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Tue Apr-21-09 01:44 PM
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if I thought you were truly interested in anyone else's perspective.
My Great-grandfather fought in it. Two of his brothers died in it. I'm not ignorant about the history or the rhetoric.
It wasn't the cut and dried lesson you'd like to paint it as.
Sarcasm is not your friend.
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| -Racism is Alive and Well in America |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:06 AM |
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I fear that your well made point will end up sinking like a stone |
Raineyb |
Apr-21-09 11:09 AM |
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i think you're right too, but so it goes. |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:13 AM |
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I think you're right. |
tbyg52 |
Apr-21-09 11:10 AM |
#2 |
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not too mention that it's like pulling teeth |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:15 AM |
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why not just have laws |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:18 AM |
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... |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:21 AM |
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and what |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:25 AM |
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it's like i'm talking to a wall. |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:29 AM |
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If a crime |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:32 AM |
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do you believe in the possibility that maybe, just maybe, sometimes |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:37 AM |
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I see |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:41 AM |
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i see. so what you're really saying is: |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:52 AM |
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hahahahahaha |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:00 PM |
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You are so fucking wrong |
CBGLuthier |
Apr-21-09 12:51 PM |
#75 |
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Actually, it's apparent that you DON'T see. |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 12:06 PM |
#56 |
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you're right |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:15 PM |
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STANDING OVATION |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 12:17 PM |
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It's a kind of social TERRORISM. |
conscious evolution |
Apr-21-09 02:21 PM |
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but isn't gang warfare also the same thing? |
northzax |
Apr-22-09 11:30 AM |
#146 |
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Hate crime laws DO cover all races - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-21-09 12:00 PM |
#48 |
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GMTA (See my post #56.) |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 12:10 PM |
#57 |
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At my PUblix I have two AA women, one a manager, one a cashier, with |
monmouth |
Apr-21-09 11:16 AM |
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excellent example. had a similar conversation at work here last week. |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:24 AM |
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i don't think that's it, so much. as i remember the freepers talking |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-21-09 01:43 PM |
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I'm sure they were pleasantly surprised to be wrong. |
Raineyb |
Apr-21-09 12:10 PM |
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Oh that's exactly what it was. I mean it's not as if we hang around |
monmouth |
Apr-21-09 12:32 PM |
#72 |
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You're not alone, I'd say the same thing out loud. And I do. |
Sequoia |
Apr-21-09 01:31 PM |
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Your claim to be white doesn't validate anything. |
laureloak |
Apr-21-09 02:13 PM |
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Get a grip okay??? You obviously missed my point..n/t |
monmouth |
Apr-21-09 02:47 PM |
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I didn't miss your point at all, but you seem to have missed mine. |
laureloak |
Apr-21-09 04:02 PM |
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I don't see that at all. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-22-09 11:21 AM |
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The "divide" is no longer between black and white as much as it's ... |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 03:24 PM |
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I see anti-white threads on here every day. Time to stop it. n/t |
laureloak |
Apr-21-09 04:03 PM |
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hahaha |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:16 AM |
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States rights? Limiting power and scope of government? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 11:19 AM |
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srsly? |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:22 AM |
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YA RLY. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 11:24 AM |
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maybe because it's |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:28 AM |
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You mean beside fucking redneck racist shitbags? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 12:47 PM |
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it was about money & power. slavery second-hand to the money & power, |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-21-09 12:56 PM |
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It was about slavery, period. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 12:59 PM |
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omg |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:02 PM |
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Oh, it is a fact. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 01:05 PM |
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srsly r u srsly |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:06 PM |
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Look it up yourself. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 01:07 PM |
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by whom |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:09 PM |
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Do you own this book? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 01:26 PM |
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i dunno |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:30 PM |
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the slavery supported one faction's money & power. if not for the $, |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-21-09 01:11 PM |
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Georgias letter of seccession |
conscious evolution |
Apr-21-09 02:37 PM |
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I thought it was about preserving the union? |
JonLP24 |
Apr-21-09 04:06 PM |
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Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union because the South seceded over slavery. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 04:12 PM |
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You're really arguing |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-21-09 01:43 PM |
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Exactly - there may have been many other issues involved, but |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-21-09 03:27 PM |
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Of course it was. |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-21-09 03:45 PM |
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And since most of the men who fought in the Civil War didn't own |
Kalyke |
Apr-21-09 11:59 AM |
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history |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:04 PM |
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I think you would need to learn it. |
Kalyke |
Apr-21-09 12:10 PM |
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yes |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:16 PM |
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The rights for states to own slaves was their issue. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 12:48 PM |
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taxes |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:00 PM |
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Taxes were no major issue leading to the Civil War... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 01:04 PM |
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srsly r u srsly |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:07 PM |
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lol |
d_b |
Apr-21-09 01:30 PM |
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Obviously, as the vast majority of them have just gotten tax CUTS, |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-21-09 03:53 PM |
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Don't make the common mistake of thinking the rationales given to the cannon fodder are ... |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 01:10 PM |
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Most of the men who fought |
conscious evolution |
Apr-21-09 02:43 PM |
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Slavery wasn't the only issue of the Civil War |
Chisox08 |
Apr-21-09 04:40 PM |
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Taxes had little to do with the start of the Civil War |
Thothmes |
Apr-21-09 06:47 PM |
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It makes no difference if they DID own slaves or not. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-22-09 11:10 AM |
