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Thu Apr-23-09 02:11 PM
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| 18. We can't even find a Ford van to buy for our boarding kennel. |
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We were thinking of that instead of the Dodge (actually Mercedes) Sprinter.
But we can't find one with the size specs we need - and Ford has been on the computer to find us one.
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| -Is it just me or are new cars WAYYYYYYYY overpriced? |
JANdad |
Apr-23-09 01:56 PM |
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Yes, I'm very disappointed with the high prices of both the new Prius and Insights. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-23-09 01:58 PM |
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LOL. Foreign cars are too much for working Americans to afford. Wonder if there's a connection? |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 03:49 PM |
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I'm a working American and I own a Camry which has the same wheel base |
Lorien |
Apr-23-09 10:43 PM |
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I was looking, too ... and I was surprised. |
BattyDem |
Apr-23-09 02:00 PM |
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I was looking at Malibu as well, but crap... $24,000.00 plus... Don't think so... n/t |
LakeSamish706 |
Apr-23-09 02:01 PM |
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I know... |
JANdad |
Apr-23-09 02:04 PM |
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My Malibu is about 2 months old. It was $19,500 out the door. |
Saturday |
Apr-23-09 02:41 PM |
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Subsidize the purchase of a new car? You've got to be fucking kidding |
taterguy |
Apr-23-09 04:33 PM |
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well for you we could |
JANdad |
Apr-24-09 06:14 AM |
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So when a question can't be answered just resort to a personal attack? |
taterguy |
Apr-24-09 06:31 AM |
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The Malibu was the only "car" we looked at when auto shopping last summer |
carlyhippy |
Apr-24-09 07:16 AM |
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Get a car that's a couple of years old. |
Cary |
Apr-23-09 02:01 PM |
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With the new programs from GM |
JANdad |
Apr-23-09 02:06 PM |
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I have 138,000 miles on my 1999 Volvo S70 T5. |
Cary |
Apr-23-09 02:10 PM |
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That's how I felt about my 1987 Camry--which is still in great shape |
kaygore |
Apr-24-09 02:09 AM |
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The price drops the minute you drive that new car off the lot, basically! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-23-09 07:24 PM |
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Agree. Anything mid-sized is ridiculous. |
n2doc |
Apr-23-09 02:03 PM |
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So buy a lease return. |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 02:05 PM |
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Yes, I just did in January |
county worker |
Apr-23-09 02:33 PM |
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they load up a lot more options as standard now... |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-23-09 02:06 PM |
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I've never purchased a *new* car. Only cars 1-2 years old. |
phantom power |
Apr-23-09 02:07 PM |
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Me too! |
Uben |
Apr-24-09 04:20 PM |
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I bought my car when it was 8 months old, 6k miles. |
flvegan |
Apr-23-09 02:07 PM |
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We paid 16K (& change) for a $35,000 car..less than 12K miles on it |
SoCalDem |
Apr-23-09 06:45 PM |
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Hyundai...incredible amount of car for the money, Consumer Reports top choices |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 02:07 PM |
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And fuck union labor in your own country, right? |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 02:32 PM |
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Problem is.... |
moez |
Apr-23-09 03:08 PM |
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So you're comparing 80's vintage American cars |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 03:13 PM |
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Just basing it on my own experience, |
moez |
Apr-23-09 03:28 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-23-09 03:51 PM |
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Hmmmmm..... I've been a member about 4 years longer than you - |
moez |
Apr-23-09 04:32 PM |
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American autoworkers are NOT paid "twice as much". That's RW propaganda. |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:34 PM |
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Your nonsense doesn't hurt my feelings at all - |
moez |
Apr-23-09 04:36 PM |
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And your lack of basic fact-checking isn't a shortcoming? |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:43 PM |
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OK ... It's time to put your money where your mouth is .... |
Trajan |
Apr-24-09 02:29 AM |
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Duck-quack |
Enthusiast |
Apr-24-09 03:56 AM |
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I don't give a shit who's to blame. |
moez |
Apr-24-09 10:48 AM |
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How about you end your |
Enthusiast |
Apr-24-09 11:48 AM |
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The facts just don't back you up |
moez |
Apr-24-09 12:04 PM |
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Are you intentionally ignoring what I said? |
Enthusiast |
Apr-24-09 02:32 PM |
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My POS 2005 Dodge Caravan would disagree, |
Xithras |
Apr-23-09 03:46 PM |
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I support outsourcing IT for exactly the same reasons you don't support Labor. |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 03:52 PM |
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You didn't read my post... |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 03:59 PM |
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You support Labor with actions. Your words are empty. nt |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:05 PM |
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Your head is empty. I DO support unions through my actions. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 04:10 PM |
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When you are extolling the virtues of Hyundais on this message board you mean? |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:29 PM |
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Very different situation. |
Xithras |
Apr-23-09 03:59 PM |
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LOLOL. Of course it is! Because it affects you and your state. |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:04 PM |
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And I Support Outsourcing IT and Buying 12 Year Old Used Cars |
NashVegas |
Apr-24-09 06:46 AM |
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I love this. It's a circle of economic darwinism! I support P2P because creative types |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 07:42 AM |
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You Think So? |
NashVegas |
Apr-24-09 04:12 PM |
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And many owners of |
Enthusiast |
Apr-24-09 11:51 AM |
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You are completely wrong! |
Enthusiast |
Apr-24-09 03:52 AM |
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Really? |
Le Taz Hot |
Apr-24-09 08:30 AM |
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Not at all. I do a lot of work promoting unions |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 03:50 PM |
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LOL. Some of my BEST friends are union members! |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 03:53 PM |
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That's not at all what I said. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 04:09 PM |
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Non-union printers are cheaper. Why should I support YOUR labor if you don't support MINE? |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:30 PM |
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Keep swingin' for the fences! You're striking out every time. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 04:37 PM |
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It defies imagination that you keep on trying to bolster your union cred |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:48 PM |
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No imagination needed. Just a modicum of honesty and intelligence. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 05:47 PM |
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I don't think you get it: I don't care any more about you and yours than you care me |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 06:38 AM |
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BTW, Hyundai's are UNION BUILT. |
Atman |
Apr-24-09 10:14 AM |
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Not in Alabammy they ain't. nt |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 10:27 AM |
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Why do you feel compelled to defend yourself against a shill for management. |
Telly Savalas |
Apr-23-09 09:07 PM |
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Good point. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 09:22 PM |
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You kidding me? This guy was looking for the attention. |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 06:37 AM |
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We don't need to demonize you |
Atman |
Apr-24-09 07:37 AM |
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Wow, romulux has created quite the stir on this thread |
carlyhippy |
Apr-24-09 07:44 AM |
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You DO know that the Sante Fe is built in Alabama don't you? |
Rosco T. |
Apr-23-09 06:29 PM |
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Well, I knew it, but Mr. High-N-Mighty I'm sure doesn't care. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 06:32 PM |
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I don't support Southern state union busting. |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 06:35 PM |
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Oh, I know that all too well! |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 06:49 PM |
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By non-union labor. |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 06:33 PM |
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Key words..."Whenever possible." |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 06:38 PM |
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They are union built though... |
JCMach1 |
Apr-24-09 08:05 AM |
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By what union? |
Codeine |
Apr-24-09 04:18 PM |
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Here is one example |
JCMach1 |
Apr-25-09 01:50 AM |
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BUYING USED DOES NOT HELP THE AUTO INDUSTRY! |
JANdad |
Apr-23-09 02:08 PM |
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Actually it DOES. |
Xithras |
Apr-23-09 03:51 PM |
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Most manufacturers have buyback agreements with rental car companies. |
kcass1954 |
Apr-23-09 07:03 PM |
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Well, it depends |
tammywammy |
Apr-24-09 07:05 AM |
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Easy Credit Fall Out... |
KharmaTrain |
Apr-23-09 02:09 PM |
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Did they pass the $5K credit for getting older cars off the road? |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-23-09 02:10 PM |
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Check out the property taxes and insurance you'll be paying before buying new. |
FudaFuda |
Apr-23-09 02:11 PM |
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Ahhh... no. |
Rosco T. |
Apr-23-09 06:41 PM |
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Fair enough, but ... |
FudaFuda |
Apr-23-09 06:52 PM |
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"Figure out how much that 3% loan is costing you over the life of the loan" |
Rosco T. |
Apr-24-09 01:02 AM |
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We can't even find a Ford van to buy for our boarding kennel. |
Jane Austin |
Apr-23-09 02:11 PM |
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I have never purchased new. |
liberal N proud |
Apr-23-09 02:28 PM |
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What kind of profit have car companies made recently? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-23-09 02:31 PM |
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Wow, that's a pretty dumb conclusion. |
tabasco |
Apr-23-09 06:41 PM |
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So you think there's a much larger market for cars than currently exists |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-23-09 07:01 PM |
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I don't think the definition of "overpriced" the OP used has anything to do with profit margins. |
greyl |
Apr-24-09 01:13 AM |
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True - meaning "new cars don't seem worth the effort needed to make them, to me" |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-24-09 11:38 AM |
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Find a dealer that sells rental fleet cars that have low mileage |
county worker |
Apr-23-09 02:31 PM |
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It's Not Just You |
RobinA |
Apr-23-09 02:39 PM |
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2010 Mazda3 is a completely new design |
high density |
Apr-23-09 02:52 PM |
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The Malibu definitely is. That's a $17k car IMO. |
high density |
Apr-23-09 02:47 PM |
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Detroit lost a customer because of the Malibu. |
Atman |
Apr-23-09 04:16 PM |
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Well, imports are subject to huge tariffs by the US government. |
960 |
Apr-23-09 02:50 PM |
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No they're not. Link? nt |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 03:53 PM |
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Depends on what you call huge |
AZ Criminal JD |
Apr-23-09 04:09 PM |
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2.5% is not huge. What is the tariff on a US car imported into Japan or Korea? |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:33 PM |
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I don't know |
AZ Criminal JD |
Apr-23-09 04:43 PM |
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Of course you don't. And you're not interested in finding out, either. |
Romulox |
Apr-23-09 04:49 PM |
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You apparently are interested in finding out either. |
AZ Criminal JD |
Apr-23-09 05:01 PM |
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I'm interested in pointing out hit-and-run anti-Labor posters. |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 06:42 AM |
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At least I have facts, something that alludes you. |
AZ Criminal JD |
Apr-24-09 10:07 AM |
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The word is "elude". Malapropisms are fairly common in your posts, however. |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 10:17 AM |
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Where have I pretended? |
AZ Criminal JD |
Apr-24-09 11:51 AM |
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Since when? |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 04:11 PM |
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No, not nearly enough actually. |
spoony |
Apr-23-09 06:55 PM |
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Really? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-24-09 02:13 AM |
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See post #46 but you have never been one for the truth |
AZ Criminal JD |
Apr-24-09 10:13 AM |
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In the future |
ProudDad |
Apr-23-09 04:04 PM |
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I guarantee that will not happen in our lifetimes. |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 04:14 PM |
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If you're in reasonably good health |
ProudDad |
Apr-23-09 10:30 PM |
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Then buy one with a few miles on it. People are giving their cars back and getting repo'd like crazy |
LeftyMom |
Apr-23-09 04:06 PM |
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Buy an old junker for a few hundred bucks. |
Hanse |
Apr-23-09 04:11 PM |
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You got it. Been driving mid 70s cars since I began driving in the mid 80s |
Echo In Light |
Apr-23-09 04:35 PM |
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Some inflation statistics... |
ContinentalOp |
Apr-23-09 04:44 PM |
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Comparing the two is silly. |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 05:10 PM |
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This is to be expected, though |
MajorChode |
Apr-23-09 05:19 PM |
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And legacy costs more than offset those savings. nt |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 05:23 PM |
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The legacy costs supposedly amount to $1600 per vehicle. |
ContinentalOp |
Apr-23-09 06:45 PM |
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I disagree, but at any rate it's missing the point. |
ContinentalOp |
Apr-23-09 06:38 PM |
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Airbags and safety stuff sure do. nt |
Codeine |
Apr-23-09 06:41 PM |
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Well, let's look at that Chevy Malibu example again. |
ContinentalOp |
Apr-23-09 06:50 PM |
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We just got a new Chevy Aveo with 0% financing |
Maeve |
Apr-23-09 04:58 PM |
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Enjoy your DAEWOO |
JCMach1 |
Apr-24-09 08:07 AM |
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As I said, we've enjoyed the other one |
Maeve |
Apr-24-09 12:18 PM |
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I can't bitch about it as I own a Hyundai... |
JCMach1 |
Apr-25-09 01:52 AM |
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We also got a free year of OnStar, which is nice when traveling |
Maeve |
Apr-25-09 08:14 AM |
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I had to have a tough 4x4 that can take the conditions here in the UAE |
JCMach1 |
Apr-25-09 09:55 AM |
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I understand--I have to hold onto the van for festival travel |
Maeve |
Apr-25-09 12:38 PM |
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How American is that car??? |
Rosco T. |
Apr-23-09 06:33 PM |
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This has more accurate info: |
Initech |
Apr-23-09 06:56 PM |
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Toyota Yaris: $12,205 |
depakid |
Apr-23-09 06:54 PM |
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close but not quite right... |
Javaman |
Apr-23-09 10:37 PM |
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Zap cars. Three wheel, all electric vehicles, with solar panels |
Obamanaut |
Apr-24-09 08:01 AM |
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the shuttle and the zebra are cool |
carlyhippy |
Apr-24-09 08:18 AM |
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I've looked at the Zap. nice vehicles but the 3 wheeled car only does 40 mph |
Javaman |
Apr-24-09 11:39 AM |
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Union: Whatever! (PS: Thank GAWD it passed!) nt |
Romulox |
Apr-24-09 06:34 AM |
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Hey that's my car! |
OnionPatch |
Apr-24-09 07:53 AM |
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Yeah new cars are ridiculously priced. |
Initech |
Apr-23-09 07:02 PM |
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NO! We are just WAYYYYYYYY UNDERPAID, thanks to cheap labor Conservatism! |
B Calm |
Apr-23-09 07:02 PM |
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Another blast at GM. I think Japanese cars are way fucking overpriced. |
DainBramaged |
Apr-23-09 07:31 PM |
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I think my point was in support of unions... |
JANdad |
Apr-23-09 07:59 PM |
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No blast here at all. Turn down the sensitive level. nt |
Obamanaut |
Apr-24-09 06:59 AM |
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They are giving huge discounts on |
doc03 |
Apr-23-09 08:51 PM |
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I bought a Dodge Charger R/T with all the fixins' in Jan '08 |
ddeclue |
Apr-24-09 01:47 AM |
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Good post, Doug. |
Enthusiast |
Apr-24-09 04:04 AM |
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I'm afraid it's you, the phrase "Sticker shock" is not a new concept. |
Stevenmarc |
Apr-24-09 06:24 AM |
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A couple of years ago, nicer cars were cheaper than SUVs and pickups |
carlyhippy |
Apr-24-09 07:13 AM |
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What's on the sticker is really not all that important |
Stevenmarc |
Apr-24-09 10:03 AM |
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Of course, this is part of the problem |
n2doc |
Apr-24-09 11:01 AM |
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Trust me, that was the exception |
Stevenmarc |
Apr-24-09 12:31 PM |
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Five hours? I wouldn't have gone through that. |
high density |
Apr-24-09 02:52 PM |
#154 |
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How about an 18 month moratorium on sales tax for American cars |
JCMach1 |
Apr-24-09 08:04 AM |
#130 |
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How about forcing employers to bring our wages up to where they should be! |
B Calm |
Apr-24-09 04:57 PM |
#158 |
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I'm getting my new lease today. |
bigwillq |
Apr-24-09 08:20 AM |
#134 |
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I have friends in the business |
Mopar151 |
Apr-24-09 10:40 AM |
#142 |
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The Camry LE is about $18K which isn't too bad |
sfpcjock |
Apr-25-09 05:29 AM |
#161 |
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Say thanks to Inflation. |
Grinchie |
Apr-25-09 05:59 AM |
#162 |
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I've been driving for 42 years and I've only bought new three times and American cars twice. |
mnhtnbb |
Apr-25-09 07:29 AM |
#163 |
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Are cars overpriced, or are working people way underpaid? |
Greyhound |
Apr-25-09 12:45 PM |
#167 |
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It is you. Cars are way UNDERPRICED. That is why the |
david13 |
Apr-25-09 01:50 PM |
#168 |
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