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7. The presumption that only a member of a demographic minority can fairly adjudicate issues ...
... impacting that minority is buying in to the "identity politics" of conservatism. It's NOT a liberal (or progressive) viewpoint at all. Implicit in such a posture is the notion that "identity politics" is somehow valid and worth embracing. It's NOT. Do liberals and progressives REALLY want to send the message that whites should "vote white" and straights should "vote straight" and males should "vote male"????? That's EXACTLY the message being sent when it's presumed that ONLY a black can represent a "black perspective" or ONLY a gay can represent a "gay perspective" or ONLY a female can represent a "female perspective." Indeed, the more such messages are sent then the more such messengers are implicitly validating the conservative posture of "special rights" and "narrow interests" ... instead of human rights and human interests.

I'm a liberal. I'm an independent liberal. I support equal rights for women, even as a male, because I'm a liberal. I support equal rights for gays, even as a straight, because I'm a liberal. I support equal rights for all human beings because I'm a liberal. Period. There's NOTHING inherently 'liberal' about women supporting equal rights for women, gays supporting equal rights for gays, or blacks supporting equal rights for blacks. That's just self-serving "identity politics."

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  So much whining about diversity in the USSC!! (Wittes editorial in WaPo, talkings heads on teevee) Sparkly  May-03-09 12:26 PM   #0 
   In fact, women are SO diverse, they're not a voting bloc. Nearly half voted for GWB in '04. nt  Captain Hilts   May-03-09 12:32 PM   #1 
   Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-09 12:33 PM   #2 
   Wow.  Sparkly   May-03-09 12:42 PM   #5 
      Yeah, diversity suddenly becomes highly controversial around here  QC   May-03-09 12:46 PM   #6 
   I'd rather have 9 liberal white men than Clarence Thomas  FLAprogressive   May-03-09 12:36 PM   #3 
   False dichotomy. nt  Sparkly   May-03-09 12:38 PM   #4 
   The presumption that only a member of a demographic minority can fairly adjudicate issues ...  TahitiNut   May-03-09 12:50 PM   #7 
   I am not making that presumption.  Sparkly   May-03-09 12:54 PM   #8 
   Well, if there were no discrimination...  Deep13   May-03-09 12:59 PM   #9 
   Yes, it's a RESULT. Forcing the appearance of a "result" is what creates Potemkin Villages.  TahitiNut   May-03-09 01:03 PM   #10 
      Why assuming it's "forcing the appearance?"  Sparkly   May-03-09 01:09 PM   #11 
         It's called "politics" and nobody (here) is assuming a fucking thing.  TahitiNut   May-03-09 01:17 PM   #12 
         Who said that?  Sparkly   May-03-09 01:41 PM   #19 
            When a self-identified member of a demographic proposes another member of that same demographic ...  TahitiNut   May-03-09 01:59 PM   #21 
               Do you agree with what Benjamin Wittes wrote?  Sparkly   May-03-09 02:07 PM   #22 
                  No, I DON'T talk about qualifications as though there's a single yardstick.  TahitiNut   May-03-09 02:33 PM   #23 
                     You've argued about qualifications in your replies  Sparkly   May-03-09 05:42 PM   #24 
         Because that is what people are proposing in this case  The Straight Story   May-03-09 01:28 PM   #14 
            Not necessarily.  Sparkly   May-03-09 01:38 PM   #17 
   Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-09 01:21 PM   #13 
   You mean like Obama?  The Straight Story   May-03-09 01:30 PM   #15 
   Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-09 01:36 PM   #16 
      Maybe you have a better answer to why there still exist quarterbacks...  BlooInBloo   May-03-09 01:41 PM   #18 
   you must put on your shit-waders to get thru the mourning joe show  spanone   May-03-09 01:44 PM   #20 
      And some DU threads, it seems.  Sparkly   May-03-09 07:42 PM   #25 
 

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