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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:43 PM
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63. I don't know
I think the tariff on pickups is 25% if I'm not mistaken which is pretty large.
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  -Is it just me or are new cars WAYYYYYYYY overpriced? JANdad  Apr-23-09 01:56 PM   #0 
  - Yes, I'm very disappointed with the high prices of both the new Prius and Insights.  ShortnFiery   Apr-23-09 01:58 PM   #1 
  - LOL. Foreign cars are too much for working Americans to afford. Wonder if there's a connection?  Romulox   Apr-23-09 03:49 PM   #33 
     - I'm a working American and I own a Camry which has the same wheel base  Lorien   Apr-23-09 10:43 PM   #103 
  - I was looking, too ... and I was surprised.  BattyDem   Apr-23-09 02:00 PM   #2 
  - I was looking at Malibu as well, but crap... $24,000.00 plus... Don't think so... n/t  LakeSamish706   Apr-23-09 02:01 PM   #3 
  - I know...  JANdad   Apr-23-09 02:04 PM   #6 
  - My Malibu is about 2 months old. It was $19,500 out the door.  Saturday   Apr-23-09 02:41 PM   #25 
  - Subsidize the purchase of a new car? You've got to be fucking kidding  taterguy   Apr-23-09 04:33 PM   #56 
     - well for you we could  JANdad   Apr-24-09 06:14 AM   #113 
        - So when a question can't be answered just resort to a personal attack?  taterguy   Apr-24-09 06:31 AM   #115 
  - The Malibu was the only "car" we looked at when auto shopping last summer  carlyhippy   Apr-24-09 07:16 AM   #124 
  - Get a car that's a couple of years old.  Cary   Apr-23-09 02:01 PM   #4 
  - With the new programs from GM  JANdad   Apr-23-09 02:06 PM   #8 
  - I have 138,000 miles on my 1999 Volvo S70 T5.  Cary   Apr-23-09 02:10 PM   #16 
     - That's how I felt about my 1987 Camry--which is still in great shape  kaygore   Apr-24-09 02:09 AM   #107 
  - The price drops the minute you drive that new car off the lot, basically!  JerseygirlCT   Apr-23-09 07:24 PM   #95 
  - Agree. Anything mid-sized is ridiculous.  n2doc   Apr-23-09 02:03 PM   #5 
  - So buy a lease return.  Codeine   Apr-23-09 02:05 PM   #7 
  - Yes, I just did in January  county worker   Apr-23-09 02:33 PM   #23 
  - they load up a lot more options as standard now...  Blue_Tires   Apr-23-09 02:06 PM   #9 
  - I've never purchased a *new* car. Only cars 1-2 years old.  phantom power   Apr-23-09 02:07 PM   #10 
  - Me too!  Uben   Apr-24-09 04:20 PM   #157 
  - I bought my car when it was 8 months old, 6k miles.  flvegan   Apr-23-09 02:07 PM   #11 
  - We paid 16K (& change) for a $35,000 car..less than 12K miles on it  SoCalDem   Apr-23-09 06:45 PM   #84 
  - Hyundai...incredible amount of car for the money, Consumer Reports top choices  Atman   Apr-23-09 02:07 PM   #12 
  - And fuck union labor in your own country, right?  Codeine   Apr-23-09 02:32 PM   #22 
     - Problem is....  moez   Apr-23-09 03:08 PM   #29 
     - So you're comparing 80's vintage American cars  Codeine   Apr-23-09 03:13 PM   #30 
     - Just basing it on my own experience,  moez   Apr-23-09 03:28 PM   #31 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-23-09 03:51 PM   #35 
        - Hmmmmm..... I've been a member about 4 years longer than you -  moez   Apr-23-09 04:32 PM   #55 
           - American autoworkers are NOT paid "twice as much". That's RW propaganda.  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:34 PM   #58 
           - Your nonsense doesn't hurt my feelings at all -  moez   Apr-23-09 04:36 PM   #60 
              - And your lack of basic fact-checking isn't a shortcoming?  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:43 PM   #62 
              - OK ... It's time to put your money where your mouth is ....  Trajan   Apr-24-09 02:29 AM   #109 
           - Duck-quack  Enthusiast   Apr-24-09 03:56 AM   #111 
              - I don't give a shit who's to blame.  moez   Apr-24-09 10:48 AM   #143 
                 - How about you end your  Enthusiast   Apr-24-09 11:48 AM   #147 
                    - The facts just don't back you up  moez   Apr-24-09 12:04 PM   #150 
