Taxloss
(1000+ posts)
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Sun Apr-01-07 02:20 PM
Response to Original message |
| 3. People like scapegoats. |
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Of course SUVs are lousy for the environment - the vast majority of petroleum vehicles are. But SUVs make a handy scapegoat that allows people to feel concerned about the environment without looking at their own lifestyles.
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Why are SUV's the enemy? |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:16 PM |
#0 |

"1996 Explorer, 21mpg " - That's a load of rich creamery butter. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 02:18 PM |
#1 |
 
What does yours get? |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:22 PM |
#5 |

I don't have one - which isn't actually relevant. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 02:48 PM |
#29 |

Consumer Reports says 17mpg - which is more along the lines of what I woulda thought.,.. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 02:54 PM |
#32 |

Sorry, I took it like you knew b/c yours was worse |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:54 PM |
#33 |

Nope - It's possible to know without actually owning one. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 03:14 PM |
#37 |

No it's not. How do you know what the owner has done to the vehicle? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-01-07 03:28 PM |
#41 |

You win the award for Most Specious Counterexample of 2007. Congratulations! |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 03:54 PM |
#50 |
 
I really didn't expect an intelligent answer from you. I'm glad I keep |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-01-07 04:18 PM |
#53 |

IGNORE is your friend, Ghost |
Skittles |
Apr-01-07 08:28 PM |
#63 |

I'm sorry but you're mistaken.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-01-07 05:32 PM |
#58 |

I see your point |
marlakay |
Apr-01-07 02:20 PM |
#2 |

People like scapegoats. |
Taxloss |
Apr-01-07 02:20 PM |
#3 |

What's your point? |
purduejake |
Apr-01-07 02:21 PM |
#4 |
 
I think he's making the OPPOSITE point |
Lirwin2 |
Apr-01-07 04:22 PM |
#54 |
 
My point |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-02-07 11:40 AM |
#65 |

My 2005 Mustang gets 28 mpg |
Clark2008 |
Apr-01-07 02:24 PM |
#6 |
 
My Hyundai Elantra gets 26 MPG. |
purduejake |
Apr-01-07 02:27 PM |
#10 |

It's probably the way you drive and not the car. |
Clark2008 |
Apr-01-07 03:07 PM |
#35 |

It depends where you are driving if A/C or windows down is more efficient |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-01-07 05:40 PM |
#60 |

Sorry, but that's not necessarily true |
Tesha |
Apr-02-07 06:57 PM |
#79 |

Only 2 of the people you polled own that's more than 7 years old? |
rocknation |
Apr-01-07 02:25 PM |
#7 |
 
Something in the question didn't translate. |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:27 PM |
#9 |

I meant, only two of the people you polled own a CAR that's LESS than 7 years old? |
rocknation |
Apr-01-07 08:16 PM |
#62 |

Well it's Georgia. |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-02-07 11:44 AM |
#66 |

Despite your little poll, the reason that most people hate SUVs |
MadHound |
Apr-01-07 02:25 PM |
#8 |
 
They're also unsafe for other drivers. |
purduejake |
Apr-01-07 02:31 PM |
#12 |
  
We should start taxing the hell out of SUVs and demand higher insurance coverage. |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-01-07 03:36 PM |
#43 |
 
What do you suggest |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:34 PM |
#13 |
  
If you often haul lots of people and cargo.... |
purduejake |
Apr-01-07 02:37 PM |
#16 |
  
It is amazing what you can do with a minivan |
MadHound |
Apr-01-07 02:48 PM |
#30 |
   
A question. |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 03:18 PM |
#38 |
  
You might be able to find a minivan that comes with a tranny that is suitable for towing |
MadHound |
Apr-01-07 03:23 PM |
#40 |
  
Might want to take a gander at the Nissan Quest van |
NoGOPZone |
Apr-02-07 06:31 PM |
#78 |
 
ding ding ding we have a winner!! |
omega minimo |
Apr-01-07 09:10 PM |
#64 |

And my 1994 Toyota Tercel gets 35mpg in the city |
Der Blaue Engel |
Apr-01-07 02:28 PM |
#11 |

Danny, retired - 1997 Escort - 12mpg |
Jim Warren |
Apr-01-07 02:34 PM |
#14 |
 
His car IS a special case |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:37 PM |
#15 |

At least a couple of these look pretty fishy.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-01-07 02:38 PM |
#17 |
 
It's all about driving habits. |
purduejake |
Apr-01-07 02:39 PM |
#19 |
  
I've driven my daughter's Explorer on a number of occasions. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-01-07 03:08 PM |
#36 |
 
