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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. He's a maverick...
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  -Why is Mc Cain a hero... butterfly77  Apr-02-07 04:53 PM   #0 
  - Former Navy Pilot who spent 6 years as a POW...  driver8   Apr-02-07 04:55 PM   #1 
  - What he endured was FUCKING heroic, indeed. Too bad he blew it by rolling over  Redstone   Apr-02-07 04:59 PM   #7 
     - Well said. Sad to see him fritter it all away  Kagemusha   Apr-02-07 05:03 PM   #11 
     - Yes it is, but I can tell you from experience that when the factor of age is applied,  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:10 PM   #19 
        - We were young once...nt  Javaman   Apr-04-07 01:19 PM   #106 
     - I agree -- Shrub screwed him over and he took it and went back for more.  driver8   Apr-03-07 01:18 AM   #71 
  - He was taken as a prisoner once?  htuttle   Apr-02-07 04:55 PM   #2 
  - During Vietnam.  Tiggeroshii   Apr-03-07 05:38 AM   #78 
  - vietnam POW  maxsolomon   Apr-02-07 04:55 PM   #3 
  - It's more than his six years as a POW. He was offered an early  Ilsa   Apr-02-07 04:57 PM   #4 
  - Thanks for mentioning that part. He did well, indeed. Until he lost the primary.  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:01 PM   #9 
  - OK, that is a bit heroic  tkmorris   Apr-02-07 05:13 PM   #25 
  - It's actually true, and it was heroic even by your standards.  Geoff R. Casavant   Apr-02-07 05:37 PM   #40 
  - Returning to the OP, though, "is" is not the right verb.  Orsino   Apr-02-07 06:30 PM   #56 
     - Right. "Was" is a better word  gilpo   Apr-04-07 01:11 PM   #103 
  - It is true. This isn't "their" noise. This has been known for decades.  Ilsa   Apr-02-07 06:49 PM   #58 
  - If I'm not mistaken,  Wilber_Stool   Apr-02-07 06:55 PM   #60 
  - His father was not just any Admiral  mduffy31   Apr-04-07 03:11 PM   #130 
  - Frankly he is a hero  Pawel K   Apr-02-07 04:58 PM   #5 
  - What did he do that was heroic?  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:04 PM   #12 
     - Read the posts here again  Pawel K   Apr-02-07 05:07 PM   #14 
     - Did he do any fighting?  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:08 PM   #17 
     - Of course he did  Pawel K   Apr-02-07 05:10 PM   #20 
     - All I did was ask the question..  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:11 PM   #22 
     - Uh, yes, he did. Got shot down, and landed in a pond with a whole bunch of people  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:13 PM   #24 
     - I'm am not arguing...  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:15 PM   #29 
        - The way he acted during his captivity gave his that status, for me. I even registered  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:17 PM   #33 
           - Did I say anything about ...  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:20 PM   #35 
           - I think he's angry (or annoyed) because you asked the original question and  driver8   Apr-03-07 01:23 AM   #72 
              - I guess it goes back to what the meaning of is Is...  butterfly77   Apr-03-07 06:20 PM   #92 
           - Hear, hear!  Geoff R. Casavant   Apr-02-07 05:39 PM   #42 
           - I also voted for him in the primaries in 2000...  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:43 PM   #45 
           - There's no questioning his heroism, imho  Juniperx   Apr-02-07 05:53 PM   #48 
     - Ever made a night trap on a carrier deck?  11 Bravo   Apr-02-07 05:17 PM   #31 
        - Not by some on this board...  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:21 PM   #36 
        - I did ONE during the DAY as a passenger in an F-4 once, and that was MORE  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:28 PM   #39 
     - He cooperated with the North Vietnamese and signed a confession of war crimes  Toots   Apr-03-07 08:23 AM   #88 
        - McCain ran against Bush in 2004?  Bronyraurus   Apr-04-07 03:04 PM   #128 
     - He kept the faith and refused early release.  11 Bravo   Apr-02-07 05:12 PM   #23 
  - He did what ANY living organism would have done.. Tried his best to not die.  SoCalDem   Apr-02-07 04:59 PM   #6 
  - On the contrary...  ljm2002   Apr-02-07 05:02 PM   #10 
  - There is that one redeeming fact, but remember how disappointed his Dad would have been in him  SoCalDem   Apr-02-07 05:07 PM   #15 
  - You're being an ass  Pawel K   Apr-02-07 05:09 PM   #18 
  - Um... I voted for McCain in our primary.. I just don't think he's a "hero"  SoCalDem   Apr-02-07 05:14 PM   #26 
     - Maybe he'd be able to use his arms  Bronyraurus   Apr-04-07 03:07 PM   #129 
  - "these things get amplified"  ljm2002   Apr-02-07 05:17 PM   #32 
  - Well, I've never been held POW with a broken leg and had several  lectrobyte   Apr-03-07 08:00 AM   #85 
