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Thu Apr-30-09 02:39 AM
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| 43. k*r We need to keep making this point. Thank you |
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On a larger scale, many who knew better, voted for the Iraq War Resolution.
You make the point well.
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| -For those defending the 17 Dems who voted against the Matthew Shepard Act |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-29-09 09:22 PM |
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And they (the Dems) should vote for civil rights anyway. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Apr-29-09 09:23 PM |
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Exactly. |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-29-09 09:23 PM |
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Only excuse is bigotry. Period. n/t |
Ian David |
Apr-29-09 09:23 PM |
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there are people actually defending these dems? |
Mari333 |
Apr-29-09 09:25 PM |
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Oh yes, they're making fun of "party purity" and the like. Apparently the party should not take a |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-29-09 09:27 PM |
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sweet jesus on a pogo stick |
Mari333 |
Apr-29-09 09:32 PM |
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Reprehensible. |
glitch |
Apr-29-09 10:05 PM |
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There are people who think the only point is to win elections |
dflprincess |
Apr-29-09 09:40 PM |
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sounds more like a cult nt |
Mari333 |
Apr-29-09 09:52 PM |
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It's the high school football syndrome. |
Jakes Progress |
Apr-30-09 04:27 PM |
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"Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything." n/t |
Greyhound |
Apr-29-09 10:22 PM |
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Any one of them say (out loud), |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Apr-29-09 09:27 PM |
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The only defense I will give Shuler is that he was honest |
dsc |
Apr-29-09 09:28 PM |
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he's a dim bulb who is not worth a penny of any Democratic money. |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-29-09 09:29 PM |
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trust me he didn't get a red cent out of me |
dsc |
Apr-29-09 09:31 PM |
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Poor Heath must have been sacked one too many times...... |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-29-09 09:32 PM |
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You could have stopped after worthless. |
MadBadger |
Apr-29-09 11:28 PM |
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Had to check and make sure my Critter wasn't one of them. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-29-09 09:30 PM |
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Mine voted Yay! |
Cha |
Apr-29-09 10:00 PM |
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Why is violence that is motivated by bigotry any worse than violence motivated |
Somawas |
Apr-29-09 09:38 PM |
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Think of it like the difference between first-degree murder and manslaughter. |
nomorenomore08 |
Apr-29-09 09:48 PM |
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Well said. nt |
glitch |
Apr-29-09 10:04 PM |
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I wish I could recommend your post. |
merh |
Apr-29-09 11:43 PM |
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Sure, go ahead! |
nomorenomore08 |
Apr-29-09 11:54 PM |
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I wish I could recommend your post. Thank you. n.t |
myrna minx |
Apr-30-09 01:05 PM |
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murder is murder and manslaughter is manslaughter |
Lance_Boyle |
Apr-30-09 04:19 PM |
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Hate crimes are a form of terrorism. (nt) |
noamnety |
Apr-29-09 09:50 PM |
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intimidation |
Two Americas |
Apr-29-09 09:52 PM |
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Thank you. Of all the explanations I've heard given, that is the most convincing. |
Somawas |
Apr-29-09 10:33 PM |
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we protect children |
Two Americas |
Apr-29-09 10:43 PM |
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We have always had sentencing ranges, judicial/jury discretion, and parole boards to deal with that. |
FudaFuda |
Apr-30-09 02:19 PM |
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not true |
Two Americas |
Apr-30-09 04:54 PM |
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Don't worry, I agree with YOU. I don't get the logic behind hate crimes either. |
FudaFuda |
Apr-30-09 02:17 PM |
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A hate crime is when someone is targeted |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Apr-29-09 09:57 PM |
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Because the violent act terrorizes an entire minority community. nt |
Bluebear |
Apr-29-09 10:17 PM |
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yes |
Two Americas |
Apr-30-09 04:50 PM |
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Here's a useful way to think about that. |
QC |
Apr-29-09 10:33 PM |