                       - Are you intentionally ignoring what I said?  Enthusiast   Apr-24-09 02:32 PM   #153 
     - My POS 2005 Dodge Caravan would disagree,  Xithras   Apr-23-09 03:46 PM   #32 
        - I support outsourcing IT for exactly the same reasons you don't support Labor.  Romulox   Apr-23-09 03:52 PM   #37 
        - You didn't read my post...  Atman   Apr-23-09 03:59 PM   #40 
        - You support Labor with actions. Your words are empty. nt  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:05 PM   #44 
           - Your head is empty. I DO support unions through my actions.  Atman   Apr-23-09 04:10 PM   #48 
              - When you are extolling the virtues of Hyundais on this message board you mean?  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:29 PM   #53 
        - Very different situation.  Xithras   Apr-23-09 03:59 PM   #41 
        - LOLOL. Of course it is! Because it affects you and your state.  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:04 PM   #42 
        - And I Support Outsourcing IT and Buying 12 Year Old Used Cars  NashVegas   Apr-24-09 06:46 AM   #120 
           - I love this. It's a circle of economic darwinism! I support P2P because creative types  Romulox   Apr-24-09 07:42 AM   #126 
              - You Think So?  NashVegas   Apr-24-09 04:12 PM   #155 
        - And many owners of  Enthusiast   Apr-24-09 11:51 AM   #148 
     - You are completely wrong!  Enthusiast   Apr-24-09 03:52 AM   #110 
     - Really?  Le Taz Hot   Apr-24-09 08:30 AM   #135 
     - Not at all. I do a lot of work promoting unions  Atman   Apr-23-09 03:50 PM   #34 
     - LOL. Some of my BEST friends are union members!  Romulox   Apr-23-09 03:53 PM   #38 
        - That's not at all what I said.  Atman   Apr-23-09 04:09 PM   #47 
           - Non-union printers are cheaper. Why should I support YOUR labor if you don't support MINE?  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:30 PM   #54 
           - Keep swingin' for the fences! You're striking out every time.  Atman   Apr-23-09 04:37 PM   #61 
              - It defies imagination that you keep on trying to bolster your union cred  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:48 PM   #65 
                 - No imagination needed. Just a modicum of honesty and intelligence.  Atman   Apr-23-09 05:47 PM   #72 
                    - I don't think you get it: I don't care any more about you and yours than you care me  Romulox   Apr-24-09 06:38 AM   #118 
                       - BTW, Hyundai's are UNION BUILT.  Atman   Apr-24-09 10:14 AM   #139 
                          - Not in Alabammy they ain't. nt  Romulox   Apr-24-09 10:27 AM   #141 
           - Why do you feel compelled to defend yourself against a shill for management.  Telly Savalas   Apr-23-09 09:07 PM   #99 
              - Good point.  Atman   Apr-23-09 09:22 PM   #100 
              - You kidding me? This guy was looking for the attention.  Romulox   Apr-24-09 06:37 AM   #117 
                 - We don't need to demonize you  Atman   Apr-24-09 07:37 AM   #125 
                    - Wow, romulux has created quite the stir on this thread  carlyhippy   Apr-24-09 07:44 AM   #127 
     - You DO know that the Sante Fe is built in Alabama don't you?  Rosco T.   Apr-23-09 06:29 PM   #73 
     - Well, I knew it, but Mr. High-N-Mighty I'm sure doesn't care.  Atman   Apr-23-09 06:32 PM   #74 
     - I don't support Southern state union busting.  Codeine   Apr-23-09 06:35 PM   #77 
        - Oh, I know that all too well!  Atman   Apr-23-09 06:49 PM   #85 
     - By non-union labor.  Codeine   Apr-23-09 06:33 PM   #76 
        - Key words..."Whenever possible."  Atman   Apr-23-09 06:38 PM   #78 
     - They are union built though...  JCMach1   Apr-24-09 08:05 AM   #131 
        - By what union?  Codeine   Apr-24-09 04:18 PM   #156 
        - Here is one example  JCMach1   Apr-25-09 01:50 AM   #159 
  - BUYING USED DOES NOT HELP THE AUTO INDUSTRY!  JANdad   Apr-23-09 02:08 PM   #13 
  - Actually it DOES.  Xithras   Apr-23-09 03:51 PM   #36 
     - Most manufacturers have buyback agreements with rental car companies.  kcass1954   Apr-23-09 07:03 PM   #94 
     - Well, it depends  tammywammy   Apr-24-09 07:05 AM   #122 
  - Easy Credit Fall Out...  KharmaTrain   Apr-23-09 02:09 PM   #14 
  - Did they pass the $5K credit for getting older cars off the road?  sinkingfeeling   Apr-23-09 02:10 PM   #15 
  - Check out the property taxes and insurance you'll be paying before buying new.  FudaFuda   Apr-23-09 02:11 PM   #17 
  - Ahhh... no.  Rosco T.   Apr-23-09 06:41 PM   #81 
     - Fair enough, but ...  FudaFuda   Apr-23-09 06:52 PM   #87 
        - "Figure out how much that 3% loan is costing you over the life of the loan"  Rosco T.   Apr-24-09 01:02 AM   #104 
  - We can't even find a Ford van to buy for our boarding kennel.  Jane Austin   Apr-23-09 02:11 PM   #18 
  - I have never purchased new.  liberal N proud   Apr-23-09 02:28 PM   #19 
  - What kind of profit have car companies made recently?  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-23-09 02:31 PM   #20 
  - Wow, that's a pretty dumb conclusion.  tabasco   Apr-23-09 06:41 PM   #82 
  - So you think there's a much larger market for cars than currently exists  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-23-09 07:01 PM   #91 
  - I don't think the definition of "overpriced" the OP used has anything to do with profit margins.  greyl   Apr-24-09 01:13 AM   #105 
     - True - meaning "new cars don't seem worth the effort needed to make them, to me"  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-24-09 11:38 AM   #145 
  - Find a dealer that sells rental fleet cars that have low mileage  county worker   Apr-23-09 02:31 PM   #21 
  - It's Not Just You  RobinA   Apr-23-09 02:39 PM   #24 
  - 2010 Mazda3 is a completely new design  high density   Apr-23-09 02:52 PM   #28 
  - The Malibu definitely is. That's a $17k car IMO.  high density   Apr-23-09 02:47 PM   #26 
  - Detroit lost a customer because of the Malibu.  Atman   Apr-23-09 04:16 PM   #52 
  - Well, imports are subject to huge tariffs by the US government.  960   Apr-23-09 02:50 PM   #27 
  - No they're not. Link? nt  Romulox   Apr-23-09 03:53 PM   #39 
  - Depends on what you call huge  AZ Criminal JD   Apr-23-09 04:09 PM   #46 
     - 2.5% is not huge. What is the tariff on a US car imported into Japan or Korea?  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:33 PM   #57 
        - I don't know  AZ Criminal JD   Apr-23-09 04:43 PM   #63 
           - Of course you don't. And you're not interested in finding out, either.  Romulox   Apr-23-09 04:49 PM   #66 
              - You apparently are interested in finding out either.  AZ Criminal JD   Apr-23-09 05:01 PM   #68 
                 - I'm interested in pointing out hit-and-run anti-Labor posters.  Romulox   Apr-24-09 06:42 AM   #119 
                    - At least I have facts, something that alludes you.  AZ Criminal JD   Apr-24-09 10:07 AM   #137 
                       - The word is "elude". Malapropisms are fairly common in your posts, however.  Romulox   Apr-24-09 10:17 AM   #140 
                          - Where have I pretended?  AZ Criminal JD   Apr-24-09 11:51 AM   #149 
  - Since when?  Codeine   Apr-23-09 04:11 PM   #49 
  - No, not nearly enough actually.  spoony   Apr-23-09 06:55 PM   #89 
  - Really?  DainBramaged   Apr-24-09 02:13 AM   #108 
     - See post #46 but you have never been one for the truth  AZ Criminal JD   Apr-24-09 10:13 AM   #138 
  - In the future  ProudDad   Apr-23-09 04:04 PM   #43 
  - I guarantee that will not happen in our lifetimes.  Codeine   Apr-23-09 04:14 PM   #51 
     - If you're in reasonably good health  ProudDad   Apr-23-09 10:30 PM   #101 
  - Then buy one with a few miles on it. People are giving their cars back and getting repo'd like crazy  LeftyMom   Apr-23-09 04:06 PM   #45 
  - Buy an old junker for a few hundred bucks.  Hanse   Apr-23-09 04:11 PM   #50 
  - You got it. Been driving mid 70s cars since I began driving in the mid 80s  Echo In Light   Apr-23-09 04:35 PM   #59 
  - Some inflation statistics...  ContinentalOp   Apr-23-09 04:44 PM   #64 
  - Comparing the two is silly.  Codeine   Apr-23-09 05:10 PM   #69 
     - This is to be expected, though  MajorChode   Apr-23-09 05:19 PM   #70 
     - And legacy costs more than offset those savings. nt  Codeine   Apr-23-09 05:23 PM   #71 
        - The legacy costs supposedly amount to $1600 per vehicle.  ContinentalOp   Apr-23-09 06:45 PM   #83 
     - I disagree, but at any rate it's missing the point.  ContinentalOp   Apr-23-09 06:38 PM   #79 
        - Airbags and safety stuff sure do. nt  Codeine   Apr-23-09 06:41 PM   #80 
           - Well, let's look at that Chevy Malibu example again.  ContinentalOp   Apr-23-09 06:50 PM   #86 
  - We just got a new Chevy Aveo with 0% financing  Maeve   Apr-23-09 04:58 PM   #67 
  - Enjoy your DAEWOO  JCMach1   Apr-24-09 08:07 AM   #132 
     - As I said, we've enjoyed the other one  Maeve   Apr-24-09 12:18 PM   #151 
        - I can't bitch about it as I own a Hyundai...  JCMach1   Apr-25-09 01:52 AM   #160 
           - We also got a free year of OnStar, which is nice when traveling  Maeve   Apr-25-09 08:14 AM   #164 
              - I had to have a tough 4x4 that can take the conditions here in the UAE  JCMach1   Apr-25-09 09:55 AM   #165 
                 - I understand--I have to hold onto the van for festival travel  Maeve   Apr-25-09 12:38 PM   #166 
  - How American is that car???  Rosco T.   Apr-23-09 06:33 PM   #75 
  - This has more accurate info:  Initech   Apr-23-09 06:56 PM   #90 
  - Toyota Yaris: $12,205  depakid   Apr-23-09 06:54 PM   #88 
  - close but not quite right...  Javaman   Apr-23-09 10:37 PM   #102 
  - Zap cars. Three wheel, all electric vehicles, with solar panels  Obamanaut   Apr-24-09 08:01 AM   #129 
     - the shuttle and the zebra are cool  carlyhippy   Apr-24-09 08:18 AM   #133 
     - I've looked at the Zap. nice vehicles but the 3 wheeled car only does 40 mph  Javaman   Apr-24-09 11:39 AM   #146 
  - Union: Whatever! (PS: Thank GAWD it passed!) nt  Romulox   Apr-24-09 06:34 AM   #116 
  - Hey that's my car!  OnionPatch   Apr-24-09 07:53 AM   #128 
  - Yeah new cars are ridiculously priced.  Initech   Apr-23-09 07:02 PM   #92 
  - NO! We are just WAYYYYYYYY UNDERPAID, thanks to cheap labor Conservatism!  B Calm   Apr-23-09 07:02 PM   #93 
  - Another blast at GM. I think Japanese cars are way fucking overpriced.  DainBramaged   Apr-23-09 07:31 PM   #96 
  - I think my point was in support of unions...  JANdad   Apr-23-09 07:59 PM   #97 
  - No blast here at all. Turn down the sensitive level. nt  Obamanaut   Apr-24-09 06:59 AM   #121 
  - They are giving huge discounts on  doc03   Apr-23-09 08:51 PM   #98 
  - I bought a Dodge Charger R/T with all the fixins' in Jan '08  ddeclue   Apr-24-09 01:47 AM   #106 
  - Good post, Doug.  Enthusiast   Apr-24-09 04:04 AM   #112 
  - I'm afraid it's you, the phrase "Sticker shock" is not a new concept.  Stevenmarc   Apr-24-09 06:24 AM   #114 
  - A couple of years ago, nicer cars were cheaper than SUVs and pickups  carlyhippy   Apr-24-09 07:13 AM   #123 
     - What's on the sticker is really not all that important  Stevenmarc   Apr-24-09 10:03 AM   #136 
        - Of course, this is part of the problem  n2doc   Apr-24-09 11:01 AM   #144 
        - Trust me, that was the exception  Stevenmarc   Apr-24-09 12:31 PM   #152 
        - Five hours? I wouldn't have gone through that.  high density   Apr-24-09 02:52 PM   #154 
  - How about an 18 month moratorium on sales tax for American cars  JCMach1   Apr-24-09 08:04 AM   #130 
  - How about forcing employers to bring our wages up to where they should be!  B Calm   Apr-24-09 04:57 PM   #158 
  - I'm getting my new lease today.  bigwillq   Apr-24-09 08:20 AM   #134 
  - I have friends in the business  Mopar151   Apr-24-09 10:40 AM   #142 
  - The Camry LE is about $18K which isn't too bad  sfpcjock   Apr-25-09 05:29 AM   #161 
  - Say thanks to Inflation.  Grinchie   Apr-25-09 05:59 AM   #162 
  - I've been driving for 42 years and I've only bought new three times and American cars twice.  mnhtnbb   Apr-25-09 07:29 AM   #163 
  - Are cars overpriced, or are working people way underpaid?  Greyhound   Apr-25-09 12:45 PM   #167 
  - It is you. Cars are way UNDERPRICED. That is why the  david13   Apr-25-09 01:50 PM   #168 
 

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