You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #1: As someone else pointed out earlier - in an election year, this will never happen [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
1. As someone else pointed out earlier - in an election year, this will never happen
They'll find the money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -How could Obama and our Dem Congresspeople do this to us? dajoki  May-04-09 01:37 PM   #0 
  - As someone else pointed out earlier - in an election year, this will never happen  eleny   May-04-09 01:39 PM   #1 
  - Riiiight... the same old "Have trust in Obama" schtick.  bobbolink   May-04-09 02:01 PM   #24 
     - Jesus Christ, get a fucking grip.  liberalmuse   May-04-09 02:34 PM   #64 
     - Why must you use that kind of language...  dajoki   May-04-09 02:51 PM   #85 
        - Because that's all they have. No heart. No compassion. Just blasting hurting people.  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:20 PM   #152 
     - Bobbolink, you know how politicians act when their jobs are threatened  eleny   May-04-09 03:54 PM   #134 
        - Well, you can trust that... I don't. Not after all the shit I've seen. Not after all the  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:17 PM   #151 
        - I'm calling and writing and I don't receive Social Security  eleny   May-04-09 08:24 PM   #156 
           - What $500 for people on SSI????  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:51 PM   #158 
              - And I haven't blamed the Republicans or even mentioned them  eleny   May-04-09 09:01 PM   #163 
                 - Thank you very much! I looked all over, and only found one thing.... dated 1-09  bobbolink   May-05-09 09:19 PM   #184 
        - Are YOU going to be the one who will "threaten" them?  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:20 PM   #153 
           - I've already written to my reps in Congress and to the White House  eleny   May-04-09 08:27 PM   #157 
              - Thank you! you can see from the responses in this thread that hardly anyone will even care.  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:55 PM   #159 
  - with a swish and a flick  mikelgb   May-04-09 01:40 PM   #2 
  - Because they are a bunch of corporate fascists who are more vested in the wealth then the people  debbierlus   May-04-09 01:41 PM   #3 
  - If it happens...  dajoki   May-04-09 01:44 PM   #5 
  - your bitter tears are like nectar to my soul....  dionysus   May-04-09 01:52 PM   # 
  - There IS a 2010 adjustment to SS benefits.  MercutioATC   May-04-09 01:43 PM   #4 
  - They can shove their ZERO!! n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 01:45 PM   #6 
  - If they were to adjust the SS benefits, how would they go about doing that?  SemiCharmedQuark   May-04-09 01:47 PM   #7 
  - Here is another twist to this problem.  JDPriestly   May-04-09 02:04 PM   #28 
  - So basically they're saying that the cost of living has not risen.  DireStrike   May-04-09 01:57 PM   #20 
  - It hasn't. We actually had slight DEFLATION in 2008...  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:10 PM   #39 
     - Why on earth are home prices included in inflation  DireStrike   May-04-09 07:06 PM   #146 
     - That is the problem...  dajoki   May-05-09 07:46 AM   #170 
     - Don't shop for groceries, huh? n/t  blindpig   May-05-09 08:46 AM   #171 
  - Tell you what, Montegue  Bluenorthwest   May-04-09 02:01 PM   #25 
  - I don't support the bank bailouts, but that's a separate issue.  MercutioATC   May-04-09 03:05 PM   #97 
     - It is not a separate issue.  blindpig   May-05-09 08:53 AM   #172 
  - Good point. The same formula has been used for years to adjust benefits to account for inflation.  pampango   May-04-09 02:01 PM   #27 
  - I don't get this. Seniors helped put Obama in office  leftstreet   May-04-09 01:48 PM   #8 
  - Exactly!!  dajoki   May-04-09 01:50 PM   #12 
     - George Carlin: "They don't care about you ...at all ...at all ...at all."  Echo In Light   May-04-09 01:52 PM   #17 
