
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The Truth - We Don't Matter |
colsohlibgal |
May-12-09 02:40 PM |
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Single Payer, Strategery, and Stupidity |
davidswanson |
May-12-09 03:11 PM |
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Congress and the WH have seriously compromised us already. |
snowdays |
May-12-09 03:44 PM |
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"You don't win a negotiation by asking for what you're willing to settle for." |
beac |
May-13-09 10:11 AM |
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"Baucus Baucus You Can't Hide - We Can See Your Greedy Side!" |
redqueen |
May-12-09 03:53 PM |
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Ed's wiping up the floor with Bacus et al! |
dgibby |
May-12-09 05:51 PM |
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I have a suggestion. We all know how to email our own reps and sens |
jwirr |
May-12-09 06:15 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
May-12-09 07:06 PM |
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K&R |
Wednesdays |
May-12-09 09:34 PM |
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Baucus needs to learn how politics works and how to compromise, His "my way or the highway" bs is |
John Q. Citizen |
May-12-09 11:36 PM |
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Baucus knows how it works |
dflprincess |
May-13-09 12:25 AM |
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IF The Administration Wanted This... There Would Be Leadership From Them!!! |
ChiciB1 |
May-13-09 09:11 AM |
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I agree. Except the way we are going to get any movement is we have to do it our selves. |
John Q. Citizen |
May-13-09 10:28 AM |
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And This Is A Shame Too!! There Are Far Too Many Of Us Who |
ChiciB1 |
May-13-09 10:51 AM |
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The corporate-media plays a role in this . . . they get 80% of the campaign funds . . .!!! |
defendandprotect |
May-13-09 10:21 AM |
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America, a true plutocracy.......... |
farmboxer |
May-12-09 11:41 PM |
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max baucus: dickhead. shame on him. that prick needs to step aside |
orleans |
May-13-09 12:43 AM |
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What's his number? |
grahamhgreen |
May-13-09 12:45 AM |
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CONGRESSIONAL SWITCHBOARD-TOLL FREE 202-224-3121 |
defendandprotect |
May-13-09 10:23 AM |
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Calling now |
grahamhgreen |
May-14-09 10:09 AM |
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I said, "Could you tell him that people literally are dying to get single-payer. Literally." nt |
grahamhgreen |
May-14-09 10:13 AM |
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Take Baukus down |
bridgit |
May-13-09 12:46 AM |
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I am so angry! |
farmboxer |
May-13-09 01:59 AM |
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how much Max Baucus received in big pharma contributions and insurance industry? |
livefreest |
May-13-09 02:57 AM |
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Believe Baucus is the largest recipient of health care funds . . . and coincidentally |
defendandprotect |
May-13-09 10:24 AM |
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of course coincidentally. what else could it be? |
livefreest |
May-14-09 01:20 AM |
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let's all march on Washington, DC and call on Pres Obama from the Lincoln Memorial |
livefreest |
May-13-09 03:51 AM |
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OK . . . maybe Howard Dean's organization will get this going? |
defendandprotect |
May-13-09 10:25 AM |
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Unfortunately I won't e there. |
zeemike |
May-13-09 08:06 AM |
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I'm In The Same Boat With You... Would LOVE To March & Give Them |
ChiciB1 |
May-13-09 10:54 AM |
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Wish I could be. Give the bastards hell. |
mmonk |
May-13-09 08:07 AM |
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kick |
Why Syzygy |
May-13-09 09:52 AM |
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K&R! n/t |
beac |
May-13-09 09:55 AM |
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Fitting Proof That the Oligarchs Are In Control - Single Payer Is The Only Option |
lostnotforgotten |
May-13-09 09:55 AM |
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I just called -- they were polite and no trouble getting thru switchboard . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-13-09 10:20 AM |
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Isn't the Congressional building ours? |
Kalyke |
May-13-09 02:10 PM |
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