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Reply #210: I will attempt to answer your question seriously: Mythology & Storytelling [View All]

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210. I will attempt to answer your question seriously: Mythology & Storytelling
are documented traditions that are thousands of years old. As we explore the (real) world, our adventures/fantasies have to expand into alternate universes / outer space / alternate-realities-where-magic really works / etc. to create a place where protagonists (heroes) can wrestle with real life / moral quandaries / coping with bad things without obvious 'modern' fixes. Historical fiction can also be a valid setting for these adventures, as in, 'someone died of something that a modern antibiotic would have rendered easily curable', but as our knowledge of the real world grows, creating a literary world with its own set of rules is easier when we want to suspend disbelief.

For example, 100 years ago, the 'average' person did not have a clear picture of 'deepest, darkest Africa,' so Edgar Rice Burroughs was able to utilize the myth of it as a backdrop for an entertaining series about an orphan child (Tarzan/John Clayton/Lord Greystoke) who then had to wrestle with 'what makes a person civilized / how deep does a veneer of barbarian coat the true inner character / what makes a person noble and decent / how does the human heart and brain differ from the animal / what makes a person DECENT / how does environment impact on such concepts as self-sacrifice, courage, and empathy / etc.'

All wrapped up in an adventure tale that has captured the hearts of people for decades, and been retold in visual mediums multiple times, as well as print.

Like any good story, there is the surface of the tale, and then, when you look closer, there is the undercurrent. How does the character change / grow? What choices were made? Who am I, in relation to my environment? How do I feel about the choices the character makes? What choices would *I* make, given the same situation?

As I said, Africa was the great unknown; nowadays, we can easily google the place, and some of the 'mystery' is gone, because we 'know' that apes behave one way, and elephants another, and since Burroughs didn't have the benefit of google, or one hundred years of anthropology (plus he was a screaming racist, which was normal for his society), his 'aliens' were animals which we can now view in the local zoo. He could just as easily have placed his young orphan on another planet (yes, I know about John Carter of Mars - we are talking about Burrough's examination of nature vs nurture with his Tarzan series, thank you!), and that was Africa At The Time -- almost like an alien planet to the average person.

Now, back to your questions about Star Trek / X-Men: one of the MANY reasons they are enduring is because they have built their own layered mythology, based on characters who experience tragedy and triumph. Some of the tales are lightly concealed morality plays (how do we treat those who are different? what makes us 'better' than other people? what is civilization? what is courage? what is self-sacrifice? etc.), with human beings who might look different (green, adamantine claws, working in outer space, gifted with something that sets them apart from normal, etc.) but are REALLY US.

Think about it: you are going about your business, and all of a sudden, WHAM! You are different. You can do something that no one else can do. (See any adolescent walking the road between childhood to adult!) You can walk through a wall, control the weather, survive a fall from a ridiculous height -- fill in the blank, because once that initial moment of freak out passes, now you have to accept the fact you ARE NOT A GOD, and get about the business of living. How do you do that? And honestly, if someone can pick themselves up after having their family killed in front of them (which happens in 'real life'), then maybe a person unexpectedly in a wheelchair, or with a broken home, or whatever the problem is, can find the courage to pick themselves up, too, and if they can then commit themselves to trying to make the world a better place, then double yeah, because its hard to think outside of yourself when you are in pain, which is a pretty standard human condition.

I also think one of the reasons particularly bright people love these stories is because they deal with being different. If one accepts the fact that an IQ of 100 is 'normal' (50th percentile), that means half the population is above that number, and the higher the intelligence factor, the lonelier a person can be. As one wise person once said, 'its not how smart you are that counts, its what you do with it,' and the fantasy heroes with special abilities are just like us (only thinly disguised). Sometimes its easier to relate to the villain, and that is okay, too. We can intellectually explore the ideas, then put them aside while we deal with the real world, and that is fine.

For the Star Trek fan, there is also another bit: just like we know Africa today, or are still exploring the world under our seas (thanks to the inspiration of tales of mermaids and submarines), the idea of space travel as a normal part of the job is inspiring to some of our greatest minds. Yes, there are difficulties in the mechanics of it (E=mc2), but once one moves past the obvious problems, one begins to work on the solutions, until a probe exploring Mars (which looks nothing like Burroughs envisioned, by the way) seems plausible, and then normal. A space shuttle is nothing, and a space station is acceptable. Our writers and readers and storytellers have already been discussing some of the problems small crews will have as they deal with the new normals (small spaces, unexpected problems, and people with real personalities who don't always get along), and those of us in the know already understand that once we get past the mechanics of space travel, we will still be people -- and we will be the ones who define who a person is.

People can be white, or black, or green with pink polka dots. They can be hetero, homo, or multi sexual beings. They may believe in one god, or a thousand. Their ideas of family and how to treat each other may be the same, or different.

Either way, we will be richer for the knowing.

In the meantime, our imaginations will continue to ask the same questions we have been asking and answering for millenia.

Who are we? How did we get here? Why are we here? What makes us unique/special/different? What is courage? What is self-sacrifice? How should we behave?

Who are we, anyway?

