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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:06 AM
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8. I think they'll go the OTHER way with their argument, and complain that
torture is "relative." For example, some people think going to the dentist is "torture," others think sitting in a hot car in rush hour traffic is "torture." They will claim (and, FWIW, let's get this out of the way... anyone who thinks I am "defending" these practices, and approaches me from that perspective, is a big fat idiot stupider than Rush Limbaugh) that "torture" was not their intent, their intent was to make the prisoners extremely uncomfortable and, as they gave up info, they would make them more comfortable. They will try to pass it off as "carrot and stick."

What we know about it, whatever it's called, is that it doesn't work in most cases.
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  -The Torture Apologists Have Doomed Their Argument tekisui  Apr-23-09 07:58 AM   #0 
  - Excellent post on a serious subject. Still, guffawed at the last line !  K Gardner   Apr-23-09 08:00 AM   #1 
  - their other argument is, "Democrats signed off and authorized it too". And it's this argument  KittyWampus   Apr-23-09 08:01 AM   #2 
  - I say let the investigations and hearings lead where they may.  tekisui   Apr-23-09 08:05 AM   #5 
  - IMO, that's the most appropriate response. Oh, the Repubs also are saying "it worked".  KittyWampus   Apr-23-09 08:14 AM   # 
     - They will have to prove that.  glitch   Apr-23-09 09:29 AM   #26 
  - Being a Democrat is no shield if you're complicit  lunatica   Apr-23-09 08:06 AM   #9 
  - Kicked...  OneAngryDemocrat   Apr-23-09 08:04 AM   #3 
  - This says they are doomed...Ammendment 8..U.S.Constitution..  Stuart G   Apr-23-09 08:04 AM   #4 
  - Well, that too.  tekisui   Apr-23-09 08:06 AM   #7 
  - :) K & R nt  glitch   Apr-23-09 09:32 AM   #27 
  - Don't you remember how Scalia got around this in his twisted mind?  dalaigh lllama   Apr-23-09 11:11 AM   #30 
  - "but it worked"  merh   Apr-23-09 08:05 AM   #6 
  - They have no evidence it worked, and it doesn't matter.  tekisui   Apr-23-09 08:11 AM   #12 
  - I agree  merh   Apr-23-09 08:29 AM   #18 
  - the Brazen Bull may have served a purpose too -- but when that premises falls where will  Supersedeas   Apr-23-09 11:17 AM   #31 
     - most will still be in denial  merh   Apr-23-09 03:03 PM   #32 
  - I think they'll go the OTHER way with their argument, and complain that  MADem   Apr-23-09 08:06 AM   #8 
  - Offering to be waterboarded is a meaningless, stupid stunt.  Atman   Apr-23-09 08:09 AM   #10 
  - I think it'll work even better with them knowing they aren't actually trying to  safeinOhio   Apr-23-09 08:22 AM   #16 
  - Exactly. .I fantasize about the look on ...  OneGrassRoot   Apr-23-09 08:10 AM   #11 
  - Agreed..If the Military protects Karpinski..and goes against the  Stuart G   Apr-23-09 08:14 AM   #13 
     - That's what needs to happen. But I wonder....  OneGrassRoot   Apr-23-09 08:16 AM   #14 
  - There arguments don't even ruffle my feathers. The MSM and the world are calling it torture.  Political Heretic   Apr-23-09 08:22 AM   #15 
  - PS - Hannity's argument that the practices are "benign" is a catch-22  Political Heretic   Apr-23-09 08:25 AM   #17 
     - "I LOVE the fact that we question our leaders."  Laelth   Apr-23-09 09:52 AM   #28 
  - Unfortunately it doesn't matter  DireStrike   Apr-23-09 08:29 AM   #19 
  - I think that's very realistic, unfortunately.  JohnnyLib2   Apr-23-09 08:32 AM   #20 
     - Nationalism, masquerading as patriotism.  DCKit   Apr-24-09 12:41 AM   #34 
  - To keep defending it, they'll have to keep defending Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice.  chill_wind   Apr-23-09 08:33 AM   #21 
  - What about?  90-percent   Apr-23-09 08:40 AM   #22 
  - Good point. Hannity needs to have it done 188 times to make his point.  tekisui   Apr-23-09 08:44 AM   #23 
  - I want more to point out the fact we tried & executed Japanese  hlthe2b   Apr-23-09 09:13 AM   #24 
  - Agreed.  tekisui   Apr-23-09 09:25 AM   #25 
  - RW Head Cases: Typical Apologist Sputum here:  chill_wind   Apr-23-09 09:56 AM   #29 
  - Talking Point # 3: Trying to prosecute would be "extremely dangerous".  chill_wind   Apr-23-09 09:57 PM   #33 
  - I can hardly wait for another batch of torture memos to be released. The public seems to disapprove  Hekate   Apr-24-09 02:08 AM   #35 

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