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MikeH

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Tue Apr-28-09 02:10 AM
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61. So you think a person's religious beliefs are off limits to criticism?

Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 02:39 AM by MikeH

Of course Mel Gibson, or anybody else, is certainly legally entitled to his religion and his beliefs, but that does not mean that Mel Gibson is not a bigot, or that he is not a narrow-minded, intolerant asshole, for holding the particular beliefs that he holds, and especially for not challenging, questioning, or reevaluating his beliefs.

The psychological mindset which leads Mel Gibson to believe what he believes without questioning is the same psychological mindset which leads others to unquestioningly follow orders to torture, or to carry out the "final solution".

There are consequences to a person's believing what he or she believes. As Voltaire is reported to have said, “As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities”.

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Mel Gibson said his wife can't go to heaven? Unbelievable.	madfloridian	Apr-27-09 12:10 AM	#0
And, being and adulterer, neither will he.	baldguy	Apr-27-09 12:12 AM	#1
Heaven must be an awfully lonely place ... nobody ever goes there.	TahitiNut	Apr-27-09 12:17 AM	#4
No doubt dude	XOKCowboy	Apr-27-09 12:29 AM	#9
Haha!	babylonsister	Apr-27-09 07:51 PM	#52
Oh, no, God forgives adultery. But pray in the wrong church and it's WHAMMO Hell time for you!	Bucky	Apr-27-09 06:06 PM	#40
He'll go to heaven?	CaliforniaPeggy	Apr-27-09 12:15 AM	#2
Mel's probably not so sure he'll make it either	Sebastian Doyle	Apr-27-09 03:05 AM	#18
but a mysogynist, racist, anti-semitic womanizer gets in?	Liberal_in_LA	Apr-27-09 12:16 AM	#3
Hmm... half a billion dollars, or a pre-nup promise of eternal heaven?	chollybocker	Apr-27-09 12:18 AM	#5
He must have flunked catechism class -- that's not correct	dalaigh lllama	Apr-27-09 12:22 AM	#6
Meet you there!	snake in the grass	Apr-27-09 12:53 AM	#13
I'll bring the earplugs.	aquart	Apr-27-09 02:52 AM	#15
When Hendrix starts his daily concert...	snake in the grass	Apr-27-09 03:07 AM	#19
Well, Hendrix.	aquart	Apr-27-09 03:43 AM	#20
actually, that's not quite true, either	northzax	Apr-27-09 06:03 PM	#39
Well, I knew it was a bit more detailed	dalaigh lllama	Apr-27-09 08:02 PM	#53
of course, Mel doesn't accept Vatican II as doctrine	northzax	Apr-27-09 08:25 PM	#55
well then here's Mad Max's current pope	dana_b	Apr-28-09 10:03 PM	#74
You sound like a pretty interesting person, so I'm reserving the smoking heap next to you.	gkhouston	Apr-30-09 01:34 PM	#91
Since he's no longer part of the Roman Catholic Church, then neither will he.	pnwmom	Apr-27-09 12:24 AM	#7
They twist things to fit their "life" model	hyphenate	Apr-27-09 12:26 AM	#8
With all the real issues in the world, it's amazing people still worry about	stopbush	Apr-27-09 12:29 AM	#10
Like most fundies, he suffered a dislocated conscience early in life. nt	greyl	Apr-27-09 12:32 AM	#11
"they separated in August 2006 shortly after Gibson was arrested for drunk driving"	Vickers	Apr-27-09 12:35 AM	#12
I believe the Bible says something about judging others...	spin	Apr-27-09 01:07 AM	#14
I'm Jewish! I can judge him!	aquart	Apr-27-09 02:54 AM	#16
Where can I apply to be Jewish? I'm a flunked-out Christian (at age 5). :)	puebloknot	Apr-27-09 05:14 PM	#36
There is "judging" which is absolutely wrong . . .	defendandprotect	Apr-28-09 09:49 PM	#73
Even if his wife only gets half a billion of his money	DFW	Apr-27-09 02:58 AM	#17
Geezus a half billion!	Egnever	Apr-27-09 03:58 AM	#21
Mel actually took it back later in an interview	MajorChode	Apr-27-09 04:10 AM	#22
Heh heh, glad to hear he took it back...even if after bad press.	madfloridian	Apr-27-09 12:32 PM	#25
IMO the difference between the 2 toddlers who snack-trashed a neighbor's	saltpoint	Apr-27-09 04:13 AM	#23
ahh ........ God's Love again.	TWiley	Apr-27-09 05:38 AM	#24
Nothing Unbelievable About It.	OPERATIONMINDCRIME	Apr-27-09 12:37 PM	#26
So you think a person's religious beliefs are off limits to criticism?	MikeH	Apr-28-09 02:10 AM	#61
Bravo . . . !!!	defendandprotect	Apr-28-09 10:31 PM	#75
LOLOL	Skittles	Apr-29-09 04:44 AM	#84
Godtarded piece of shit.....n/t	msanthrope	Apr-27-09 12:39 PM	#27
oh, dear	flakey_foont	Apr-27-09 03:57 PM	#28
neither will jew haters.	DesertFlower	Apr-27-09 04:03 PM	#29
I don't think I would want to go to the type of "heaven" that Mel believes in.	tjwash	Apr-27-09 04:05 PM	#30
Heck, if Mel's there, that's enough reason to want to stay away.	Bette Noir	Apr-27-09 04:30 PM	#32
How can anyone believe anything religious is beyond me	madokie	Apr-27-09 04:06 PM	#31