End Note: For more information, I highly recommend reading any work by Joseph Campbell, including "Hero with a Thousand Faces," and my personal favorite, "The Power of Myth." Plus, of course, seeing the latest Star Trek and X-Men: Wolverine movies! LOL! :)
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  Star Trek, Batman, "X-men," "Wolverine" etc -- why the hell do adults care about this shit? smalll  May-11-09 01:22 AM   #0 
   It's called entertainment.  Marr   May-11-09 01:27 AM   #1 
   +1...and thanks for expressing my feelings on this...nt  and-justice-for-all   May-11-09 06:50 AM   #91 
   +2...  dysfunctional press   May-11-09 01:57 PM   #288 
   Or as I like to say, "sometimes I want a twinkie". LOL  Javaman   May-11-09 04:12 PM   #353 
   I like movies about the comic books I enjoyed as a kid.  Iggo   May-11-09 01:29 AM   #2 
   More comic movies are being made now because the CGI is finally up to the task  wuushew   May-11-09 01:29 AM   #3 
   What would you have hollywood make instead?  DJ13   May-11-09 01:36 AM   #6 
      I would LOVE to see a Ringworld movie.  Marr   May-11-09 01:38 AM   #10 
      Yep - "Known Space" is rife with good stories.  GaYellowDawg   May-11-09 02:25 AM   #42 
      wizard of earthsea  paulsby   May-11-09 09:57 AM   #143 
         Sadly, won't happen for years.  Xithras   May-11-09 11:30 AM   #221 
            was that the one  paulsby   May-11-09 01:17 PM   #270 
            Yes, the same. It was awful .  Xithras   May-11-09 01:52 PM   #283 
            Is that the one where they made all the main characters WHITE?  Withywindle   May-11-09 02:51 PM   #316 
               There IS a Le Guin-approved Earthsea movie.  sweetloukillbot   May-12-09 01:05 AM   #435 
      I'd love to see a good Ursula LeGuin movie, or Terry Pratchett, Gaiman's American Gods...  Hekate   May-11-09 02:49 AM   #54 
      Find PBS's movie "The Lathe of Heaven"  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 03:40 AM   #69 
      Second that  sarge43   May-11-09 10:15 AM   #156 
      Ben Bova's "The Precipice" and "The Rock Rats"  Occulus   May-11-09 01:06 PM   #265 
      I'm not sure I agree about the Sword of Truth having made a good anything.  LooseWilly   May-11-09 04:16 PM   #356 
         Hmm. He does get a bit preachy and pedantic, doesn't he?  Occulus   May-12-09 01:23 AM   #437 
            Hehe... well, if I was watching that show for the plot  LooseWilly   May-12-09 02:33 AM   #446 
      American Gods would be too complicated. Good book though. n/t  FSogol   May-11-09 01:57 PM   #290 
      It's been a while since I read it, but I think it would work as a miniseries.  Occulus   May-12-09 01:32 AM   #438 
      Yes and no  moggie   May-11-09 04:32 PM   #365 
      Bester's The Stars, My Destination is in early production.  sarge43   May-11-09 07:37 AM   #96 
      Are you kidding me?  The Traveler   May-12-09 02:25 AM   #444 
         So they say at IMDB.  sarge43   May-12-09 07:59 AM   #458 
      Ringworld!  NeedleCast   May-11-09 10:15 AM   #155 
      I'm with you.  Duncan   May-11-09 01:11 PM   #266 
      Which Egan?  moggie   May-11-09 04:48 PM   #370 
      weren't there rumors of a Foundation movie(s)?  yodermon   May-11-09 01:32 PM   #276 
      how about Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld or Zelazny's Amber Series?  FSogol   May-11-09 01:56 PM   #287 
      Riverworld  CrispyQ   May-11-09 05:36 PM   #386 
      I watch all sorts of stuff but this stuff is FUN! FUN!FUN!FUN! Sue me too.  roguevalley   May-11-09 02:56 PM   #320 
   IMO, it's all a distraction: Sports, Hollywood, SUV's, Fashion, Celebrities, etc...  NYC_SKP   May-11-09 01:32 AM   #4 
   Yeah, because Lord knows people can't process more than one thing at once  Mike Daniels   May-11-09 08:53 AM   #117 
      I can't understand it either, Mike. Some people think if you aren't  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:00 PM   #321 
   I have no use for any of it..  Webster Green   May-11-09 01:36 AM   #5 
   I don't understand it either.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 01:37 AM   #7 
   If all you got out of "Million Dollar Baby" was "boxers who beat people up"...  WildEyedLiberal   May-11-09 01:39 AM   #11 
   Yeah, I sure did miss it. So sue me.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 04:11 AM   #76 
      Ah, I love the smell of sanctimony in the morning  WildEyedLiberal   May-11-09 04:18 AM   #77 
         There are plenty of artistic things I like. Just not comic book heroes.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 04:40 AM   #79 
         Personally, I like the Oral Interpretation of Poetry forum  timtom   May-11-09 06:17 AM   #88 
         So what's it say about "cultured" Europe that soccer fans regularly beat the shit out of each other  Mike Daniels   May-11-09 08:58 AM   #122 
            Oh, pay me no mind.  timtom   May-11-09 09:55 AM   #141 
         list them then. I'm curious what rates over the mass media stuff  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:01 PM   #322 
         "I am far more creative than you will ever know."  Maru Kitteh   May-11-09 10:27 PM   #411 
         Wow. What a dumb thing to say! Is something wrong with you?  mwb970   May-11-09 08:17 AM   #101 
            Ah, the Godwin's Law of DU - accuse someone of being a freeper  WildEyedLiberal   May-11-09 02:24 PM   #302 
               Two different things. Cartoons and MDB.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 04:16 PM   #355 
                  So what do you think of God.  LooseWilly   May-11-09 04:35 PM   #366 
                  I'm an agnostic. I have nothing to do with that fantasy that is a violent God.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 04:48 PM   #369 
                     Agnostic? Nothing to do with?...  LooseWilly   May-12-09 02:17 AM   #443 
                        You're thinking too hard.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-12-09 02:29 AM   #445 
                  For a pacifist, you sure could use some work in the compassion department  WildEyedLiberal   May-12-09 02:55 AM   #450 
                     You're generalizing.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-12-09 03:27 AM   #452 
                        Of course I don't. I know nothing about you. This is an anonymous message board  WildEyedLiberal   May-12-09 03:36 AM   #453 
   Wow...you must have worked hard to only get that out of "Million Dollar Baby"  HarukaTheTrophyWife   May-11-09 10:35 AM   #186 
   Wait let me pull my sack cloth on and flagellate myself for wanting to escape  DainBramaged   May-11-09 01:37 AM   #8 
   Oh there's nothing wrong with a little well-placed escapsim,  smalll   May-11-09 01:45 AM   #16 
   I think the words you're looking for are,  Marr   May-11-09 01:49 AM   #18 
   Win  NeedleCast   May-11-09 10:21 AM   #165 
   And the fact that Europeans and Japanese read graphic novels  villager   May-11-09 01:57 AM   #25 
   Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-09 02:02 AM   #28 
   Hmmm, kind of racist and broadbrush donchathink?  MindPilot   May-11-09 10:27 AM   #175 
   Racist much?  HarukaTheTrophyWife   May-11-09 10:42 AM   #192 
   Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-09 02:02 AM   #29 
      Eurotrash?  JackDragna   May-11-09 08:43 AM   #108 
      Hmmm, kind of racist and broadbrush donchathink?  MindPilot   May-11-09 10:28 AM   #177 
   Pardon me but  blogslut   May-11-09 02:40 AM   #47 
   Yep.  Marr   May-11-09 02:45 AM   #50 
   OMG he's Cliff Claven  tkmorris   May-11-09 03:42 AM   #71 
   funny. n/t.  okieinpain   May-11-09 09:35 AM   #136 
   +1  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 08:48 AM   #113 
   We can't all be pretentious snobs.  Confusious   May-11-09 05:08 AM   #80 
   I bet you think opera is nothing but Brunnhilde in a helmet.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 06:06 PM   #392 
   Bing Crosby?!?!?!?!?  ProfessorGAC   May-11-09 05:57 AM   #86 
   I used to think that about Sinatra until I heard an episode of "This American Life"  HamdenRice   May-11-09 08:28 AM   #103 
   you're confusing Crosby with his movie persona  jacksonian   May-11-09 11:20 AM   #216 
   What jacksonian said. Crosby was a true ground-breaker  RufusTFirefly   May-11-09 12:33 PM   #244 
   LOL not to mention  JerseygirlCT   May-11-09 09:37 PM   #407 
   smalll just likes the fact that he used to beat his kids with sacks of oranges  jgraz   May-11-09 05:49 PM   #390 
   Bing Crosby and that generation of entertainment is long gone  DainBramaged   May-11-09 08:44 AM   #109 
   Puccini arias for good wholesome entertainment, eh?  dalaigh lllama   May-11-09 10:46 AM   #197 
   I'm guessing smalll couldn't name a Puccini aria with a gun to his head  jgraz   May-11-09 05:50 PM   #391 
   Puccini  malletgirl02   May-11-09 11:39 PM   #425 
   You seem to forget...  LooseWilly   May-11-09 04:10 PM   #351 
   Golf and Crosby suck, X-Men are awesome.  ZombieHorde   May-12-09 01:07 AM   #436 
   "Impressionist canvases???"  MicaelS   May-12-09 10:04 AM   #463 
   Put that on video and I'd watch it!  BR_Parkway   May-11-09 08:03 AM   #97 
   I think your namecalling and ignorant dismissal say far more about you  WildEyedLiberal   May-11-09 01:38 AM   #9 
   Agreed- but I don't think entertainment needs to be deep to be worthwhile anyway.  Marr   May-11-09 01:43 AM   #14 
   You forgot to mention that The Canterbury Tales was written  sarge43   May-11-09 08:09 AM   #99 
   Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-09 01:48 AM   #17 
   What a petulant child you are  WildEyedLiberal   May-11-09 02:14 AM   #33 
   Small just gets drunk and then starts being a dick on purpose.  Political Heretic   May-11-09 09:34 AM   #134 
   Let's start by having you list YOUR entertainment choices  NYC Liberal   May-11-09 02:16 AM   #35 
   The Smith didn't say, but I will, and I'm not afraid of you. I like LOST!  Touchdown   May-11-09 02:28 AM   #45 
   I fucking hate "Lost", but my wife loves it, and she is probably way smarter & well-read than you  HarukaTheTrophyWife   May-11-09 10:37 AM   #189 
   LOL  DireStrike   May-11-09 10:44 AM   #195 
      That was rather amusing.  Seldona   May-11-09 02:50 PM   #315 
   I used to think that comic books were foolish when I was younger.  EOTE   May-11-09 10:30 AM   #181 
   given that the entire Jet Propulsion Lab, half of NASA and more  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:07 PM   #325 
   To piss you off.  Vickers   May-11-09 01:39 AM   #12 
   +1................n/t  CrownPrinceBandarDU Moderator   May-11-09 11:32 AM   #222 
   Holy Classist Bullshit, Batman!  LeftyMom   May-11-09 01:39 AM   #13 
   Comic books are like tall tales or oral traditions. They tell the same stories  metapunditedgy   May-11-09 01:45 AM   #15 
   They are the myths of our generations  shadowknows69   May-11-09 01:51 AM   #19 
   Well, tell us what YOU like then.  Canuckistanian   May-11-09 01:51 AM   #20 
   A steady diet of Schindler's Lists and Requiem For A Dreams would be suicidal.  Touchdown   May-11-09 01:53 AM   #21 
   and transformers are more than meets the eye  paulsby   May-11-09 10:02 AM   #145 
   Cowards .....imaging themselves as *super-heroes"......  Mind_your_head   May-11-09 01:54 AM   #22 
   Cowards -- I wouldn't want to accuse them of that necessarily though --  smalll   May-11-09 02:00 AM   #27 
   Funny...  LooseWilly   May-11-09 02:23 AM   #39 
   True....heroes often come from the "least likely places"  Mind_your_head   May-11-09 03:11 AM   #63 
   wow, you are a wonderful human being  Lerkfish   May-11-09 11:41 AM   #227 
   DISAPPOINTING, MYH.  TheWatcher   May-11-09 01:53 PM   #284 
   And what movies should we be 'abuzz' over???  rpannier   May-11-09 01:54 AM   #23 
   And by the way.... It's light sabEr  Touchdown   May-11-09 01:56 AM   #24 
   Ever read Joseph Campbell and the Heroes' Journey?  fujiyama   May-11-09 01:59 AM   #26 
   Well before his/ her time  Lorien   May-11-09 03:12 AM   #64 
   Wow. This is a royally stupid post.  Yukari Yakumo   May-11-09 02:09 AM   #30 
   LOL -- "anime" -- I think that's what it's called, isn't it?  smalll   May-11-09 02:17 AM   #36 
      You're just trolling everyone to get TS'd, aren't you?  Yukari Yakumo   May-11-09 02:25 AM   #41 
      Great Pic!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 01:11 PM   #268 
      Ok, put up or shut up already.  LooseWilly   May-11-09 02:40 AM   #48 
      Bing Crosby.  Guy Whitey Corngood   May-11-09 09:51 AM   #139 
      keeping it simple for you:  keroro gunsou   May-11-09 04:54 PM   #373 
   No matter how old and wise you get, it's important to keep a smalll mind.  Touchdown   May-11-09 02:10 AM   #31 
   That's exactly what's going on with this tool. n/t  Mojambo   May-11-09 03:42 AM   #70 
      That's why I spelt it with three els  Touchdown   May-11-09 05:39 AM   #84 
   Irony  Aethertek   May-11-09 02:14 AM   #32 
   Or the "enlightened people" on DU who binge on MSNBC  Touchdown   May-11-09 02:25 AM   #40 
   I will now endeavor to give you several answers.  LooseWilly   May-11-09 02:15 AM   #34 
   Well played.  Greyskye   May-11-09 04:50 PM   #371 
   "ordering a beer up at the bar"- why the hell do adults care about this shit?  mr blur   May-11-09 02:17 AM   #37 
   Because it's fun for them.  GaYellowDawg   May-11-09 02:22 AM   #38 
   smalll is right.  proteus_lives   May-11-09 02:26 AM   #43 
   Welcome...  LooseWilly   May-11-09 02:49 AM   #53 
   Geeks Unite!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 12:54 PM   #256 
   I'll let Ogre speak for me  martymar64   May-11-09 06:44 AM   #89 
   Just thinking about this movie.  proteus_lives   May-11-09 12:57 PM   #258 
   Welcome to DU..  Fumesucker   May-11-09 07:31 AM   #95 
   Welcome to DU!  Canuckistanian   May-11-09 08:31 AM   #104 
   Welcome to our little slice of hell.  JackDragna   May-11-09 08:55 AM   #120 
   A hearty welcome to DU  Phoonzang   May-11-09 09:14 AM   #128 
   Hello.  bigwillq   May-11-09 09:16 AM   #129 
   Welcome to DU where the fun never stops. n/t  sarge43   May-11-09 09:58 AM   #144 
   Welcome to DU, fellow nerd!  myrna minx   May-11-09 10:03 AM   #146 
   Welcome to DU  lumberjack_jeff   May-11-09 10:11 AM   #152 
   Beautiful first time post -- WELCOME! nt  IdaBriggs   May-11-09 11:22 AM   #217 
   "Waves Back"  proteus_lives   May-11-09 12:59 PM   #260 
   Welcome out of Lurkerdom.  ThomCat   May-11-09 12:09 PM   #236 
   Welcome to DU.  Mythsaje   May-11-09 12:13 PM   #238 
   Hunched over a Warhammer table  DainBramaged   May-11-09 12:27 PM   #241 
   Thanks!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 01:04 PM   #263 
      Have CASES of Warhammer going back to the early 90's. to present  DainBramaged   May-11-09 01:57 PM   #291 
         My friend is the same.  proteus_lives   May-11-09 03:56 PM   #348 
            Get the wife into the game  nadinbrzezinski   May-11-09 04:42 PM   #368 
            He tries!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 11:16 PM   #418 
               Well if all she does is play a few table top  nadinbrzezinski   May-12-09 01:48 AM   #442 
            It is so intense. And it precluded the age of computers with great stories  DainBramaged   May-11-09 05:29 PM   #383 
   Welcome to DU!  redqueen   May-11-09 12:36 PM   #247 
   Thank You!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 01:06 PM   #264 
      Thanks!  redqueen   May-11-09 01:23 PM   #271 
         Not at all!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 03:54 PM   #347 
   Vilkomin.  Iggo   May-11-09 01:12 PM   #269 
   Welcome to DU  nadinbrzezinski   May-11-09 01:34 PM   #278 
   Hail, fellow nerd!  Rob H.   May-11-09 01:54 PM   #285 
   You rock, dude  WildEyedLiberal   May-11-09 02:32 PM   #309 
   Welcome to DU!  Seldona   May-11-09 03:08 PM   #326 
   welcome, proteus. I remember the first ep of star trek, the salt  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:17 PM   #331 
   Thanks!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 03:53 PM   #346 
   For me it was the first couple eps of NextGen.  proteus_lives   May-11-09 11:21 PM   #419 
   welcome  keroro gunsou   May-11-09 04:56 PM   #374 
   A point to you!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 11:34 PM   #422 
      techincally  keroro gunsou   May-12-09 10:58 AM   #464 
         Hmm, I have wondered about that.  proteus_lives   May-12-09 03:00 PM   #466 
   Awesome!  slutticus   May-11-09 09:19 PM   #404 
   I noticed that the list of courses offered at my son's school  JerseygirlCT   May-11-09 09:39 PM   #408 
   Welcome  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   May-11-09 11:47 PM   #429 
   Because corporations bought all media and have killed new ideas to resell the old ones they own  omega minimo   May-11-09 02:27 AM   #44 
   Now that's an answer.  bottomtheweaver   May-11-09 08:47 AM   #111 
   which began same time as first "Blockbuster" "Star Wars" and its comics style Sci Fi franchise  omega minimo   May-11-09 01:57 PM   #289 
      Jaws. Two years before SW.  Touchdown   May-11-09 04:23 PM   #361 
   Even better!  TZ   May-12-09 02:58 AM   #451 
      Don't project your misunderstandings and hatred on me.  omega minimo   May-12-09 09:31 AM   #461 
   Shapespeare, Beethoven, Picasso, etc -- why the hell do adults care about this shit?  bananas   May-11-09 02:28 AM   #46 
   Heh...  LooseWilly   May-11-09 02:53 AM   #57 
      and then there's the whole  paulsby   May-11-09 10:06 AM   #148 
   "I have abandoned my search for reality. I am now looking for a good fantasy." Ashleigh Brilliant  Hekate   May-11-09 02:42 AM   #49 
   Such vitriol!  frustrated_lefty   May-11-09 02:45 AM   #51 
   If you don't like it, DON'T GO SEE IT.  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 02:47 AM   #52 
   agreed. You got too far when you trash star trek!  Liberal_in_LA   May-11-09 02:50 AM   #55 
   His DU name "small" describes many a thing about him, I suspect.  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 02:52 AM   #56 
   Good point. But it's kind of like the lie that flight attendants tell you  RufusTFirefly   May-11-09 11:36 AM   #224 
   "small", you need a nice big glass of  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 02:53 AM   #58 
   That's "Austen" dear. /nt  smalll   May-11-09 02:59 AM   #61 
      My pet peeve: someone pedantic about spelling who can't spell himself.  tuvor   May-11-09 03:15 AM   #66 
         Ouch. n/t  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 03:36 AM   #67 
         +1  HarukaTheTrophyWife   May-11-09 10:40 AM   #191 
   You're right. Don't let them roll you into retracting what you posted.  Jim Sagle   May-11-09 02:58 AM   #59 
   yeah. I think of Bush/Cheney/Reagan first when I think of star trek.  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:21 PM   #334 
      A little more conversation and a little less action, please.  Jim Sagle   May-11-09 05:37 PM   #387 
   Yikes!  Clintonista2   May-11-09 02:58 AM   #60 
   This will help explain it to you:  Lorien   May-11-09 03:03 AM   #62 
   Folks, don't feed the trolls...  BzaDem   May-11-09 03:14 AM   #65 
   Kindly fuck off.  Mojambo   May-11-09 03:36 AM   #68 
   What a weird post.  BlooInBloo   May-11-09 03:46 AM   #72 
   "  H2O Man   May-11-09 06:48 AM   #90 
   So ... you were at a bar, drinking, and you're bashing others for their interests.  REP   May-11-09 03:47 AM   #73 
