Are_grits_groceries
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Mon Apr-20-09 02:43 PM
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| 47. He interviewed an FBI psychologist |
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who was in charge of the domestic terroroism unit for the area. The FBI man's son went to Columbine, and he got tied into the investigation.The GMan reviewed thousands of pages and watched videos. A lot of the videos and writings were by Erivc and Dylan. He headed up a meeting on school shootings months later. Many leading psychologists attended. He presented his findings about Eric with some trepidation. He thought the psycopath label would lead to disputes among the group. It didn't. They agreed with his assessment.
You can call the writer a hack, but names won't change the caliber of work he has done. This wasn't a book done in one week to please the insatiable hunger the public has for info when things like this happen. He didn't issue a diagnosis. He listened to people who had been trained to. He began his story at the attack because he was a reporter there. He also believed a lot of what got sifted around and through. Cullen was as surprised as anyone after he talked to hundreds of people and looked at hundreds of pages. He used multiple sources where he could.
I may believe too much, but I looked at his history, his methodology and his sources. I think he is a lot closer to the truth 10 years later than people were at the time. There is more info of the overall picture that is available. In addition, he had the time to talk to a lot of people and examine the ideas that had been floating around.
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Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 09:13 AM |
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Their parents failed. Your kids are amassing an arsenal of weapons |
LeftinOH |
Apr-20-09 09:16 AM |
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blame the kids |
pnutbutr |
Apr-20-09 09:23 AM |
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There's plenty of blame to go around, from parents to law enforcement |
Heidi |
Apr-20-09 09:32 AM |
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This is one of the myths that is debunked in the book-- |
kiva |
Apr-20-09 09:56 AM |
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I realize that opinion exists, and I also realize that it's documented that Harris and |
Heidi |
Apr-20-09 10:29 AM |
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Your last sentence... |
kiva |
Apr-20-09 10:36 AM |
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A lot of people failed. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 09:27 AM |
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IIRC, Eric and Dylan each had an older brother who today |
DinahMoeHum |
Apr-20-09 09:40 AM |
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Typical in even horrendously abusive families... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-20-09 09:52 AM |
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Interesting point, although I severely doubt that was the case here |
DinahMoeHum |
Apr-20-09 10:01 AM |
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There is RARELY.... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-20-09 10:06 AM |
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Some would argue that it's negligent at the very least to have unsecured weapons |
Heidi |
Apr-20-09 10:34 AM |
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You're calling who naive?? |
DinahMoeHum |
Apr-20-09 11:25 AM |
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So siblings are cookie cutter images of each other |
HelenWheels |
Apr-20-09 09:54 AM |
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I am a "military brat". You're right it is a shitty life for a kid in many ways |
MindPilot |
Apr-20-09 03:33 PM |
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The author manipulated the definition of bullying to fit his hypotheses |
Nipper1959 |
Apr-20-09 09:25 AM |
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Sorry, but they weren't bullied like that. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 09:32 AM |
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his agenda is relieving the guilt many should feel about bullying others |
Nipper1959 |
Apr-20-09 09:36 AM |
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Believe what you will. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 09:40 AM |
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Yes, but this author is relying... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-20-09 09:59 AM |
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Believe what you want. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 10:10 AM |
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Then he didn't watch "Bowling for Columbine" |
goddess40 |
Apr-20-09 10:37 AM |
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Read: The Bully, the Bullied, and the Bystander |
goddess40 |
Apr-20-09 10:40 AM |
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Sociopaths and psychopaths are born that way. |
DevonRex |
Apr-20-09 09:42 AM |
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A neglected aspect of the 'bullying' argument is the actual, physical |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-20-09 10:38 AM |
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delete |
LanternWaste |
Apr-20-09 03:17 PM |
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I think there is a lot that we will never know.. |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-20-09 09:27 AM |
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What you saw about the bullying was one of the myths. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 09:34 AM |
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We're you there to see how they were bullied? |
Nipper1959 |
Apr-20-09 09:42 AM |
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Ok, I understand that you've read this book... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-20-09 09:44 AM |
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The parents aren't innocent. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 09:57 AM |
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Actually it sounded like Eric was doing the bullying |
stray cat |
Apr-20-09 09:55 AM |
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That's not unusual for a bully to try to create a bubble for themselves |
HelenWheels |
Apr-20-09 10:05 AM |
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Perhaps this book isn't really the end-all truth. |
YOY |
Apr-20-09 10:02 AM |
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They felt the need to change classes by walking outside |
Nipper1959 |
Apr-20-09 09:45 AM |
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Reports? |
stray cat |
Apr-20-09 09:56 AM |
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But they do care about themselves. That is how they learn to function |
DevonRex |
Apr-20-09 09:45 AM |
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Definition of bullying |
HelenWheels |
Apr-20-09 09:47 AM |
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IIRC, isn't this the same author who discovered that the "Christian" targeting meme was false? |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-20-09 09:50 AM |
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yes |
stray cat |
Apr-20-09 09:56 AM |
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Yes. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 10:02 AM |
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could you explain this to me, I've never heard about it |
HelenWheels |
Apr-20-09 10:03 AM |
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From Kiva's article posted just below: |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-20-09 10:17 AM |
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Yes, the myths had something for everyone. |
kiva |
Apr-20-09 10:09 AM |
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Thanks for the link. |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-20-09 10:21 AM |
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That sounds a lot like the initial report |
underpants |
Apr-20-09 10:10 AM |
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Author was NOT there since the beginning as he claims |
goddess40 |
Apr-20-09 10:57 AM |
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Too quick to believe |
HelenWheels |
Apr-20-09 02:14 PM |
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He interviewed an FBI psychologist |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 02:43 PM |
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And what does the FBI know about bullying and it's effects |
HelenWheels |
Apr-20-09 03:13 PM |
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Whatever. nt |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 03:17 PM |
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If the shoe fits... |
Raskolnik |
Apr-20-09 03:56 PM |
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Hard to believe it's been 10 years already.. |
TRUEBELIEVER 66 |
Apr-20-09 02:47 PM |
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yes. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-20-09 03:16 PM |
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