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Sat Mar-31-07 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| -NEWSWEEK: 27% of atheists& agnostics think God guided evolution; 13% say God made us as we are |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 04:56 PM |
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Is Pascal's Wager making a comeback? |
Kutjara |
Mar-31-07 05:00 PM |
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The ultimate CYA. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-31-07 05:02 PM |
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I'm a dyslexic atheist. |
Dr.Phool |
Mar-31-07 05:39 PM |
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I'm a dyslexic theist... |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 05:50 PM |
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The Santa Clause is a corollary of Pascal's Wager. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-31-07 05:52 PM |
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No. eom |
varkam |
Mar-31-07 05:28 PM |
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Maybe it's proof that 30% of the given population is an error ratio? ;) N/T |
ends_dont_justify |
Mar-31-07 05:50 PM |
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I'd like to think so, but given the 30 percenters... |
Kutjara |
Mar-31-07 05:59 PM |
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Fundamentalist Athiests |
DCKit |
Mar-31-07 05:00 PM |
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"Fundamentalist atheists?" |
Warpy |
Mar-31-07 05:20 PM |
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It doesn't actually mean anything. |
varkam |
Mar-31-07 05:29 PM |
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Apparently so |
Warpy |
Mar-31-07 06:57 PM |
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Of course there's a holy writ and tradition to atheism |
melody |
Mar-31-07 05:43 PM |
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Sorry |
Warpy |
Mar-31-07 06:56 PM |
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No, what's silly is you're applying my statement to you when it doesn't apply |
melody |
Apr-01-07 02:23 AM |
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Your statement was in reply to my post |
Warpy |
Apr-01-07 11:24 AM |
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Very typical of a fundamentalist thinker |
melody |
Apr-01-07 02:57 PM |
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I hope you're joking |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-31-07 07:53 PM |
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self delete |
Robbien |
Mar-31-07 05:02 PM |
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well, considering that 27% of Atheists/Agnostics... |
progdonkey |
Mar-31-07 05:08 PM |
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Sounds like 27% of respondents were too embarrassed to admit |
hlthe2b |
Mar-31-07 05:16 PM |
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My thoughts exactly.... |
ClintonTyree |
Mar-31-07 06:55 PM |
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Agnostics think there is something out there at the start of the universe. Could |
applegrove |
Mar-31-07 05:12 PM |
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The belief that some intelligence started the whole shebang... |
Kutjara |
Mar-31-07 05:20 PM |
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I lumped them together b/c Newsweek lumped them together. Newsweek did so because... |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 05:20 PM |
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Yup. Weird little poll. |
applegrove |
Mar-31-07 05:29 PM |
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Ayup |
charlie |
Mar-31-07 05:37 PM |
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That's probably it |
bananas |
Mar-31-07 07:14 PM |
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Agnostics think there is no proof |
Zensea |
Mar-31-07 06:02 PM |
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Thanks for going into detail. I was being vague to make a point. I've never |
applegrove |
Mar-31-07 06:11 PM |
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Agnosticism is the expression of a lack of knowledge.. |
Jonathan50 |
Mar-31-07 06:12 PM |
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"Can I assume that there's some error in the polling methodology?" |
Wiley50 |
Mar-31-07 05:17 PM |
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What difference does anyone's opinion of God or evolution |
theoldman |
Mar-31-07 05:19 PM |
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The difference is in what they know versus a personal hunch |
melody |
Mar-31-07 05:27 PM |
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Evolution is a natural process that is incredibly well supported by empircal evidence |
varkam |
Mar-31-07 05:33 PM |
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Yeh, but you have to admit that they're shitty at marketing compared to Creationists |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 05:56 PM |
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I don't think it's a problem with marketing at all |
varkam |
Mar-31-07 08:39 PM |
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You can't ignore inconvenient facts and then criticize fundies for doing the same. |
Bucky |
Apr-01-07 03:03 PM |
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Why is it then |
varkam |
Apr-02-07 09:47 AM |
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Got to blame the agnostics here. |
rug |
Mar-31-07 05:32 PM |
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In fact, you should be blaming the Clenis |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 05:57 PM |
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too true |
ComerPerro |
Apr-01-07 12:12 AM |
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Those probably were agnostics - people who think there is |
Clark2008 |
Mar-31-07 05:44 PM |
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I wonder how many bible-thumping fundamentalists don't believe in god? |
baldguy |
Mar-31-07 05:48 PM |
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Peer Pressure turning the religious to agnostic/atheist - interesting :-) |
papau |
Mar-31-07 05:48 PM |
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Doubt it |
charlie |
Mar-31-07 06:09 PM |
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Maybe people who aren't religious, but aren't true Agnostics, |
Eric J in MN |
Mar-31-07 06:04 PM |
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I think the margin of error in this nation |
symbolman |
Mar-31-07 06:06 PM |
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ATHEISTS believe God guided evolution? |
jmowreader |
Mar-31-07 06:06 PM |
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I'm guessing the latter |
WindRavenX |
Mar-31-07 06:10 PM |
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They probably just muddled the categories. But still, it invites a closer look at their work |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 06:30 PM |
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how can something or someone you don't believe guide anything? |
chimpsrsmarter |
Mar-31-07 06:15 PM |
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You mean outside of the Republican party, right? |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 06:31 PM |
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Apparently the Newsweek pollsters are idiots. n/t |
Swamp Rat |
Mar-31-07 06:16 PM |
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The question is more than 12 words long. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-31-07 06:47 PM |
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That statement was written at a post-grad level? |
WindRavenX |
Mar-31-07 06:53 PM |
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I just report what the numbers are. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-01-07 10:02 AM |
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I barely graduated from high school and I had no problem understanding the question.. |
Jonathan50 |
Mar-31-07 07:01 PM |
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Yeh, but you read printed words. They heard those words over the phone just once. |
Bucky |
Mar-31-07 07:18 PM |
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Good point... |
Jonathan50 |
Mar-31-07 09:55 PM |
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also, respondents were probably cold-called |
Bill McBlueState |
Apr-01-07 09:08 PM |
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According to the poll |
edhopper |
Mar-31-07 07:07 PM |
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That may be because the other categories are too small to subdivide meaningfully |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-03-07 08:52 AM |
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More proof that these polls are dumb. |
SmokingJacket |
Mar-31-07 07:17 PM |
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Is Princeton Survey Research Associates in any way affiliated |
Phredicles |
Mar-31-07 07:30 PM |
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Since Atheists/Agnostics were only 10% of those polled ... |
TahitiNut |
Mar-31-07 07:46 PM |
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I assume the self-described Agnostics are responsible for the |
Marr |
Mar-31-07 07:55 PM |
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Religious zealots screwing with the poll, Sorry, but atheists, agnostics aren't that stupid. n/t |
ToeBot |
Mar-31-07 09:49 PM |
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Ditto your advice n/t |
Synnical |
Mar-31-07 09:56 PM |
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They must all have Bush for a last name... |
paparush |
Mar-31-07 10:05 PM |
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Although it's a controversial topic in Atheism |
cgrindley |
Mar-31-07 11:26 PM |
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Interesting.. |
Jonathan50 |
Apr-01-07 08:32 AM |
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It merits a chapter in Dawkins' latest book |
cgrindley |
Apr-01-07 05:39 PM |
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My Gods! That's why I don't believe in polls (any more than God) |
The Count |
Mar-31-07 11:42 PM |
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how did they classify non-Christians who were not agnostic or atheist? |
ComerPerro |
Apr-01-07 12:13 AM |
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It looks like they oversampled members of the Atheists for Jesus organization |
Telly Savalas |
Apr-01-07 10:11 AM |
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Even an atheist is required to go on faith at some point |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Apr-01-07 10:18 AM |
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er, uh, no. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-01-07 07:38 PM |
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there are tons of scientists working on these problems |
Bill McBlueState |
Apr-01-07 09:12 PM |
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The polling population was flawed unless they were also trying to target those who are believers but |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-01-07 10:19 AM |
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That's got to be the dumbest statement I've ever seen |
shrike |
Apr-01-07 10:22 AM |
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Shorter headline: Americans are batshitfucking stupid. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 03:05 PM |
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Looks like the answer came from mixing Atheists and Agnostics |
Nikki Stone1 |
Apr-01-07 03:12 PM |
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I could believe that many agnostics hold that as a possibility... |
MN Against Bush |
Apr-01-07 06:01 PM |
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I'm so confused! |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-01-07 07:47 PM |
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agnostics and athiests are entirely different. Agnostics have no/little faith. Atheists do |
w4rma |
Apr-01-07 09:19 PM |
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"Guided evolution" = Intelligent Design |
Lars39 |
Apr-01-07 09:21 PM |
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