Oh good catch sorry about that - I'll fix it. Should be 270 miles a week!! |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-01-07 02:43 PM |
#24 |

I think it demonstrates a scizm between urban and rural |
Gatchaman |
Apr-01-07 02:38 PM |
#18 |
 
People drive SUVs for many different reasons. |
gravity |
Apr-01-07 03:04 PM |
#34 |

Oddly enough, the vehicle "upside down and off the road" is often... |
Tesha |
Apr-02-07 07:12 PM |
#81 |

I don't like them because their big asses get in my way when they are in front of me. |
cat_girl25 |
Apr-01-07 02:40 PM |
#20 |

those numbers do not make any sense to me |
hfojvt |
Apr-01-07 02:41 PM |
#21 |

There is no need for most SUV's out there. It is a commercial success that there are. |
Swede |
Apr-01-07 02:42 PM |
#22 |

I hate SUV's b/c I can't see around the d*mn things |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-01-07 02:43 PM |
#23 |
 
I agree with all your rants. |
cat_girl25 |
Apr-01-07 02:47 PM |
#28 |
 
The excess size and view blockage are my gripes as well. |
mwb970 |
Apr-01-07 03:43 PM |
#47 |

Didn't the chimpster |
azurnoir |
Apr-01-07 02:45 PM |
#25 |
 
Yes he did and the SUV Gas mileage was under reported by Manufacturers |
Breeze54 |
Apr-01-07 02:54 PM |
#31 |
  
The auto companies don't do the sticker testing |
tammywammy |
Apr-02-07 06:22 PM |
#75 |
 
No. Not true. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-01-07 03:19 PM |
#39 |

How many SUV drivers buy carbon credits? |
purduejake |
Apr-01-07 02:45 PM |
#26 |

Because the owners suck at driving for one reason and |
Breeze54 |
Apr-01-07 02:45 PM |
#27 |

Most of the SUVs where I live have the worst drivers. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-01-07 03:30 PM |
#42 |

It's more than just gas mileage |
depakid |
Apr-01-07 03:38 PM |
#44 |

a friend of mine does animal rescue, and SUV is a must for her. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-01-07 03:39 PM |
#45 |

SUVs have gas mileage as good as vans and 1975 Mustangs? |
Eric J in MN |
Apr-01-07 03:42 PM |
#46 |

The single most common driving configuration I see in Columbus |
mwb970 |
Apr-01-07 03:45 PM |
#48 |

Because traffic backs up while they're being winched out of the median strip. |
Lastlaughin08 |
Apr-01-07 03:51 PM |
#49 |

We have a 2001 Nissan Xterra |
Nikia |
Apr-01-07 04:15 PM |
#51 |

Because they get 15 mpg in a world where the oil is running out |
Godlesscommieprevert |
Apr-01-07 04:17 PM |
#52 |

I seriously doubt those MPG numbers for the Escort and the Fusion. |
Roland99 |
Apr-01-07 04:26 PM |
#55 |

The cars are WAY out of tune |
HughMoran |
Apr-01-07 05:09 PM |
#56 |
 
My friend would love it if you COULD! |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-02-07 11:50 AM |
#67 |

Mileage does vary . |
blues90 |
Apr-01-07 05:19 PM |
#57 |

Not everyone driving an SUV drives like shit |
CRF450 |
Apr-01-07 05:38 PM |
#59 |
 
"Not everyone driving an SUV drives like shit" |
cat_girl25 |
Apr-02-07 06:05 PM |
#74 |

it oughta be a crime not to take care of your car |
nosmokes |
Apr-01-07 05:42 PM |
#61 |
 
We have smog inspections every other year in California |
slackmaster |
Apr-02-07 11:52 AM |
#68 |

yeah, the cal smog inspections are a joke. |
nosmokes |
Apr-02-07 04:59 PM |
#69 |

I disagree, it is very easy to fail the California smog check |
slackmaster |
Apr-02-07 05:07 PM |
#71 |

for many drivers, SUVs represent an aesthetic choice that |
maxsolomon |
Apr-02-07 05:05 PM |
#70 |

If American car companies would build more efficient cars, including SUVs |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-02-07 05:10 PM |
#72 |

Ford Escort 12 MPG, Explorer 21 MPG?????????? |
LSK |
Apr-02-07 05:50 PM |
#73 |

It's more about what they symbolize |
Marie26 |
Apr-02-07 06:23 PM |
#76 |

I just hate encountering them in city traffic and parking lots. |
Sparkly |
Apr-02-07 06:25 PM |
#77 |

S is for sport. |
Orsino |
Apr-02-07 07:03 PM |
#80 |