        - That's why he didn't vote.  Beacool   May-04-09 02:53 PM   # 
           - And why I did, but not for a Name Brand  Echo In Light   May-04-09 03:39 PM   #132 
  - I don't understand why so many here are upset about this.  sinkingfeeling   May-04-09 01:48 PM   #9 
  - That's kind of my question. To change this, does the president just...change it? Or does congress?  SemiCharmedQuark   May-04-09 01:49 PM   #10 
  - Why change a formula that works well? n/t  quiller4   May-04-09 01:50 PM   #13 
  - Well...aside from the *why* of change, I want to know *how* to change. The outrage seems to be that  SemiCharmedQuark   May-04-09 01:51 PM   #15 
  - It doesn't work well. The consumer price index is totally bogus.  ContinentalOp   May-04-09 02:16 PM   #46 
  - Because it doesn't work well.  Dr.Phool   May-04-09 02:26 PM   #59 
  - It works so well we have millions in poverty, and look at all the homeless people.  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:58 PM   #160 
  - Since the formula is set by law, it would take congress to change it. Why should it be changed?  sinkingfeeling   May-04-09 02:09 PM   #37 
  - Obama has to use his top-secret super-duper time machine and  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:29 PM   #127 
  - You don't understand? TRY WALKING IN OUR SHOES!  bobbolink   May-04-09 02:04 PM   #29 
  - Are you on SS?  sinkingfeeling   May-04-09 02:10 PM   #40 
  - Why are you asking a personal question?  bobbolink   May-04-09 02:20 PM   #53 
     - To walk in your shoes must know your situation. n/t  quiller4   May-04-09 03:13 PM   #108 
        - Actually, all you have to do is have a heart.  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:15 PM   #149 
  - Why didn't I see "you" complaining when you got a 5.8% increase in 2008?  MercutioATC   May-04-09 03:11 PM   #103 
     - YOu're all heart, aren't you? Do you even have any idea what you're talking about?  bobbolink   May-04-09 09:00 PM   #161 
     - Housing costs have gone way down in the past year  scheming daemons   May-05-09 01:03 PM   #177 
        - Libraries have the internet.  Forkboy   May-05-09 01:22 PM   #179 
        - It's much more fun to judge and ridicule than to be logical.  bobbolink   May-05-09 09:32 PM   #187 
        - Cut the damned judgementalism!!  bobbolink   May-05-09 09:31 PM   #186 
     - What about the previous year?  Lugnut   May-05-09 11:39 AM   #175 
        - Thank you, Lugnut, for having the courage to speak up in the midst of this amount of  bobbolink   May-06-09 02:07 PM   #188 
  - Problem is the COLA does not reflect the rises in the expenses of  JDPriestly   May-04-09 02:06 PM   #33 
  - The real problem is that the CPI numbers are totally bogus. -nt-  ContinentalOp   May-04-09 02:16 PM   #47 
  - Speak for yourself. I can't think of an item priced in the CPI  quiller4   May-04-09 02:46 PM   #80 
     - You obviously are not solely dependent on Social Security for your  JDPriestly   May-05-09 03:00 PM   #181 
        - I have a TIAA/CREF pension my older sister has a pension  quiller4   May-06-09 04:25 PM   #189 
  - Are medical expense part of COLA?  question everything   May-04-09 02:33 PM   #63 
  - There are essentially zero physicians in Anchorage  Blue_In_AK   May-04-09 03:01 PM   #94 
  - Because people just want to bitch about Obama.  BlooInBloo   May-04-09 09:00 PM   #162 
  - Why should my husband's social security income rise when  quiller4   May-04-09 01:49 PM   #11 
  - Your cost of living has gone down?! What country do you live in?  leftstreet   May-04-09 01:51 PM   #16 
  - that was my question, as well.  inna   May-04-09 01:58 PM   #21 
  - The cost of almost everything went down in '08... we had DEFLATION  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:13 PM   #42 
  - LOL Most seniors own their homes, can qualify for energy assistance, etc  leftstreet   May-04-09 02:18 PM   #51 
     - The CPI is what it is. Nobody complained about the CPI when it was showing inflation  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:23 PM   #56 
