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Sun May-10-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 77. In theory, you're right. In theory. |
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In theory, communism works. In theory.
Problem is that if we had nominated Edwards, and then this affair came out as the October surprise the best prospect for electing a Democratic president in 16 years is finished. Then it becomes a problem for all of us.
John Edwards was not Bill Clinton. They Clintons never depicted themselves as the all American family; the Edwards' did. Clinton did not cheat on a wife while she was battling breast cancer. Like it or not, the American people would not have forgiven Edwards, especially had this revelation come out in the thick of the campaign.
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| -Edwards Staff Had Affair 'Doomsday' Strategy |
kpete |
May-10-09 12:13 PM |
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Wow starting an article with a George Will reference |
underpants |
May-10-09 12:16 PM |
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So Cokie doesn't know a single couple in DC who stayed together for political reasons? |
underpants |
May-10-09 12:32 PM |
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The "article" is just a rehashing of part of the "This Week" roundtable. |
MADem |
May-10-09 01:21 PM |
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This is a bullshit story. |
FourScore |
May-10-09 10:36 PM |
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That is an amazing development |
Adelante |
May-10-09 12:29 PM |
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But a good point was made during This Week--who knows how the primary |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 12:45 PM |
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I didn't see the interview |
Adelante |
May-10-09 12:56 PM |
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There is a link to the entire roundtable at the bottom of the synopsis. |
MADem |
May-10-09 01:24 PM |
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Iowa's Des Moines Register polls for second choice |
karynnj |
May-11-09 01:32 PM |
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I agree with your assessment. NT |
MADem |
May-10-09 01:33 PM |
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I keep thinking about something I read about the National Enquirer editor-in-chief |
Adelante |
May-10-09 02:02 PM |
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Could be--I'm guessing the oppo was well researched, too. |
MADem |
May-10-09 03:58 PM |
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With friends like that, who needs enemies? nt |
Old Coot |
May-10-09 12:41 PM |
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Welcome to DU, Old Coot! n/t |
pnwmom |
May-10-09 06:27 PM |
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But, George... He didn't win the nomination and the system worked. |
Hugin |
May-10-09 12:42 PM |
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What a crowd of backstabbing douches! Whose business is it that |
Somawas |
May-10-09 12:43 PM |
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If Rielle had been the October surprise, it damned well might have been the business of the entire |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 12:48 PM |
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Valid points, all. |
MADem |
May-10-09 01:26 PM |
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i agree. thank you. n/t. |
okieinpain |
May-11-09 08:17 AM |
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Thank you! |
Christa |
May-10-09 12:51 PM |
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I care that a man cheated on a dying woman and exposed her and their kids to this at this time. I |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 01:16 PM |
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No one is perfect |
Christa |
May-10-09 01:41 PM |
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That is true |
rpannier |
May-10-09 05:29 PM |
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Should Bill Clinton have been president? |
JDPriestly |
May-10-09 11:37 PM |
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Sorry, but with what happened to Bill Clinton as an example |
customerserviceguy |
May-10-09 08:47 PM |
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And don't ever forget how fucking Edwards was PUBLICLY SCOLDING CLINTON |
TankLV |
May-10-09 09:28 PM |
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We cant afford this now |
Bert |
May-10-09 11:51 PM |
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Bingo! I hate to say it because I supported Edwards |
Triana |
May-10-09 02:21 PM |
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We All Do - But I Don't Think You See What Some of the Rest of Us Do |
NashVegas |
May-10-09 07:46 PM |
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And I care that Edwards was the only candidate that really understood |
JDPriestly |
May-10-09 11:36 PM |
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We're still under the shadow of the Clenis 11 years after the fact |
XemaSab |
May-10-09 01:28 PM |
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Well, for one thing |
skepticscott |
May-10-09 04:15 PM |
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Clinton lied to Hillary, but he did a great job as president. |
JDPriestly |
May-10-09 11:38 PM |
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the pos used the sacredness of marriage and his marriage in particular |
cali |
May-10-09 04:27 PM |
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Exactly. And I wonder if this is even true. |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 12:57 PM |
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The tragedy would have been if Rielle and her mysterious infant had been the October surprise, |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 01:09 PM |
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People getting killed is a tragedy. A politician getting busted for |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 02:26 PM |
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I like you EFerrari |
Catch22Dem |
May-10-09 02:31 PM |
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Enough people liked McCain/Palin too give them far more votes... |
Frank Cannon |
May-10-09 03:36 PM |
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You may be right, Frank. But wasn't Sarah Palin's daughter walking around |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 03:42 PM |
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But Bristol Palin was neither running for President (or anything else) nor |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 04:03 PM |
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I have a hard time believing Americans would choose McCain |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 04:10 PM |
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Cheating on your cancer-stricken wife "proves you are a man" in some circles |
oberliner |
May-10-09 04:16 PM |
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Human circles? I didn't say I agreed with that viewpoint |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 04:18 PM |
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Again, you limit to an affair. You left out the part about a wife dying of cancer and |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 04:32 PM |
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There is noting extraordinary about the real daily lives of real people |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 05:01 PM |