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I think the two examples should be treated the same. nt |
ZombieHorde |
May-02-09 03:36 AM |
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Now ask why violence motivated by bigotry toward women is not considered Hate Crime? |
omega minimo |
Apr-30-09 02:59 AM |
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because women already have their own law with enhansed penalties |
dsc |
Apr-30-09 04:52 AM |
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That's a rationalization, not an answer. Rape is a Hate Crime. |
omega minimo |
Apr-30-09 03:41 PM |
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The violence against women act does exactly what the hate crimes law is designed to do |
dsc |
Apr-30-09 04:22 PM |
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Names matter. |
omega minimo |
Apr-30-09 05:06 PM |
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I can avoid making enemies personally . . . |
donco6 |
Apr-30-09 05:37 AM |
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Why is premeditated murder any worse than manslaughter? |
Zynx |
Apr-30-09 09:34 AM |
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I'm personally on the fence a little about hate legislation |
Djinn |
May-02-09 03:05 AM |
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Because when you target a person because of race, religion, etc. |
Zodiak |
May-02-09 05:03 AM |
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My congressman voted no (Gene Taylor). |
LuvNewcastle |
Apr-29-09 09:46 PM |
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Artur Davis? Why? I don't get it. |
Fridays Child |
Apr-29-09 09:54 PM |
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He has always been right wing. |
QC |
Apr-29-09 10:30 PM |
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I know little about him but his questioning of Monica Goodling... |
Fridays Child |
Apr-30-09 12:08 AM |
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He's about to run for governor... |
misanthrope |
Apr-30-09 04:22 AM |
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Name removed |
Apr-29-09 10:05 PM |
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17 Democrats FAILED! |
elshiva |
Apr-29-09 10:15 PM |
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I hate to think there is any district in the country so hateful that a yes vote here |
Toucano |
Apr-29-09 10:36 PM |
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Even my DINO congresman voted for it, and there is no district more conservative |
QC |
Apr-29-09 10:40 PM |
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you won't find me defending them |
merh |
Apr-29-09 11:41 PM |
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Here is a list of no votes and those who did not vote who were Democrats. |
madfloridian |
Apr-29-09 11:46 PM |
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Mostly Southern Dems....plus MN, PA, and IN |
madfloridian |
Apr-30-09 12:09 AM |
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yep. how can they vote against a general hate crimes bill - it doesn't give GLBTers marriage rights |
Divine Discontent |
Apr-30-09 12:47 AM |
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Because their hatred of us has little to do with marriage. They want us extinguished |
readmoreoften |
Apr-30-09 02:48 AM |
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oh, that's right! I forgot. Yeah, I was reading some comments on youtube |
Divine Discontent |
Apr-30-09 01:02 PM |
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Well Pete Stark and George Miller are very good....they just didn't vote. |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-30-09 05:37 AM |
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k*r We need to keep making this point. Thank you |
autorank |
Apr-30-09 02:39 AM |
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good thing we have Specter in the Senate now, |
leftofthedial |
Apr-30-09 02:49 AM |
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Is my face red.... |
badgerpup |
Apr-30-09 09:26 AM |
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there actually are people here defending it? what morans... |
dionysus |
Apr-30-09 09:30 AM |
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Wow. Greg Walden voted for it.... |
Blue Belle |
Apr-30-09 09:33 AM |
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Poor Greg. He's an endangered specie |
Vanje |
Apr-30-09 09:58 AM |
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No excuses and no defense. |
northofdenali |
Apr-30-09 01:02 PM |
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Even asshat Jim Marshall voted for it and he's the total SOB - the only Dem in the country - |
RubyDuby in GA |
Apr-30-09 01:55 PM |
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Hell, even my Blue Dog critter voted for it. nt |
Bobbie Jo |
Apr-30-09 04:56 PM |
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Have any of them made a statement on their vote? |
TheBigotBasher |
Apr-30-09 05:11 PM |
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Because -- they have a D after their name. That is good enough for some here. |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-30-09 05:15 PM |
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I'm a bit torn on your "no excuse" angle; are they REPRESENTATIVES or leaders? |
Atman |
Apr-30-09 05:29 PM |
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Coffman, Cassidy, and Walden represent very conservative districts. |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-30-09 08:04 PM |
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