     - Well...they didn't means test the Wall Street Banksters. n/t  leftstreet   May-04-09 02:34 PM   #65 
     - Actually, lots of people complain about the CPI and point out that the numbers are all wrong.  ContinentalOp   May-04-09 02:45 PM   #78 
        - Fine... then tell me what exactly does Obama have to do with this?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:48 PM   #82 
           - Nothing! I never said he had anything to do with it.  ContinentalOp   May-04-09 03:03 PM   #95 
              - The OP did. That's what I was talking about... not you in particular n/t  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:05 PM   #98 
                 - Blind faith??  dajoki   May-04-09 03:12 PM   #106 
                    - In what?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:14 PM   #109 
                       - No...  dajoki   May-04-09 05:41 PM   #139 
                       - BINGO!!!  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:22 PM   #155 
                       - Riiigght! It's the fault of the Republicans. Wait, they are out of power.  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:22 PM   #154 
                          - And you can bet...  dajoki   May-05-09 06:05 AM   #168 
                             - Sean Hannity said something similar to that just yesterday  scheming daemons   May-05-09 01:05 PM   #178 
     - We do own our mobile home but our income is too high  quiller4   May-04-09 02:37 PM   #70 
  - I live in Washington state. Average rents in my county  quiller4   May-04-09 02:35 PM   #68 
  - Cost of living declines are pretty standard in a recession.  Xithras   May-04-09 04:01 PM   #137 
  - I wonder if you're representative of the country at large.  DireStrike   May-04-09 01:55 PM   #19 
  - They do.  Dr.Phool   May-04-09 02:40 PM   #73 
  - Not only have our expenses increased, but our supplemental  JDPriestly   May-04-09 02:08 PM   #35 
  - did they create a period of no inflation under the existing formula?  onenote   May-04-09 01:50 PM   #14 
  - Like the above poster said:  dajoki   May-04-09 01:53 PM   #18 
     - I live in Lakewood, WA about 2 miles from McChord AFB n/t  quiller4   May-04-09 03:24 PM   #121 
     - I live in the real world. The one in which gas prices peaked in summer 08  onenote   May-04-09 03:53 PM   #133 
        - Thank you for your clear and cogent analysis. n/t  quiller4   May-06-09 04:27 PM   #190 
  - And we were supposed to TRUST Obama!  bobbolink   May-04-09 01:59 PM   #22 
  - You're mad at Obama because 2008 was a deflationary year?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:15 PM   #45 
     - What country are you in where prices are "stable"????  bobbolink   May-04-09 02:22 PM   #55 
     - Some responses  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:26 PM   #60 
     - Prices did not go down...  dajoki   May-04-09 02:31 PM   #62 
     - I'm just trying to figure out what you think Obama should have done differently  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:38 PM   #71 
     - 4) change the law n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 02:55 PM   #89 
        - He's not a king. It doesn't work that way.  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:57 PM   #91 
           - Oh, you're so smart, I didn't know that. LOL!! n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 03:05 PM   #96 
              - Based on your OP blaming Obama, it's hard to tell what you know...  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:07 PM   #100 
                 - You are so...  dajoki   May-04-09 03:14 PM   #110 
                    - "Whoever is in office gets the blame"  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:18 PM   #113 
                       - No, he gets the blame for...  dajoki   May-05-09 06:08 AM   #169 
     - Prices on many items have dropped greatly.  quiller4   May-04-09 03:00 PM   #92 
        - Same here in SE GA -- food, fuel, and rent is cheaper now than last year  aikoaiko   May-04-09 11:38 PM   #167 
     - Thanks for the snark. That always gets votes.  bobbolink   May-04-09 02:57 PM   #90 
