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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:54 PM
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35. See post #34, Beth. nt
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  -Fwiw, I think some of what comes off as impatience re the torture situation EFerrari  Apr-21-09 01:00 AM   #0 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Apr-21-09 01:04 AM   #1 
  - I agree......  FrenchieCat   Apr-21-09 01:18 AM   #2 
  - We do want the same thing. We want Obama to succeed,  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 01:56 AM   #7 
     - I understand.  FrenchieCat   Apr-21-09 02:01 AM   #8 
        - Incredibly important for us to not lose sight of that, FC.  chill_wind   Apr-21-09 10:39 AM   #25 
  - Agreed. I don't think there's anything currently blowing everyone's mind...  DCKit   Apr-21-09 01:21 AM   #3 
  - Solly Mack and chill_wind and I have been following these stories  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 01:23 AM   #4 
     - Agreed.  PDJane   Apr-21-09 01:36 AM   #5 
        - Somehow, we have to make it happen.  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 01:48 AM   #6 
           - For me this is just the mess of Central America coming home to roost  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-21-09 02:05 AM   #9 
              - I try not to have any expectations.  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 02:08 AM   #10 
                 - Yes I did, and speaking of Daniel Ortega  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-21-09 02:10 AM   #11 
                    - Exactly. It was good to see he outlived the bastards.  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 02:11 AM   #12 
  - It really does speak to the heart of what we want our democracy to be.  Solly Mack   Apr-21-09 03:00 AM   #13 
  - Precisely. The meaning of democracy becomes very clear  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 03:13 AM   #15 
     - And matters of its preservation become very urgent  chill_wind   Apr-21-09 10:00 AM   #22 
        - Over 600 individuals. Good God.  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 10:19 AM   #23 
        - !  Solly Mack   Apr-21-09 11:47 PM   #37 
  - Habeas Corpus ain't just a river in Egypt  omega minimo   Apr-21-09 03:03 AM   #14 
  - kr  Norrin Radd   Apr-21-09 04:48 AM   #16 
  - Good points.  JohnnyLib2   Apr-21-09 04:52 AM   #17 
  - An argument to consider in favor of patience...  livvy   Apr-21-09 05:14 AM   #18 
  - This needs to be an OP.  yowzayowzayowza   Apr-21-09 09:49 AM   #20 
  - I did, but it didn't get much of a response.  livvy   Apr-21-09 05:09 PM   #32 
  - Thanks, livvy. I don't think I agree with her but she's right about  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 09:59 AM   #21 
  - See post #34, Beth. nt  Hissyspit   Apr-21-09 10:54 PM   #35 
  - David Swanson's response to Elizabeth de la Veg:  Hissyspit   Apr-21-09 10:53 PM   #34 
     - The problem that I have with Elizabeth's suggested course  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 11:41 PM   #36 
     - Thanks!!!!!  Solly Mack   Apr-21-09 11:49 PM   #38 
     - Top of that list worries me the most:  chill_wind   Apr-22-09 12:02 AM   #42 
     - Yeppers  Solly Mack   Apr-22-09 12:04 AM   #44 
     - Misspelling of Ms. de la Vega's last name was unintentional. nt  Hissyspit   Apr-22-09 12:24 AM   #48 
     - He has (as usual) some good points. #1 would be a top priority concern.  livvy   Apr-22-09 04:59 AM   #53 
  - Oh Beth,  hootinholler   Apr-21-09 08:04 AM   #19 
  - It is not just for our democracy that something must be done,  merh   Apr-21-09 10:29 AM   #24 
  - I hear you- and I understand and  Bluerthanblue   Apr-21-09 10:56 AM   #26 
  - Exactly. And many of us are well acquainted with the concept of drip, drip, drip...  robertpaulsen   Apr-21-09 12:01 PM   #27 
  - I myself detest "unreasoned patience".  mmonk   Apr-21-09 12:10 PM   #28 
  - Me too. nt.  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Apr-21-09 12:11 PM   #29 
  - EFerrari. I respect your comments and commend your  Fire1   Apr-21-09 04:35 PM   #30 
  - I don't think Obama is particularly burdened by anything I do.  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 04:47 PM   #31 
  - If "give Obama a chance" means waiting and hoping . . .  pat_k   Apr-21-09 06:49 PM   #33 
  - I don't think giving Obama a chance to do his job while doing  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 11:49 PM   #39 
     - I fear that most who admonish "give him a chance". . .  pat_k   Apr-22-09 01:39 AM   #50 
  - The dollar and economy are on the verge of collapse...  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-21-09 11:50 PM   #40 
  - You mean, you should only worry about torture if it happens to you?  EFerrari   Apr-21-09 11:57 PM   #41 
     - No, I'm saying we will be in complete chaos...  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-22-09 12:02 AM   #43 
        - It's actually the other way around. The law is what keeps this joint running  EFerrari   Apr-22-09 12:05 AM   #45 
           - The law won't do jack shit if the economy crashes...  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-22-09 12:10 AM   #46 
  - what's frustrating is same stories resurface brief noises of minor shock by those with power to act  yurbud   Apr-22-09 12:12 AM   #47 
     - Every time. But since the ICRC issued its report this month,  EFerrari   Apr-22-09 01:17 AM   #49 
        - and the very first story by Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh didn't?  yurbud   Apr-22-09 01:47 AM   #51 
           - ICRC has standing at the World Court and at the UN.  EFerrari   Apr-22-09 01:54 AM   #52 
              - To summarize a key point of your OP-- perfect example of *2004* ICRC report  chill_wind   Apr-22-09 08:22 AM   #54 
 

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