Mel is lucky he made all that money before everyone figured out	Flying Dream Blues	Apr-27-09 04:36 PM	#33
Sorry, Mel, the guy in charge of Heaven's guest list is named Moyshe Zuckerman.	Warren DeMontague	Apr-27-09 04:39 PM	#34
Believable!!!!!	puebloknot	Apr-27-09 05:12 PM	#35
Dickus Maximus n/t	road2000	Apr-27-09 05:18 PM	#37
If he's more Catholic than the Pope, he'd never have considered marrying an Episcopalian nt	WolverineDG	Apr-27-09 05:52 PM	#38
Gibson calls himself "Catholic" but his "church" is a private chapel	struggle4progress	Apr-27-09 08:25 PM	#56
Another "good catholic" - him, Newt, Pat Buchanan nt	old mark	Apr-27-09 06:08 PM	#41
Maybe she got Purgatorio when they halved their assets	Bucky	Apr-27-09 06:16 PM	#42
Well, she won't have to deal with him in the afterlife, so that's a win.	burning rain	Apr-27-09 06:18 PM	#43
If he's going to be there I'd say she's probably quite relieved about it.	shadowknows69	Apr-27-09 06:19 PM	#44
Mel Gibson has been charged with the "Book of Life"...	rasputin1952	Apr-27-09 06:30 PM	#45
He said in a mag interview once	frogmarch	Apr-27-09 06:33 PM	#46
I've always hated him....	smirkymonkey	Apr-30-09 01:32 PM	#89
it ain't even there	Aragorn	Apr-27-09 07:24 PM	#47
I hope robyn moore enjoys her half a billion	noiretextatique	Apr-27-09 07:40 PM	#48
She should be sainted for survivng 28 years with that asshole.	rucky	Apr-27-09 07:41 PM	#49
Good - I can hang out with your wife in the after-life and she can tell me what a dickwad you are -	jillan	Apr-27-09 07:42 PM	#50
Imagine Mel in Hell	RufusTFirefly	Apr-27-09 07:46 PM	#51
Clue: nobody else is either. nt.	endarkenment	Apr-27-09 08:04 PM	#54
she'll probably go back to her native Australia with $500M which	Swagman	Apr-27-09 09:11 PM	#57
$500,000,000.00!!! Wow. I'd laugh in front of him & tell her, Take it from him, 'Sugar Tits!'	Divine Discontent	Apr-27-09 09:57 PM	#58
More proof that some people will marry anything as long as it's rich and famous.	jazzjunkysue	Apr-27-09 10:43 PM	#59
28 years ago he wasn't	verges	Apr-28-09 02:20 PM	#68
News?	Aethertek	Apr-27-09 11:22 PM	#60
Welcome to DU!	Laelth	Apr-28-09 10:50 AM	#62
Thanks	Aethertek	Apr-28-09 12:33 PM	#63
Has anyone asked his wife about her opinion about his ultimate destination?	Stevepol	Apr-28-09 01:47 PM	#64
She stayed with him for close to 30 years. Her life philosophy must be similar to his.	dustbunnie	Apr-28-09 01:56 PM	#65
If she stayed with him for close to 30 years, hasn't she already been to Hell? n/t	gkhouston	Apr-30-09 01:35 PM	#92
She went willingly though, of her own volition. She loved this man for all his "foibles.".	dustbunnie	Apr-30-09 01:42 PM	#94
She probably thought foibles were a foreign currency.	gkhouston	Apr-30-09 01:53 PM	#95
Hah-haha!! Maybe -	dustbunnie	Apr-30-09 02:06 PM	#96
So Mel got "soul" custody of God in the divorce	Stevenmarc	Apr-28-09 02:01 PM	#66
Hehehe! Good one! n/t	dustbunnie	Apr-28-09 02:03 PM	#67
Mel is in for one big surprise	grantcart	Apr-28-09 04:26 PM	#69
No, he's not. He won't exist so he can't know he's wrong**nm	misanthrope	Apr-29-09 01:53 AM	#82
Mel is absolutely right on this one.	dysfunctional press	Apr-28-09 04:42 PM	#70
AMEN (pun intended)	Locrian	Apr-28-09 05:56 PM	#71
Agree...and even sadder, if there was a "heaven" it would have been on this beautiful earth . ..	defendandprotect	Apr-28-09 11:12 PM	#76
and another thing- based on biblical and/or fundy descriptions of hell...	dysfunctional press	Apr-28-09 11:48 PM	#77
And perhaps all that "oil" was the earth's ballast . . . ????	defendandprotect	Apr-28-09 11:58 PM	#79
there's not nearly enough of the stuff to make any kind of global difference.	dysfunctional press	Apr-29-09 01:00 AM	#80
Haha, love that post.	joshcryer	Apr-28-09 11:53 PM	#78
when God writes something down He's not fucking around	Algorem	Apr-28-09 07:27 PM	#72
Guess what, Mel? Nobody goes to heaven and you're still an ass**nm	misanthrope	Apr-29-09 01:51 AM	#81
The purpose of Nichiren Buddhism is world peace and happiness for all, not just Buddhists...	DesertDiamond	Apr-29-09 03:33 AM	#83
hey!!! I was just thinking how Buddhist philosophy teaches we create our lives here and now	BlancheSplanchnik	Apr-29-09 09:10 AM	#85
years of celebrity warp the brain	spanone	Apr-29-09 09:12 AM	#86
re: why are the religious and neo-cons most corrupt?	feslen	Apr-30-09 09:31 AM	#87
pardon my ignorance, but can catholics get divorced?	dghll	Apr-30-09 12:01 PM	#88
I think if you want to get re-married in the Church, you have to get an annulment,	gkhouston	Apr-30-09 01:37 PM	#93
Yes, they can go through the civil procedure.	AngryOldDem	Apr-30-09 02:19 PM	#97
Yeah but she DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....	Postman	Apr-30-09 01:34 PM	#90

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