     - What don't you take your nose down a notch and remember that the people you are demeaning are POOR?  bobbolink   May-04-09 09:03 PM   #164 
     - Don't worry about the lack of stimulus  question everything   May-04-09 03:24 PM   #120 
        - What the hell????? YOu get more money and I don't, but that's OK???  bobbolink   May-04-09 08:15 PM   #148 
           - DLC "compassion" it would seem  Dragonfli   May-04-09 11:21 PM   #166 
           - No, I am just saying that whatever "stimulus" we got  question everything   May-05-09 03:59 PM   #182 
     - Let's see. Prices went down last year.  Dr.Phool   May-04-09 02:53 PM   #86 
        - Sure... pick a handful of items that went up  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:00 PM   #93 
        - He shows you the facts, but you won't listen...  dajoki   May-04-09 03:08 PM   #101 
        - You still haven't said what exactly Obama has done...  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:11 PM   #104 
           - I hate to tell you this but...  dajoki   May-04-09 03:16 PM   #111 
           - Why? To beg you to finally answer the question?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:19 PM   #115 
           - Will you follow Obama off the cliff?  dajoki   May-04-09 03:22 PM   #118 
              - I'm not even sure what the hell you're talking about any more  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:26 PM   #123 
           - You're right... he should be able to go back in time and fix the wrongs of the past  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:27 PM   #125 
              - Nobody can tell me...  dajoki   May-04-09 05:49 PM   #141 
           - He is the President...  dajoki   May-04-09 03:21 PM   #117 
              - If he doesn't fix it before his term is up, you are correct...  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:23 PM   #119 
        - I didn't insinuate Obama did it.  Dr.Phool   May-04-09 03:35 PM   #131 
        - I shop weekly and I do data entry for 2 nonprofits  quiller4   May-04-09 03:29 PM   #129 
        - how much have those prices changed since last October?  onenote   May-04-09 03:57 PM   #135 
  - President Obama is following the law. He was not a US Senator when the law was last revised  Freddie Stubbs   May-04-09 01:59 PM   #23 
  - I'm sorry, but...  dajoki   May-04-09 02:05 PM   #32 
     - So, you want him to 'cook the books?'  Freddie Stubbs   May-05-09 10:16 AM   #174 
  - Government of, by and (especially) FOR the corporations  Individualist   May-04-09 02:01 PM   #26 
  - EXACTLY!! Some of us have wised up, and dropped the blind support!  bobbolink   May-04-09 02:05 PM   #30 
  - Welcome to the 'Corporate Government Store'  Kansas Wyatt   May-04-09 02:35 PM   #67 
  - What are we going to do about it?  damntexdem   May-04-09 02:05 PM   #31 
  - Call your Congress people...  dajoki   May-04-09 02:07 PM   #34 
  - Calling them does no good. We need to camp outside their offices  leftstreet   May-04-09 02:11 PM   #41 
     - I'm with you!! n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 02:18 PM   #50 
  - Keep watching American Idol and yammering on endlessly over fucking sports stats  Echo In Light   May-04-09 02:09 PM   #36 
  - There was no inflation this year, therefore no COLA... seriously.. OUTRAGE over this?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:09 PM   #38 
  - What country are you living in?  Individualist   May-04-09 02:14 PM   #44 
  - But that's not inflation, which is what the formula is tied to.  SemiCharmedQuark   May-04-09 02:17 PM   #48 
  - The COLA is pegged to grocery prices. Has been since it was instituted in the 60s  bobbolink   May-04-09 09:05 PM   #165 
  - You're simply wrong  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:18 PM   #49 
  - Groceries have NOT gone down  Individualist   May-04-09 02:20 PM   #52 
     - Grocery prices here have gone up-up-up over many months  Echo In Light   May-04-09 02:34 PM   #66 