  - It is still heroic  karynnj   Apr-03-07 08:35 AM   #89 
     - Yes..courage.. I agree with that:)  SoCalDem   Apr-03-07 08:47 AM   #90 
  - I feel badly that he's put himself in this position  Juniperx   Apr-02-07 05:41 PM   #44 
  - Uh, excuse me, but I actually AM "a neighbor who rushed into a burning home," and I still  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:15 PM   #30 
  - Red, I never said i did not respect what he did. I just don't  SoCalDem   Apr-02-07 05:18 PM   #34 
     - OK, point well-taken. No anger here; I just wanted to point out that he could  Redstone   Apr-02-07 05:27 PM   #38 
  - I'd say even a fireman rushing into burnign home to save someone is heroic  electron_blue   Apr-04-07 12:41 PM   #100 
  - according to the Bush campaign in 2000, absolutely nothing  ComerPerro   Apr-02-07 05:00 PM   #8 
  - Before he was taken prisoner, he was throwing bombs on people's heads. nt  thereismore   Apr-02-07 05:05 PM   #13 
  - I was just gonna say that. Could you blame the VC for making him a POW?  tblue   Apr-02-07 05:11 PM   #21 
  - I can blame them, yes.  spoony   Apr-03-07 06:32 AM   #79 
     - There's no crime in holding in custody the people who are bombing you. Torture, on the other hand,  tblue   Apr-03-07 07:43 PM   #96 
        - You think the N.Vietnamese didn't torture people?  spoony   Apr-04-07 12:27 PM   #97 
           - You think the US didn't torture the Vietnamese?????  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 12:33 PM   #98 
              - How does that make what happened to McCain okay?  spoony   Apr-04-07 12:51 PM   #101 
                 - I keep forgetting that everyone is bad but we're good...  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:02 PM   #102 
                    - Whose posts are you reading?  spoony   Apr-04-07 01:11 PM   #104 
                       - My argument is that John McCain is not a hero.  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:15 PM   #105 
                          - Yes and you've made it so convincingly  spoony   Apr-04-07 01:20 PM   #107 
                             - Okay, let's hear what is so heroic about him?  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:32 PM   #111 
                                - Ah yes, more of your time machine  spoony   Apr-04-07 01:40 PM   #115 
                                   - Hmm, funny I always though heroes saved lives...  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:46 PM   #116 
                                      - Grand, become what you hate.  spoony   Apr-04-07 01:54 PM   #117 
                                         - Make shit up much?  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:56 PM   #118 
                                            - Make what up? Your words condemn you.  spoony   Apr-04-07 02:00 PM   #121 
                                               - The difference is that Kerry deserved his medals and McCain is really a pussy.  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 02:01 PM   #122 
                                                  - I can't do anything but laugh at you at this point.  spoony   Apr-04-07 02:09 PM   #123 
                                                  - No problem - I don't take you seriously either.  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 02:11 PM   #124 
                                                  - Uh, McCain and Kerry both served in the same war ...  dbaker41   Apr-04-07 02:25 PM   #125 
                                                  - I'm not making any logical arguments, I'm simply making blanket statements to annoy people  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 03:33 PM   #131 
                                                  - It's working.  dbaker41   Apr-04-07 03:35 PM   #132 
                                                  - I'm glad to hear that. You want to know why?  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 03:52 PM   #133 
  - Well he is a hero! That's what hero's do. Blow people to smithereens!  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:57 PM   #119 
  - any person that has seen the damage war causes  onethatcares   Apr-02-07 05:08 PM   #16 
  - You are so right.  bigwillq   Apr-02-07 05:44 PM   #46 
  - Have you seen it first-hand? Just curious; I have, and I agree 100% with you.  Redstone   Apr-02-07 06:11 PM   #50 
     - War is better kept theroetical  krispos42   Apr-04-07 01:33 PM   #112 
  - At one time he was an honored war vet, like Colon Powell. Yet he  Rex   Apr-02-07 05:14 PM   #27 
  - Read about McCain's experience in Vietnam below. He is a real hero.  jody   Apr-02-07 05:14 PM   #28 
  - Hero or Zero?  The_Casual_Observer   Apr-02-07 05:25 PM   #37 
  - I'm empathetic to his heroics  Juniperx   Apr-02-07 05:37 PM   #41 
  - like?  SoCalDem   Apr-02-07 05:39 PM   #43 
     - Oh, yeah... that's scary  Juniperx   Apr-02-07 05:49 PM   #47 
        - He's a maverick...  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 05:58 PM   #49 
           - McLame was a hero. Now he is pathetic.  Disturbed   Apr-02-07 06:27 PM   #55 
  - I really do feel sorry for him  nevergiveup   Apr-02-07 06:16 PM   #51 
  - He's done enough... he needs to take care of himself now  Juniperx   Apr-02-07 06:25 PM   #54 
  - Funny how our lurking pissants are so selective in their copying of messages...and yes, that's  Redstone   Apr-02-07 06:21 PM   #52 
  - We know ....  butterfly77   Apr-02-07 07:49 PM   #63 
  - Ah, so you've noticed my message. BC, in particular, check the post history about the time  Redstone   Apr-02-07 10:05 PM   #64 
  - He sold his soul to Bush  marlakay   Apr-02-07 06:24 PM   #53 
  - I think what we're really arguing about here is the definition of "hero"  Poiuyt   Apr-02-07 06:36 PM   #57 
  - Thank You...  butterfly77   Apr-03-07 06:22 PM   #93 
  - I'd say climbing in the cockpit of a fighter jet to fly combat missions qualifies  dbaker41   Apr-04-07 02:32 PM   #126 
  - He lost any credibility as a POW war hero...  Bornaginhooligan   Apr-02-07 06:51 PM   #59 
  - McCain was gonna blow up a powerplant before he was caught.  IChing   Apr-02-07 07:01 PM   #61 
  - Everything a "hero" does is NOT heroic, all their time is not "hero time"  uppityperson   Apr-02-07 07:07 PM   #62 
  - Yes, you can, and yes, you are indeed. Well-summarized.  Redstone   Apr-02-07 10:19 PM   #65 
  - It's very easy to sit  Katzenkavalier   Apr-02-07 10:28 PM   #66 
  - We know ...  butterfly77   Apr-03-07 06:27 PM   #94 
  - I'm sure the Vietnamese consider him a great hero, for  Gabi Hayes   Apr-02-07 10:31 PM   #67 
  - McCain was a war hero but he has a history of screwing things up for himself  Jennicut   Apr-02-07 11:04 PM   #69 
  - Let's not Swiftboat McCain....  whoneedstickets   Apr-02-07 10:44 PM   #68 
  - He's a POW who now turns his back on other POWs & Vets!  AZBlue   Apr-02-07 11:26 PM   #70 
  - He is a hero because he hurts the refucklican party every time he opens his big, fat mouth.  Swamp Rat   Apr-03-07 01:28 AM   #73 
  - He murdered innocents for the sake of global capitalism. That makes him a hero  ConsAreLiars   Apr-03-07 02:06 AM   #74 
  - By your lights  cali   Apr-03-07 08:09 AM   #87 
     - Hindsight is always 20-20, didn't you know that?  dbaker41   Apr-04-07 02:36 PM   #127 
        - I was alive. I was a toddler but I was alive. Vietnam was still a waste of time, money and lives...  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 03:56 PM   #134 
           - You have the benefit of hindsight we didn't have in the 60s.  dbaker41   Apr-04-07 04:09 PM   #135 
              - What I'm doing may not be right but at least I'm not being paying BIG $$$$ to do it.  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 04:24 PM   #136 
  - McCain ws a hero back in the Nam era - today he's a Bushbot...  Imagevision   Apr-03-07 02:14 AM   #75 
  - That was then, this is now  WilliamPitt   Apr-03-07 02:18 AM   #76 
  - He walked the streets of Baghdad without body armour!  B Calm   Apr-03-07 05:14 AM   #77 
  - That's not true. He wore body armor and had 100+ US soldiers as bodyguards for his photo-op. (nt)  w4rma   Apr-03-07 06:40 AM   #81 
  - He wore a flak jacket.  The Lost Patriot   Apr-03-07 06:46 AM   #83 
  - He is definitely worthy of the title "hero". Unfortunately, the last time he was heroic was long ago  w4rma   Apr-03-07 06:38 AM   #80 
  - The heroic part was not the captivity issue...  The Lost Patriot   Apr-03-07 06:42 AM   #82 
  - I can't even believe this is a question. He survived the ultimate  wienerdoggie   Apr-03-07 07:04 PM   #95 
  - for similar reasons as why Kerry is, but don't expect to  treestar   Apr-03-07 06:48 AM   #84 
  - I barely see people here acknowledge it. n/t  spoony   Apr-04-07 01:21 PM   #108 
  - McCain ....Lindbergh  Malikshah   Apr-03-07 08:06 AM   #86 
  - I have diabetes--I'm NOT diabetic. Yes, it's relevant here.  blondeatlast   Apr-03-07 09:09 AM   #91 
  - What's so heroic about having your plane shot down?  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 12:38 PM   #99 
  - He worked with JOHN KERRY on restoring relations with Vietnam  LSK   Apr-04-07 01:22 PM   #109 
  - Then sat back and did nothing when the Swiftboat liars pissed all over Kerry  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:33 PM   #113 
  - He served in Nam... enough for me  mdmc   Apr-04-07 01:27 PM   #110 
  - He's a war hero, but politically, he is a coward  wicket   Apr-04-07 01:34 PM   #114 
  - Duke Cunningham is a hero too.  devilgrrl   Apr-04-07 01:59 PM   #120 

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