   A few juvenile idiots who like Star Trek include:  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 03:51 AM   #74 
   And my friend who grew up reading X-Men  Touchdown   May-11-09 05:42 AM   #85 
   The first time I saw Obama, I told my friend I didn't think this country was ready to elect a  Marr   May-11-09 11:07 AM   #208 
   Sounds like your ass is just getting old......  FrenchieCat   May-11-09 03:52 AM   #75 
   Amen  Toucano   May-11-09 04:31 AM   #78 
   I loved 'Stranger then Fiction'  JonLP24   May-11-09 05:33 AM   #83 
      elf?  paulsby   May-11-09 10:12 AM   #153 
      Now that you mention it, it is funny  JonLP24   May-11-09 10:19 AM   #163 
      i agree on blades of glory  paulsby   May-11-09 10:21 AM   #167 
         Elf is a classic, I think. n-t  Toucano   May-11-09 12:40 PM   #252 
      DAMN! someone likes 'elf'. I lean myself towards Lord of the Rings ;)  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:23 PM   #335 
      That's why I said most. "Stranger Than Fiction" is great.  Toucano   May-11-09 12:39 PM   #251 
   Because action films are awesome.  Lucian   May-11-09 05:15 AM   #81 
   I never liked or payed attention to comic books or cartoons  JonLP24   May-11-09 05:22 AM   #82 
   Nostalgia  WeDidIt   May-11-09 06:08 AM   #87 
   Why is other peoples' tastes in films making you so upset?  martymar64   May-11-09 07:02 AM   #92 
   why you lumping science fiction in with comic books?  eShirl   May-11-09 07:03 AM   #93 
   One's a field (or genre), the other's a medium, and the medium can carry the genre...  JackRiddler   May-11-09 09:36 AM   #137 
      I was being silly, silly  eShirl   May-11-09 10:56 AM   #201 
         Ah, me too.  JackRiddler   May-11-09 12:06 PM   #234 
   Entertainment  Bluzmann57   May-11-09 07:03 AM   #94 
   Wow. I was going to say I agree, but now I won't.  mwb970   May-11-09 08:07 AM   #98 
   There's a huge difference between "I don't care for "cartoonish" movies" and "What's with all these  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 08:52 AM   #116 
   Oh no! Someone might CRITICIZE you!  JackDragna   May-11-09 09:05 AM   #125 
      There's a big difference between "criticizing" and "flaming".  mwb970   May-11-09 10:19 AM   #160 
         Because the OP is flamey. Post a flamey OP calling people who enjoy comics abnormal...get a flamey  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 10:37 AM   #188 
   Why do adults care about ancient Danish princes (Hamlet) or exiled wizards (The Tempest)  HamdenRice   May-11-09 08:16 AM   #100 
   Exiled Milanese Dukes  bottomtheweaver   May-11-09 08:48 AM   #112 
      Exiled Milanese Dukes with magical powers  HamdenRice   May-11-09 08:55 AM   #119 
         Yep a student of the "liberal arts," but for the sake of parallelism with Hamlet  bottomtheweaver   May-11-09 09:04 AM   #124 
            As pointed out by Captain Picard, Prospero also represented  sarge43   May-11-09 09:29 AM   #131 
               his copy of shakespeare on the ship was a very old copy lent to the  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:27 PM   #337 
                  Ah. Didn't know that.  sarge43   May-11-09 03:41 PM   #342 
   shocking...  melm00se   May-11-09 08:26 AM   #102 
   In fact, this is a DU summer ritual.  sarge43   May-11-09 08:41 AM   #106 
   This is one of the worst posts I've ever read on DU  distantearlywarning   May-11-09 08:39 AM   #105 
   You kidding? This is easily one of small's best posts ever!  Forkboy   May-11-09 12:36 PM   #246 
      You're right at least this time he's not throwing a fit over Obama's "arugula garden". nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   May-11-09 12:59 PM   #261 
   Such stories are our cultural myths.  JackDragna   May-11-09 08:41 AM   #107 
   Yeah! Imagination should shrivel up and die when you turn 18!  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 08:45 AM   #110 
   So what are acceptable things for adults to do and think?  stray cat   May-11-09 08:49 AM   #114 
   Oh you know...An evening at the gentleman's club discussing Wittgenstein over a game of backgammon  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 08:51 AM   #115 
      Sounds like a good evening to me!  JackDragna   May-11-09 08:54 AM   #118 
      Well hell, let's just get hammered and go see Star Trek  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 08:57 AM   #121 
      And in the other hand  sarge43   May-11-09 09:09 AM   #127 
      Or sucking mustard out of the packets.  Gidney N Cloyd   May-11-09 10:20 AM   #164 
         In the parking lot!  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 10:27 AM   #173 
         The Wal-Mart parking lot. n/t  sarge43   May-11-09 10:36 AM   #187 
         DUzy!  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:29 PM   #338 
   It's not just about the KAPOWs. There are many discernible delights to  saltpoint   May-11-09 09:02 AM   #123 
   And don't forget about V !  distantearlywarning   May-11-09 10:19 AM   #161 
      Yep -- I got to see that film in a group of people who initially  saltpoint   May-11-09 09:41 PM   #410 
   Why doesn't everyone think exactly like you do?!!  TexasObserver   May-11-09 09:08 AM   #126 
   "What does it mean when it seems like virtually every other movie that comes out...  Orsino   May-11-09 09:25 AM   #130 
   You're a fool. Only a fool passes absolutist judgement over people's choice of entertainment.  Political Heretic   May-11-09 09:31 AM   #132 
   Almost all the super heroes I can think of are adults, not prepubescents.  saltpoint   May-11-09 09:31 AM   #133 
   the most bizarre poutrage i have ever read on DU...  dionysus   May-11-09 09:35 AM   #135 
   PS - its morning now so small's sobered up after another drunken asshole post to DU  Political Heretic   May-11-09 09:39 AM   #138 
   You're an ass.  Raineyb   May-11-09 09:52 AM   #140 
   adult entertainment has always included fantasy  paulsby   May-11-09 09:56 AM   #142 
   If super hero-type films are not to your liking, you could post a thread  saltpoint   May-11-09 10:06 AM   #147 
   Why should I care about explaining it to you?  lumberjack_jeff   May-11-09 10:09 AM   #149 
   No wonder you drink alone.  Starbucks Anarchist   May-11-09 10:10 AM   #150 
   Because it's fun, light-heared and entertaining  NeedleCast   May-11-09 10:11 AM   #151 
   It seems that adults are not obsessing about adolescent fantasies so much as  saltpoint   May-11-09 10:13 AM   #154 
   I wonder the same thing about baseball, basketball, football and hockey.  notadmblnd   May-11-09 10:15 AM   #157 
   Sports are closely intertwined w/the prevailing corporate culture ideology  Echo In Light   May-11-09 10:19 AM   #162 
   Picked last for kickball, were we? n/t  Raskolnik   May-11-09 10:22 AM   #168 
   Was never interested. Camping, music, and smoking pot were much funner  Echo In Light   May-11-09 10:27 AM   #176 
   grammar, on the other hand, must have been a drag  onenote   May-11-09 10:29 AM   #180 
      How so?  Echo In Light   May-11-09 10:32 AM   #183 
         funner / more fun  DireStrike   May-11-09 10:55 AM   #200 
            Do you actually suppose that strict adherence to grammar is what prompted the poster?  Echo In Light   May-11-09 11:03 AM   #205 
               No, I followed the conversation through subject lines  DireStrike   May-11-09 02:41 PM   #313 
                  Correct grammar wasn't the issue, my perspective on the topic was. Hence the veiled criticism.  Echo In Light   May-11-09 02:44 PM   #314 
   The very fact you would post something like this and even REMOTELY  TheWatcher   May-11-09 05:08 PM   #376 
      I calls 'em like I sees 'em.  Raskolnik   May-11-09 08:23 PM   #402 
   "Submission to authority"?  rockymountaindem   May-11-09 11:00 AM   #204 
   You're verifying the point: those who are #1 often enjoy the servitude of others  Echo In Light   May-11-09 11:09 AM   #209 
   I read something Noam Chomsky wrote on the subject of sports.  Marr   May-11-09 11:24 AM   #219 
      From what I've read, or seen of him in interviews, no to your 1st, yes to your 2nd  Echo In Light   May-11-09 11:42 AM   #228 
   Or golf, which the OP seems inordinately fond of.  Withywindle   May-11-09 03:05 PM   #324 
      Ever hear George Carlin's scathing social critique, Golf Courses for The Homeless?  Echo In Light   May-11-09 03:10 PM   #328 
   As a kid in the 70s/80s, neither Star Wars/Star Trek did it for me, yet I loved science fiction  Echo In Light   May-11-09 10:17 AM   #158 
   Well, to be fair, I did enjoy Star Trek's initial television incarnation...  Echo In Light   May-11-09 10:43 AM   #194 
   Sez a guy posting on an internet messageboard at 12:30 am. n/t  Raskolnik   May-11-09 10:18 AM   #159 
   Because sometimes reality sucks. Our imaginations fuel the healing of minds. nt  onehandle   May-11-09 10:21 AM   #166 
   Because studios are looking for a mass audience, which these days means teenagers  Lydia Leftcoast   May-11-09 10:25 AM   #169 
   Do you think meaningless fluff entertainment was invented in yours?  SemiCharmedQuark   May-11-09 10:35 AM   #185 
   No, but it's crowding out financing for high-quality stuff  Lydia Leftcoast   May-11-09 10:53 AM   #199 
      Do you believe this was not the case at some point in the past? n/t  Raskolnik   May-11-09 01:31 PM   #275 
         No, of course not  Lydia Leftcoast   May-11-09 01:35 PM   #281 
            Then your point is not valid.  Raskolnik   May-11-09 02:13 PM   #298 
   Agree w/you on movies. Sundance, and IFC show many good ones  Echo In Light   May-11-09 10:40 AM   #190 
   All is vanity and vexation of Spirit  sarge43   May-11-09 11:42 AM   #229 
   That was a very good rant!!!  Manifestor_of_Light   May-12-09 12:27 AM   #433 
      Thanks, but it wasn't meant to be a rant.  sarge43   May-12-09 07:54 AM   #457 
   'good' movie. I hate that. Whatever made you happy for two hours  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:33 PM   #340 
      "Good" in the critical sense.  Starbucks Anarchist   May-11-09 04:19 PM   #359 
   Because not all adults are snobs.  aikoaiko   May-11-09 10:25 AM   #170 
   I can think of only two things to say about the OP  Giant Robot   May-11-09 10:26 AM   #171 
   you had me at....  slick514   May-11-09 10:26 AM   #172 
   As one of the DU nerds  Giant Robot   May-11-09 10:44 AM   #196 
   "We had a slinky once... but we straightened it."  kenfrequed   May-11-09 10:27 AM   #174 
   hehe... I seriously don't know but am forced to play along a lot of times  ecstatic   May-11-09 10:29 AM   #178 
   Why would an educated, intelligent adult spend time in nonproductive arguments on an Internet forum?  slackmaster   May-11-09 10:29 AM   #179 
   Because some adults grew up with Batman and Star Trek  Arkana   May-11-09 10:32 AM   #182 
   Because the movies are entertaining, and I like being entertained  HarukaTheTrophyWife   May-11-09 10:35 AM   #184 
   Star Trek is The Odyssey.  smoogatz   May-11-09 10:42 AM   #193 
   You're right. It's much better to spend time posting attention-seeking trolls on teh internets  jgraz   May-11-09 10:52 AM   #198 
   My cat's breath smells like cat food.  flvegan   May-11-09 10:57 AM   #202 
   Well said, Joe the plumber. n/t  bluedawg12   May-11-09 10:57 AM   #203 
   Check out this thread:  hedgehog   May-11-09 11:05 AM   #206 
   "Like I was at my local bar on Friday night"  nini   May-11-09 11:05 AM   #207 
   And like, omigod, these TOTAL dorks were discussing Star Trek!  distantearlywarning   May-11-09 02:37 PM   #311 
      you've got that down  nini   May-11-09 11:15 PM   #417 
   I will attempt to answer your question seriously: Mythology & Storytelling  IdaBriggs   May-11-09 11:13 AM   #210 
   Theodore Sturgeon's More Than Human  Echo In Light   May-11-09 11:17 AM   #211 
   Why do you choose to go to a bar and drink? That's kind of juvenile in my opinion.  madmom   May-11-09 11:18 AM   #212 
   Succinctly and perfectly put. (nt)  redqueen   May-11-09 01:00 PM   #262 
   How is an activity expressly denied to minors juvenile? NT  dmallind   May-11-09 01:34 PM   #280 
      Acting juvenile and being juvenile can be two different things.  madmom   May-11-09 02:05 PM   #295 
   I'm recommending a film to watch that will explain it to you:  NYCGirl   May-11-09 11:18 AM   #213 
   Good recommendation! I know the film well. n/t  RufusTFirefly   May-11-09 11:28 AM   #220 
      It's one of my favorites, and pretty much says it all. NT  NYCGirl   May-11-09 11:35 AM   #223 
         I'm very fond of it too, although it's really one of the oddest Sturges films  RufusTFirefly   May-11-09 11:41 AM   #226 
            That's one of the things I love about it. I can't remember any other film that  NYCGirl   May-11-09 11:49 AM   #232 
               Agree in all respects. But I think it confounded general audiences.  RufusTFirefly   May-11-09 12:10 PM   #237 
                  I pretty much adore everything Preston Sturges did. even "The Sin of  NYCGirl   May-11-09 12:28 PM   #242 
                     Then you may enjoy "Between Flops"  RufusTFirefly   May-11-09 12:38 PM   #250 
                        Thank you. Haven't read that. There's a very good PBS docu on him in the  NYCGirl   May-11-09 12:47 PM   #253 
   'Superman on the Couch' Explores American Psyche  bridgit   May-11-09 11:18 AM   #214 
   It's called "allegory".  johnaries   May-11-09 11:19 AM   #215 
   I do not care anymore.  Kansas Wyatt   May-11-09 11:23 AM   #218 
   um.... I'll overlook the fact that your OP is needlessly insulting  Lerkfish   May-11-09 11:38 AM   #225 
   "Drunk bewails straights involved in trivia..."  Dogtown   May-11-09 11:43 AM   #230 
   What's a "normal"?  SeattleGirl   May-11-09 11:43 AM   #231 
   Because geeks rule the world.  Mythsaje   May-11-09 12:04 PM   #233 
   I don't really have anything to add to your post  Giant Robot   May-11-09 02:52 PM   #317 
      A slight misquote, I think now,  Mythsaje   May-11-09 08:02 PM   #401 
         I'll try to watch it to see  Giant Robot   May-11-09 08:39 PM   #403 
   You mean as opposed to something relevant and deep  wolfgangmo   May-11-09 12:07 PM   #235 
   Thanks for the laugh, George Will.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-11-09 12:25 PM   #239 
   Why the hell do you care  RedCappedBandit   May-11-09 12:26 PM   #240 
   I'm 51 years old  MicaelS   May-11-09 12:28 PM   #243 
   One Word - MYTHOLOGY  kpominville   May-11-09 12:34 PM   #245 
   Nice post, Grandpa.  Forkboy   May-11-09 12:37 PM   #248 
   Have you done this yet?  redqueen   May-11-09 12:37 PM   #249 
   Agreed. There is so much more important things to discuss than junk such as that.  Xenotime   May-11-09 12:48 PM   #254 
   Wow, you're historyless, aren't you?  KitSileya   May-11-09 12:52 PM   #255 
   The op doesn't believe  NYCGirl   May-11-09 12:58 PM   #259 
   After being forced to watch X-Men2 6 times for a job a few years back  BuelahWitch   May-11-09 12:56 PM   #257 
   Superheroes=Ancient mythological stories  Dappleganger   May-11-09 01:11 PM   #267 
   WTF? Get your nose OUT of my recreation!  Trailrider1951   May-11-09 01:27 PM   #272 
   Wasn't "V for Vendetta" originally a graphic novel?  AspenRose   May-11-09 01:29 PM   #273 
   Because we cannot spend all our time in the depth of politics  nadinbrzezinski   May-11-09 01:30 PM   #274 
   explored racism, first interracial kiss. Nichelle Nichols was asked  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:43 PM   #343 
      Yep, but hey it is just juvenila  nadinbrzezinski   May-11-09 04:24 PM   #362 
   Because Oscar winning movies...  DatManFromNawlins   May-11-09 01:33 PM   #277 
   It's better than boy-meets-tractor love stories  Taverner   May-11-09 01:34 PM   #279 
   And the "Normals" wonder why we giggle and laugh at them so.  TheWatcher   May-11-09 01:49 PM   #282 
   Yes, we are a bit more immature. But that's okay  Ishoutandscream2   May-11-09 01:54 PM   #286 
   talk about your appropriate screen names...  dysfunctional press   May-11-09 01:58 PM   #292 
   An old (as in 86) friend of mine invented half of those characters  DFW   May-11-09 02:03 PM   #293 
   Not asking you to name drop or anything  Giant Robot   May-11-09 03:13 PM   #330 
   I will, if you really want. He's still pretty down to earth  DFW   May-11-09 10:30 PM   #412 
      the great Stan Lee  Uzybone   May-12-09 11:56 PM   #473 
         And he's STILL at it  DFW   May-13-09 08:21 AM   #474 
   What a cool guy to know! (not too hard to figure out who you're talking about)  Gidney N Cloyd   May-11-09 03:31 PM   #339 
   It's a long story, but yes, I've known him for a few years now.  DFW   May-11-09 10:38 PM   #413 
   EXCELSIOR!  TheWatcher   May-11-09 05:13 PM   #378 
   And he STILL signs his emails that way! n/t  DFW   May-11-09 10:41 PM   #414 
      You lucky dog!  proteus_lives   May-11-09 11:31 PM   #421 
         I will!  DFW   May-12-09 08:32 AM   #459 
   Yep he is pretty down to earth  nadinbrzezinski   May-12-09 12:33 AM   #434 
   Can I just say, I really admire your friend?  ebdarcy   May-13-09 10:01 AM   #475 
      I think he does, although he tends to make flippant remarks about it  DFW   May-13-09 11:26 AM   #476 
   the age of fantasy  centristgrandpa   May-11-09 02:04 PM   #294 
   It's fun.  Deep13   May-11-09 02:06 PM   #296 
   I hope everyone posting here has already called to support single payer!  redqueen   May-11-09 02:06 PM   #297 
   Why don't you care about Darfur? n/t  Raskolnik   May-11-09 02:15 PM   #299 
      The meeting is tomorrow!  redqueen   May-11-09 02:19 PM   #300 
         And global warming is an ongoing threat, which you apparently don't care about either  Raskolnik   May-11-09 02:22 PM   #301 
            If you don't want to call, don't!  redqueen   May-11-09 02:27 PM   #305 
               And I can't force you to care about all those other issues, either.  Raskolnik   May-11-09 02:29 PM   #307 
                  Is there some big meeting on one of those issues going on soon?  redqueen   May-11-09 02:31 PM   #308 
                  For those of us that care, it is an ongoing process.  Raskolnik   May-11-09 02:34 PM   #310 
                     LOL  redqueen   May-11-09 02:39 PM   #312 
                     why are you berating Redqueen? Jeez. Go kick someone else.  roguevalley   May-11-09 03:46 PM   #345 
                        You could have called your congressman twice in the time it took you to read this sub-thread  Raskolnik   May-11-09 03:59 PM   #350 
                           and you assume people haven't. killjoys everywhere today.  roguevalley   May-11-09 04:16 PM   #354 
                           I believe you misunderstand my point.  Raskolnik   May-11-09 04:19 PM   #358 
                           FWIW  sarge43   May-11-09 05:12 PM   #377 
                  are you sarcastic or fucking nuts? nt  rch35   May-11-09 03:18 PM   #332 
                     I believe I was pointing out the holier-than-thou nature of chastising participants  Raskolnik   May-11-09 03:58 PM   #349 
                        I didn't chastise anyone... I only expressed my hopes  redqueen   May-11-09 06:54 PM   #397 
   Just because I feel you need to be schooled some more...  Cheap_Trick   May-11-09 02:26 PM   #303 
   Because they like it. Many people have something they enjoy that others might find silly  RB TexLa   May-11-09 02:26 PM   #304 
   I like to watch drag racing. I also like art museums. Lighten up.  Throd   May-11-09 02:27 PM   #306 
   The wisdom of the bar-stool eh?  Seldona   May-11-09 02:53 PM   #318 
   It's definitely stool-related.  jgraz   May-11-09 04:29 PM   #364 
   Not a fan of X-men  Dorian Gray   May-11-09 02:55 PM   #319 
   I guess you thought being a dickweed in a garden of intelligent people would be fun?  DainBramaged   May-11-09 03:02 PM   #323 
   Well, How else do you expect Apes to Communicate?  TheWatcher   May-11-09 03:11 PM   #329 
      Great point  DainBramaged   May-11-09 05:28 PM   #382 
   Yeah all those ancient bards and storytellers  YankeyMCC   May-11-09 03:08 PM   #327 
   A lot of them grew up with this stuff as kids.  W_HAMILTON   May-11-09 03:19 PM   #333 
   I count myself as fortunate that  Undercurrent   May-11-09 03:24 PM   #336 
   I think that this post is a joke.  ContraBass Black   May-11-09 03:33 PM   #341 
   I am a 33 year old woman with two kids who loves comics and the movies based on them  Jennicut   May-11-09 03:43 PM   #344 
   This is why I only watch Adult Films. n/t  rucky   May-11-09 04:12 PM   #352 
   I took you off ignore so I could add to the fun here.  Starry Messenger   May-11-09 04:17 PM   #357 
   So. What's the story behind that picture?  sarge43   May-11-09 11:27 PM   #420 
      It's from the opening credits of "Watchmen"  Starry Messenger   May-11-09 11:35 PM   #423 
         What a great idea. Now I'll have to see it.  sarge43   May-11-09 11:45 PM   #428 
   masturbatory faux intellectualism. nt  Javaman   May-11-09 04:23 PM   #360 
   "The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play."  baldguy   May-11-09 04:28 PM   #363 
   Okay, I will take the statue of the Thinker and put a beanie on his head. Or, worse,  Deja Q   May-11-09 04:37 PM   #367 
   Until you play Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor on the accordion,  sarge43   May-11-09 04:52 PM   #372 
      So do you know about Larry Adler?  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 05:14 PM   #379 
         As a matter of fact, I do.  sarge43   May-11-09 05:18 PM   #380 
            Normal is very boring.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 05:48 PM   #389 
               GMTA  sarge43   May-11-09 06:33 PM   #395 
                  I had to look up GMTA.  Manifestor_of_Light   May-12-09 11:31 PM   #472 
   So it upsets you that 'smart', middle class fellas like superfluous minutiae?  Rex   May-11-09 05:03 PM   #375 
   And you surely have NO hobbies or interests or passions...  InvisibleTouch   May-11-09 05:27 PM   #381 
   No, he lives vicariously through the shitting and urinating on of other people's happiness and  TheWatcher   May-11-09 05:31 PM   #384 
   I think you're assigning his motives too much complexity.  Withywindle   May-12-09 12:11 AM   #431 
   Of course he does.  Starbucks Anarchist   May-11-09 05:33 PM   #385 
   I never really got into comic books.  OHDEM   May-11-09 05:45 PM   #388 
   So why DO Adults like Professional Sports???  Manifestor_of_Light   May-11-09 06:28 PM   #393 
   I sooooo want to answer that question.  redqueen   May-11-09 06:57 PM   #398 
   I think that's an easy one.  cherokeeprogressive   May-11-09 09:40 PM   #409 
   That's a damned good question. nt  Jade Fox   May-11-09 06:31 PM   #394 
   Perhaps the People You Overheard Were Being Juvenile,  On the Road   May-11-09 06:44 PM   #396 
   It really BUGS you when other people are happy, doesn't it?  Richard Steele   May-11-09 07:00 PM   #399 
   Let's settle it like the cowboys do:  villager   May-11-09 07:12 PM   #400 
   What are you fucking kidding?  walldude   May-11-09 09:28 PM   #405 
   Perhaps they have superior imaginative abilities  JerseygirlCT   May-11-09 09:34 PM   #406 
   Comic book stories are allegories dealing with the human condition...  armyowalgreens   May-11-09 10:44 PM   #415 
   maybe you will understand  ibegurpard   May-11-09 10:48 PM   #416 
   I'm mildly interested in the star trek movie  Ex Lurker   May-11-09 11:37 PM   #424 
   THANK YOU, SMALLL! I couldn't care less about the "backstory" of Kirk and Spock.  quiet.american   May-11-09 11:43 PM   #426 
   You heard one conversation, and made a value judgement  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   May-11-09 11:45 PM   #427 
   I see what you're saying, but I wasn't really specifically judging the men discussing Batman.  smalll   May-12-09 12:11 AM   #432 
   "now and then"?  Warren DeMontague   May-12-09 01:45 AM   #440 
   So what is art? I mean I am proof positive you do KNOW  nadinbrzezinski   May-12-09 02:41 AM   #447 
   standing athwart bad taste and yelling "Stop!".... you mean William F. Buckley style?  Warren DeMontague   May-12-09 02:49 AM   #448 
   What is bad taste?  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   May-12-09 06:25 AM   #455 
   Science fiction: trash written and enjoyed by abnormals  sarge43   May-12-09 11:13 PM   #471 
   I don't mean to alarm you, dude, but you've got a liquid metal terminator in your sig pic.  Warren DeMontague   May-12-09 01:47 AM   #441 
      Hey! Don't bring that up.......  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   May-12-09 06:18 AM   #454 
         I'm an overgrown adolescent, yes indeed.  Warren DeMontague   May-12-09 03:43 PM   #467 
   I don't know about those other ones, but Star Trek rocks!  Skip Intro   May-11-09 11:49 PM   #430 
   C'mon. You know perfectly well you can't STAND these imaginary 'latte types' of yours.  Warren DeMontague   May-12-09 01:43 AM   #439 
   Translation:I don't understand it  TZ   May-12-09 02:54 AM   #449 
   Star Trek (and most sci-fi) was never meant for children.  Kitty Herder   May-12-09 06:28 AM   #456 
   THANK YOU! I was waiting for you to weigh in on this!! Keep us posted!!  didact   May-12-09 09:01 AM   #460 
   The standard criticism of progressives is that they feel too much  MicaelS   May-12-09 09:59 AM   #462 
   A revealing bit of projection/switcheroo since repubs/fundies buy into state propaganda more than...  Echo In Light   May-12-09 11:06 AM   #465 
   I bet Homer would have pissed you off if you had lived in ancient Greece. n/t  Sanctified   May-12-09 04:21 PM   #468 
   Damn, who would've thought THIS would be a hot topic?  riverdeep   May-12-09 04:59 PM   #469 
   Because real life sucks and fantasy via movies is a reprieve.  Avalux   May-12-09 05:05 PM   #470 
 

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