     - Neither I (nor Obama) invented the CPI.....  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:40 PM   #72 
     - Oh YES They Did!  NutmegYankee   May-04-09 05:56 PM   #142 
        - Oh NO, they didn't!  Individualist   May-04-09 06:08 PM   #144 
           - And yet mine went down, and others here report the same...  NutmegYankee   May-04-09 07:37 PM   #147 
  - Utility rate down 3%, car insurance down 8%, grocery bill down  quiller4   May-04-09 03:11 PM   #105 
  - I'm sure that you do not live on a fixed income n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 02:26 PM   #61 
     - How sure are you?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:41 PM   #74 
     - Then I feel bad for you...  dajoki   May-04-09 02:48 PM   #81 
     - I'm not unsympathetic... I'm asking... WHAT DOES OBAMA HAVE TO DO WITH IT?  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:51 PM   #84 
        - He's the President, and...  dajoki   May-04-09 03:25 PM   #122 
        - Obama has not perfect control nor knowledge  PufPuf23   May-04-09 03:30 PM   #130 
     - Then I feel bad for you...  dajoki   May-04-09 02:49 PM   #83 
     - I live on a fixed income. My husband's Teamster pension  quiller4   May-04-09 03:16 PM   #112 
        - That is why SS should never be privatized. n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 03:26 PM   #124 
  - Maybe Obama's memory will snap back  Bluenorthwest   May-04-09 02:14 PM   #43 
  - Stop blaming Obama and look at the real issue here which is that we need to fix our CPI.  ContinentalOp   May-04-09 02:21 PM   #54 
  - I voted and I can blame whoever I damn well please!! n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 02:24 PM   #57 
  - Sure... you can choose to base your opinion on emotion instead of fact if you want...  scheming daemons   May-04-09 02:36 PM   #69 
  - Yes, that's right, and it doesn't make you correct either n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 02:44 PM   #77 
  - All I'm saying is if you're going to write your representatives,  ContinentalOp   May-04-09 02:43 PM   #76 
     - Yes, I agree with that n/t  dajoki   May-04-09 02:45 PM   #79 
  - Let Obama fix it. He's the Unitary Executive  leftstreet   May-04-09 02:24 PM   #58 
  - Its kinda special, ain't it?  Stinky The Clown   May-04-09 02:43 PM   #75 
  - K&R nt  gulfcoastliberal   May-04-09 02:54 PM   #87 
  - How in the hell would we bail out wall street, save the CEO's  Hubert Flottz   May-04-09 02:55 PM   #88 
  - It's as easy as brushing away mosquitoes.  billyoc   May-04-09 03:06 PM   #99 
  - Only an idiot would blame Obama for this  SpartanDem   May-04-09 03:10 PM   #102 
  - +1  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:12 PM   #107 
  - self delete  dajoki   May-04-09 03:28 PM   #126 
  - Trying to blame Obama or Congress for an age old formula that says no increase in 2010....  Political Heretic   May-04-09 03:19 PM   #114 
  - Don't you get it? Obama time-travelled back in time and passed the legislation  scheming daemons   May-04-09 03:21 PM   #116 
  - You don't get it. Blaming him FOR it and blaming him for  Fire1   May-04-09 03:59 PM   #136 
     - Exactly, but some people...  dajoki   May-04-09 05:39 PM   #138 
        - Got it.  Fire1   May-04-09 05:48 PM   #140 
        - This has been in the news for day or two?  SpartanDem   May-04-09 06:00 PM   #143 
           - Got a link by any chance? I was out of town for Derby  Fire1   May-04-09 06:29 PM   #145 
           - And its also...  dajoki   May-05-09 10:15 AM   #173 
  - We are in a period of deflation .... that why  TWiley   May-04-09 03:29 PM   #128 
  - I agree with that. n/t  Thickasabrick   May-04-09 08:17 PM   #150 
  - do you want a president or dictator?  ecstatic   May-05-09 11:47 AM   #176 
  - wow  blindpig   May-05-09 01:58 PM   #180 
     - The New Democrats are just old Republicans - bootstraps for all!!!  Dragonfli   May-05-09 05:34 PM   #183 
     - Indeed. Then they wonder why some poor people are turned off to voting!  bobbolink   May-05-09 09:21 PM   #185 
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC