You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #26: Your link says nothing about electric vehicles.. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #12
26. Your link says nothing about electric vehicles..
From your link:

Lithium iron phosphate batteries


4 pcs of 55Ah/3.2V in series

4 180 x 190 x 120mm

7.1 x 7.5 x 4.7inches

8.5kg

19 lbs
$1027

That $1027 for 704 watt hours..

One horsepower = 746 watts, so that batttery pack would put out less than one horsepower worth of electricity for one hour before being completely discharged.

It has an energy/weight ratio of 37 watt hours/lb..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -Questions regarding vehicles that use internal combustion..... Aviation Pro  Apr-01-07 10:48 AM   #0 
  - I don't know, why not not tax something...  originalpckelly   Apr-01-07 10:50 AM   #1 
  - Make the tax enough of a burden to make them sit up and take notice...  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 10:57 AM   #3 
  - Again, why a tax?  originalpckelly   Apr-01-07 11:04 AM   #6 
  - Because the only way to get most folks attention and change behavior...  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:07 AM   #8 
  - The problem is that the people who own SUVs and don't need them...  originalpckelly   Apr-01-07 11:15 AM   #10 
     - I see what you're talking about....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:35 AM   #14 
     - But just about anyone can say they need one - and have valid  Clark2008   Apr-01-07 12:33 PM   #40 
  - How about  ProudDad   Apr-01-07 11:32 PM   #83 
  - Take notice of what?  MGD   Apr-01-07 11:38 AM   #16 
     - Of their dwindling resources.....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:39 AM   #18 
        - I say V-8 hummers for everyone and let's burn every last drop of oil on earth as fast as possible  MGD   Apr-01-07 11:56 AM   #29 
           - "Moving on" to hydrogen...good one  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 01:02 PM   #51 
  - A lot of them got a tax credit for the full amount of their  roody   Apr-01-07 01:19 PM   #60 
  - Too soon - not enough alternatives  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 10:53 AM   #2 
  - The technology for EVs isn't here.... yet.  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 11:06 AM   #7 
     - Not true  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 11:14 AM   #9 
        - Average commute distance....  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 11:20 AM   #11 
        - A far cry short of 200 miles  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 11:30 AM   #12 
        - Your link says nothing about electric vehicles..  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 11:46 AM   #26 
           - Or 550 ft/lbs....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 12:00 PM   #33 
           - Great-now put 24 of these together in a series/parallel pack  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 12:40 PM   #42 
              - That's 22.6 horsepower for one hour.. assuming 100% efficiency in the total system  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 01:04 PM   #52 
              - No such level of efficiency....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 01:07 PM   #54 
              - I read in Popular Mechanics...  krispos42   Apr-01-07 02:37 PM   #63 
              - Lithium iron phosphate is good for 1500-2000 cycles  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 01:10 PM   #55 
                 - From your original link..  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 03:40 PM   #72 
                    - Now don't start cherry picking quotes  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 08:14 PM   #79 
                       - "Test data in the laboratory show up to 2000 charge/discharge cycles."  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 08:33 PM   #80 
                          - You're right, I am suprised  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 09:48 PM   #81 
                             - Nope, they were nicads...  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 11:13 PM   #82 
                                - "electric weedeater on meth"  wtmusic   Apr-02-07 02:07 AM   #85 
                                   - Oh yes, some of the park flyers are way too cool..  Jonathan50   Apr-02-07 05:17 AM   #86 
              - There is also a production capacity problem  krispos42   Apr-01-07 02:32 PM   #62 
        - Time ain't miles  ProudDad   Apr-01-07 11:35 PM   #84 
        - I have my own idea on the subject  krispos42   Apr-01-07 11:50 AM   #28 
        - That's funny, I had a similar idea  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 12:06 PM   #34 
        - So does GM, with the new Chevy Volt  krispos42   Apr-01-07 12:25 PM   #36 
           - The Volt is a concept car which will never see the light of day  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 12:55 PM   #47 
        - That removes one of the most attractive reasons for  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 12:42 PM   #43 
           - And that would hold true for most people  krispos42   Apr-01-07 12:48 PM   #45 
              - But if you're going to spend the money on a generator  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 12:56 PM   #48 
                 - Ah! I see your confusion, and it's my fault! Very sorry.  krispos42   Apr-01-07 02:27 PM   #61 
        - Ninty percent?  Clark2008   Apr-01-07 12:37 PM   #41 
           - Here:  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 12:51 PM   #46 
              - The average commuter drives 32 miles per day.. Just for the commute..  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 04:55 PM   #76 
  - Political suicide.  Frogger   Apr-01-07 11:01 AM   #4 
  - Most of them are for entertainment and amusement....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:03 AM   #5 
     - Excellent!!!  Frogger   Apr-01-07 03:10 PM   #68 
        - My flight of fantasy about what we can do with "additional" time...  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 03:38 PM   #71 
           - Might not get past  Frogger   Apr-01-07 04:17 PM   #73 
  - Makes no sense because a person can't drive more than one vehicle at a time  slackmaster   Apr-01-07 11:34 AM   #13 
  - And yet the purchase of an SUV....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:37 AM   #15 
  - Rather broad brush you are painting with  slackmaster   Apr-01-07 03:02 PM   #67 
  - LOL I just made the same point  krispos42   Apr-01-07 11:42 AM   #21 
  - Why not just Tax for more than one kid... this is silly.  Ioo   Apr-01-07 11:38 AM   # 
  - Silly, or too close to the truth....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:41 AM   #20 
  - Dumbest idea I've heard all day. nt  MGD   Apr-01-07 11:38 AM   #17 
  - Lost your mind, sorry :-)  krispos42   Apr-01-07 11:40 AM   #19 
  - And yet human behavior tells me otherwise....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:43 AM   #23 
  - Well, that goes to the larger question of bad public transit in suburbs  krispos42   Apr-01-07 12:24 PM   #35 
  - Given that a significant amount of the total energy use over a vehicle lifetime..  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 12:31 PM   #38 
     - But the energy is not wasted  krispos42   Apr-01-07 12:45 PM   #44 
  - I am curious "Aviation Pro" whether or not you would include Civil Aviation in this group?  A HERETIC I AM   Apr-01-07 11:42 AM   #22 
  - Or the millions of Americans who engage in nonessential travel  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 11:46 AM   #25 
  - We already are taxed to a great degree....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:56 AM   #30 
     - Then you made my point for me....  A HERETIC I AM   Apr-01-07 12:31 PM   #39 
     - Statisically..  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 01:00 PM   #49 
     - Or if you REALLY want to shit a brick...  jmowreader   Apr-01-07 04:38 PM   #74 
        - I know KTEB all too well....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 08:07 PM   #78 
           - I was wondering about that  jmowreader   Apr-02-07 10:11 AM   #87 
  - Negative or positive reinforcements?  Ezlivin   Apr-01-07 11:46 AM   #24 
  - I get so sick of this crap. Really. I'm more liberal than you, blah blah blah...  Ghost in the Machine   Apr-01-07 11:50 AM   #27 
  - Sorry, Ghost....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 11:58 AM   #31 
     - ummm.. I also have a Ford F-150 Extended Cab that I use for  Ghost in the Machine   Apr-01-07 12:27 PM   #37 
  - You would be punishing too many of the wrong people in the process  MadHound   Apr-01-07 12:00 PM   #32 
  - Well you can just tax gas  gravity   Apr-01-07 01:01 PM   #50 
  - agree  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 01:06 PM   #53 
     - I like the idea of giving everyone gas credits  gravity   Apr-01-07 01:16 PM   #57 
        - that's even better  wtmusic   Apr-01-07 01:18 PM   #58 
  - Put the tax at the gas pump where it should have been  Warren Stupidity   Apr-01-07 01:12 PM   #56 
  - Unfotunately....  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 01:19 PM   #59 
     - Oh nonsense. I read that article.  Warren Stupidity   Apr-01-07 03:23 PM   #69 
  - You mean vehicle registration?  LeftyMom   Apr-01-07 02:39 PM   #64 
  - Yes...  Aviation Pro   Apr-01-07 02:44 PM   #65 
     - People with multiple vehicles already pay more  LeftyMom   Apr-01-07 02:57 PM   #66 
  - People pay gasoline taxes in proportion to the amount of gas they use  RGBolen   Apr-01-07 03:29 PM   #70 
  - Better Yet - Lets Impose Additional Taxes For People With 2+ Children  ThomWV   Apr-01-07 04:42 PM   #75 
  - child != car  Jonathan50   Apr-01-07 05:55 PM   #77 
  - Yep, lost yer mind ...  JustABozoOnThisBus   Apr-02-07 10:16 AM   #88 
  - I own six cars, but can only drive them one at a time.  Throd   Apr-02-07 10:46 AM   #89 
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC