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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:32 PM
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15. Anyone remember the movie, Brainstorm?
If you do, you will remember what the US military wanted to do with the research done by Chris Walken and Louise Fletcher's characters--use it to torture and show recruits what they might be subjected to, including Fletcher's character when she had her fatal heart attack.

Using the machine's ability to instill any set of both physiological and mental change into an individual made it a usual weapon, even as much as the good characters showed its more enjoyabe side at the same time. The machine also was able to convey emotion itself, not necessarily bad emotion, but painful even, and love.

We are inching closer and closer to the science in Brainstorm, a movie 25 years in the past. We have managed to create virtual reality in many ways, but we haven't got the ability yet to make it physically real.

Regardless, that's what this video reminded me of--a scenario where reality and fiction merge, and it's difficult to determine what is happening, especially the sense of drowning in such a case. I'd fold after a lot less seconds than the reporter did!
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  -Journalist bets he can stand waterboarding for 15 seconds (Video) JohnyCanuck  Apr-22-09 03:17 PM   #0 
  - oops... started to watch but it said "playboy original video."  Lisa0825   Apr-22-09 03:19 PM   #1 
  - jesus. the soldier doesnt think its torture. jesus. nt  Mari333   Apr-22-09 03:22 PM   #2 
  - Hey, the guy may have been Ranger or SF trained. If active duty, he could not legally  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 03:27 PM   #3 
  - What about the recent guy who was waterboarded...  CoffeeCat   Apr-22-09 03:34 PM   #7 
     - The former CIA senior agent on Mathew's show said that K. Mohamed had probably  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 07:17 PM   #17 
        - So, do we know where K. Mohamed is now?  CoffeeCat   Apr-22-09 07:36 PM   #26 
  - I question whether that guy is a soldier  NeedleCast   Apr-22-09 04:19 PM   #12 
  - It was probably for Added Realism...  jmowreader   Apr-22-09 07:28 PM   #23 
  - If he's Special Forces with SERE training he's been waterboarded during training.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Apr-22-09 08:04 PM   #31 
     - Yeah, during training on how to resist torture  Bluenorthwest   Apr-22-09 09:31 PM   #39 
        - Not saying he was trained to do it.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Apr-22-09 09:35 PM   #41 
           - One can volunteer to be tortured  Bluenorthwest   Apr-22-09 09:47 PM   #42 
              - The journalist volunteered to be waterboarded.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Apr-22-09 09:51 PM   #43 
  - No need to watch the video  walldude   Apr-22-09 03:30 PM   #4 
  - "knew it wasn't real" Bingo!  Hassin Bin Sober   Apr-22-09 03:41 PM   #8 
  - You're wrong about that  FiveGoodMen   Apr-22-09 03:41 PM   #9 
  - Yeah, I wonder if he had volunteered to do this three times in a row, if he would  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 07:21 PM   #19 
  - the video proved he was such a moran he didn't really understand the process. Must not be an  omega minimo   Apr-22-09 07:38 PM   #27 
  - That soldier seemed emotionally flatlined...  CoffeeCat   Apr-22-09 03:31 PM   #5 
  - No, IMO, he was playing a role. People who have to go into an area ahead of others  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 07:19 PM   #18 
  - His distinction seemed to be whether you're "invoking an existing fear" or "actual damage" and blood  omega minimo   Apr-22-09 07:35 PM   #25 
  - He didn't make it 5 seconds. nt  rateyes   Apr-22-09 03:33 PM   #6 
  - I counted to three one thousand before he dropped it  NNN0LHI   Apr-22-09 04:09 PM   #11 
  - I wonder if curling your upper lip over your nostrils could keep the water out. n/t  Ian David   Apr-22-09 03:58 PM   #10 
  - Possibly  Hard_Work   Apr-22-09 04:25 PM   #13 
  - I bet the cloth keeps your lip away from your nose anyway. And compresses your nostrils open. n/t  Ian David   Apr-22-09 05:55 PM   #14 
  - I don't know anyone who has an upper lip long enough to cover their nose?  NNN0LHI   Apr-22-09 06:34 PM   #16 
     - Let me introduce myself  RedCappedBandit   Apr-22-09 07:41 PM   #29 
     - I tried it, and I can "scrunch" my lip up high enough to partially cover my nostrils. n/t  Ian David   Apr-22-09 07:59 PM   #30 
  - Anyone remember the movie, Brainstorm?  hyphenate   Apr-22-09 06:32 PM   #15 
  - Everyone emotionally breaks down and says "anything" ... or they die in the process.  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 07:23 PM   #21 
  - .  omega minimo   Apr-22-09 07:24 PM   #22 
  - .  omega minimo   Apr-22-09 07:22 PM   #20 
  - How can that "soldier" think waterboarding isn't torture?  Lucian   Apr-22-09 07:32 PM   #24 
  - He doesn't think. His script tells him it can't be torture unless there's "actual damage" & blood  omega minimo   Apr-22-09 07:41 PM   #28 
  - Special Operations troops with SERE training are waterboarded during training.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Apr-22-09 08:07 PM   #32 
  - No, Special Ops and other "first alert" troops are trained to KNOW that torture will break you  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 08:55 PM   #34 
     - Yes and that training involves waterboarding.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Apr-22-09 09:05 PM   #37 
  - That's part of the "Role Play" for teaching tolerance for torture. These methods have only ONE GOAL.  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 08:49 PM   #33 
     - "f you want any further information, however bogus, you will have to repeatedly torture." truth  BelgianMadCow   Apr-22-09 09:00 PM   #35 
        - Yes, and now, because of all the oxygen starvation, the guy's probably "a vegetable."  ShortnFiery   Apr-22-09 09:01 PM   #36 
           - next, I imagine this happening on a routine basis  BelgianMadCow   Apr-22-09 09:12 PM   #38 
  - No thanks. I prefer porn that has sex in it, rather than violence  McCamy Taylor   Apr-22-09 09:34 PM   #40 
  - Can't watch  Born_A_Truman   Apr-22-09 10:08 PM   #44 

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