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I'm glad I've never met anyone in any of those circles |
oberliner |
May-10-09 04:45 PM |
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That would be the extreme version of the story, that's right. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 05:02 PM |
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In my posts, I have been assuming that he might not have had two weeks, though. |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 04:18 PM |
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It's also very difficult to believe that if Edwards was that close |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 04:22 PM |
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As long as we deal in "very difficult to believe," we are dealing solely in |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 04:48 PM |
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Bush I also did, it is rumored. And, of course, the timing of Reagan's |
JDPriestly |
May-10-09 11:50 PM |
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I think we can distinguish between an affair 25 or so years before running for office and an |
No Elephants |
May-11-09 05:59 AM |
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LBJ is said to have been a womanizer, yes. And remember |
EFerrari |
May-11-09 02:05 AM |
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Rumors vs. caught in the woman's hotel at 2 am, after the Enquirer has |
No Elephants |
May-11-09 06:05 AM |
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I'd like to know what Doris Kearns Goodwin knows about LBJ's private habits. |
MADem |
May-12-09 02:17 PM |
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But as always, IOKIYAR. nt |
tblue37 |
May-10-09 05:41 PM |
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I said that a McCain Palin administration would have been a tragedy, not |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 03:58 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 04:11 PM |
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i think the election could've been a lot closer |
PittPoliSci |
May-10-09 08:57 PM |
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That's true. And with so many venues that use all touch screen |
EFerrari |
May-11-09 01:42 AM |
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Bush never once had a sex scandal. Not the whole 8 years. |
aquart |
May-10-09 05:57 PM |
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"So far as we know" is right. But, when did I say that any kind of extra marital affair at any |
No Elephants |
May-11-09 06:21 AM |
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Some psychotropic drugs are said to depress the libido, perhaps? |
MADem |
May-12-09 02:22 PM |
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It's fucking |
Cha |
May-10-09 03:20 PM |
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ESPECIALLY when his WIFE has CANCER and so Does the USA! |
spooked |
May-10-09 04:47 PM |
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According to Edwards during the campaign it was the voters' business. |
Garbo 2004 |
May-10-09 04:19 PM |
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that isn't the point. |
PittPoliSci |
May-10-09 08:55 PM |
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In theory, you're right. In theory. |
bluestateguy |
May-10-09 10:55 PM |
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Unlike you, they probably cared about winning elections. nt |
anonymous171 |
May-11-09 02:25 AM |
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I doubt it would have mattered if he'd been honest about it... |
Baby Snooks |
May-10-09 12:51 PM |
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Being honest about it would have shown that he was (a) in touch with reality and (b) at least |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 01:18 PM |
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The thing is, for most public figures "hide and hush" and "being honest" |
EFerrari |
May-10-09 02:38 PM |
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George Will and Newt Gingrich, the intellectual future of the Republican........ |
pattmarty |
May-10-09 12:53 PM |
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It wasn't George Will who put forward the Doomsday Strategy. |
MADem |
May-10-09 01:36 PM |
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It didn't matter to me, Wills is a pompous no nothing windbag................ |
pattmarty |
May-10-09 04:27 PM |
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Newt Gingrich has no right to criticize someone for having an affair. |
JDPriestly |
May-10-09 11:54 PM |
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I would be interested in knowing how they |
madaboutharry |
May-10-09 01:19 PM |
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Yeah, If he'd won |
Turbineguy |
May-10-09 01:30 PM |
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Why not just resign? |
Necon-Be-Gone |
May-10-09 01:30 PM |
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No. |
troubleinwinter |
May-10-09 02:09 PM |
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it's not the sex - it's the lying and deceit and the cover up (as in watergate) nt |
msongs |
May-10-09 03:21 PM |
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GREAT NEWS! too bad there weren't similarly PATRIOTIC Americans who are also REPUKES... |
TankLV |
May-10-09 03:28 PM |
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to the Edwards haters |
Divine Discontent |
May-10-09 03:32 PM |
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Obviously, you mean Edwards' critics, since no has posted that they hate him. And you are |
No Elephants |
May-10-09 04:25 PM |
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Aye |
NashVegas |
May-10-09 07:52 PM |
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That's weird |
XemaSab |
May-10-09 08:04 PM |
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That's Even Weirder |
NashVegas |
May-11-09 02:59 PM |
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I voted for Edwards in the primary -- after he had dropped out, |
JDPriestly |
May-10-09 11:56 PM |
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that is not true, even after Edwards left, Obama continued to lead |
JI7 |
May-10-09 06:21 PM |
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I never trusted Edwards from the get-go. Especially since his ANTI-GAY stances... |
TankLV |
May-10-09 09:26 PM |
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Don't you mean McCain would have won?... |
misanthrope |
May-11-09 01:59 PM |
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George Will. |
high density |
May-10-09 03:59 PM |
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Right-fucking someone besides one spouse is enough to take matters in ones own hands for the nations |
LaPera |
May-10-09 04:30 PM |
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in the real world, this shit can wreck a campaign |
cali |
May-11-09 01:44 PM |
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ABC contributor George Will... |
rpannier |
May-10-09 05:27 PM |
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You know, that's kind of shitty. They took campaign contributions from people knowing that he would |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-10-09 10:19 PM |
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and thats really wrong. I gave plenty. I like what he stood up for |
Divine Discontent |
May-11-09 02:35 AM |
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Regarding the alleged "doomsday" strategy |
Liberal813 |
May-11-09 01:08 AM |
#85 |
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