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Careful with that. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-21-09 12:05 PM |
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Absolutely right |
conscious evolution |
Apr-21-09 02:27 PM |
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Uh, you're kidding, right.....? nt |
tbyg52 |
Apr-21-09 11:25 AM |
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not kidding |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:28 AM |
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Then where were these nuts during the past 7 yrs.? |
tnlefty |
Apr-21-09 11:30 AM |
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partisanship |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:35 AM |
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So it was partianship that kept them from giving a damn about |
tnlefty |
Apr-21-09 11:48 AM |
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that's a better |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:49 AM |
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don't believe anyone called them "ALL" racists. |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:54 AM |
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your going on speculation |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:03 PM |
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Have you seen the signs from the 'tea-parties'? |
stillcool |
Apr-21-09 12:12 PM |
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no |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:17 PM |
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They are the same people... |
stillcool |
Apr-21-09 12:20 PM |
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found a |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:23 PM |
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well I found a few that had to do with taxes |
stillcool |
Apr-21-09 01:21 PM |
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Maybe not all, just 98.9999999% are racially motivated. |
tnlefty |
Apr-21-09 11:54 AM |
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not about the puppets, but the puppetmasters. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-21-09 01:00 PM |
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I suppose we remember it a little differently. I remember |
tnlefty |
Apr-21-09 02:03 PM |
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you're a fool if you think that's what it's all about- |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-21-09 11:30 AM |
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oh please history buff |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:35 AM |
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I'd be more than happy to |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-21-09 01:44 PM |
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Wow. I was about to post the same thing. |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 11:34 AM |
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education in America |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:36 AM |
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Cute. So, anyone who disagrees with you is young and ignorant, huh? |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 11:40 AM |
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thanks |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:43 AM |
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i feel honored that you |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:50 AM |
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appreciate that |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 11:54 AM |
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It's revisionist history with racial undertones. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 12:52 PM |
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If the issue was NOT slavery, why is it that only slave states turned traitor? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-21-09 12:13 PM |
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Coincidence? They were more "attuned" to Constitutional values and civil liberties? |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 12:16 PM |
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maybe |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 12:20 PM |
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The ones that kicked racist South ass. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 12:54 PM |
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racism, for the south only :rofl: |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:05 PM |
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Oh, I never said is was only in the south. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 01:07 PM |
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you = |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:08 PM |
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Not at all. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 01:28 PM |
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"So that there are African Americans in bondage well into the antebellum era." |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 01:27 PM |
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she was referring to northern states |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:35 PM |
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I think she was using it correctly if you correct the punctuation in |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-21-09 03:10 PM |
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Then explain the Fugitive Slave Act. |
NorthernSpy |
Apr-21-09 12:02 PM |
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Let's not forget the "Missouri Compromise." |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 12:22 PM |
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States don't have rights |
WeDidIt |
Apr-21-09 01:10 PM |
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limited only in regards to |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:19 PM |
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And powers delegated to the federal government |
WeDidIt |
Apr-21-09 01:25 PM |
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obviously |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:30 PM |
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Wrong |
WeDidIt |
Apr-21-09 03:46 PM |
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obviously |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:30 PM |
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The Declaration of Causes of Secession say otherwise. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-21-09 01:12 PM |
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for which state? |
pnutbutr |
Apr-21-09 01:16 PM |
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All four of them: Georgia, Mississippi, S. Carolina and Texas list slavery as their cause. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-21-09 01:38 PM |
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Also, not every state that seceded published their causes. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-21-09 01:39 PM |
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So after 8 years of trampling on states rights, |
EOTE |
Apr-21-09 01:50 PM |
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"denying rights to others" |
ieoeja |
Apr-21-09 04:11 PM |
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Example? |
ieoeja |
Apr-21-09 04:06 PM |
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What I like about these threads... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Apr-21-09 11:20 AM |
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and BINGO was his name-o. |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-21-09 11:26 AM |
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lol |
barbtries |
Apr-21-09 11:36 AM |
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They can't help themselves. |
AspenRose |
Apr-21-09 11:59 AM |
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Indeed. n/t |
Raineyb |
Apr-21-09 12:03 PM |
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degenerated???` |
Froward69 |
Apr-21-09 11:22 AM |
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racism |
Peace_Sells |
Apr-21-09 11:29 AM |
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Once upon a time, many thought that a synonym for "liberal" was "n_____-lover." |
TahitiNut |
Apr-21-09 11:37 AM |
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I believe you're right. nt |
raccoon |
Apr-21-09 12:00 PM |
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i completely agree. nt |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Apr-21-09 11:31 AM |
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caveat: |
barbtries |
Apr-21-09 11:31 AM |
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no shit? |
datasuspect |
Apr-21-09 11:42 AM |
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me too |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Apr-21-09 11:43 AM |
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I guess you forgot the vermont secessionist and alaska secessionist movements |
cbc5g |
Apr-21-09 12:19 PM |
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Was going to say same thing |
Fendius |
Apr-21-09 01:37 PM |
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I haven't forgotten, but there is |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-21-09 01:58 PM |
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when was Vermont? |
hfojvt |
Apr-21-09 02:32 PM |
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First thing I said when I heard secession - "Who knew one black man in a white house could |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-21-09 12:58 PM |
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No Shit. K & R |
mudesi |
Apr-21-09 01:00 PM |
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I agree |
Two Americas |
Apr-21-09 01:54 PM |
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You forgot the second time was actually in the mid sixties during the Civil Rights struggle |
Taverner |
Apr-21-09 02:23 PM |
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I always wonder why.. |
butterfly77 |
Apr-21-09 02:55 PM |
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It's the violent last gasp of bigotry against African-Americans |
Odin2005 |
Apr-21-09 03:42 PM |
#132 |
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