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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:23 AM
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2. blame the kids
The parents may have played a part but ultimately we must lay blame on the kids themselves. They were idiots who acted out a brutal fantasy.
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  -Columbine Are_grits_groceries  Apr-20-09 09:13 AM   #0 
  - Their parents failed. Your kids are amassing an arsenal of weapons  LeftinOH   Apr-20-09 09:16 AM   #1 
  - blame the kids  pnutbutr   Apr-20-09 09:23 AM   #2 
  - There's plenty of blame to go around, from parents to law enforcement  Heidi   Apr-20-09 09:32 AM   #6 
     - This is one of the myths that is debunked in the book--  kiva   Apr-20-09 09:56 AM   #24 
        - I realize that opinion exists, and I also realize that it's documented that Harris and  Heidi   Apr-20-09 10:29 AM   #38 
           - Your last sentence...  kiva   Apr-20-09 10:36 AM   #40 
  - A lot of people failed.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 09:27 AM   #4 
     - IIRC, Eric and Dylan each had an older brother who today  DinahMoeHum   Apr-20-09 09:40 AM   #11 
        - Typical in even horrendously abusive families...  CoffeeCat   Apr-20-09 09:52 AM   #19 
        - Interesting point, although I severely doubt that was the case here  DinahMoeHum   Apr-20-09 10:01 AM   #27 
           - There is RARELY....  CoffeeCat   Apr-20-09 10:06 AM   #32 
              - Some would argue that it's negligent at the very least to have unsecured weapons  Heidi   Apr-20-09 10:34 AM   #39 
              - You're calling who naive??  DinahMoeHum   Apr-20-09 11:25 AM   #45 
        - So siblings are cookie cutter images of each other  HelenWheels   Apr-20-09 09:54 AM   #20 
        - I am a "military brat". You're right it is a shitty life for a kid in many ways  MindPilot   Apr-20-09 03:33 PM   #53 
  - The author manipulated the definition of bullying to fit his hypotheses  Nipper1959   Apr-20-09 09:25 AM   #3 
  - Sorry, but they weren't bullied like that.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 09:32 AM   #7 
  - his agenda is relieving the guilt many should feel about bullying others  Nipper1959   Apr-20-09 09:36 AM   #9 
     - Believe what you will.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 09:40 AM   #10 
        - Yes, but this author is relying...  CoffeeCat   Apr-20-09 09:59 AM   #26 
        - Believe what you want.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 10:10 AM   #34 
        - Then he didn't watch "Bowling for Columbine"  goddess40   Apr-20-09 10:37 AM   #41 
           - Read: The Bully, the Bullied, and the Bystander  goddess40   Apr-20-09 10:40 AM   #43 
  - Sociopaths and psychopaths are born that way.  DevonRex   Apr-20-09 09:42 AM   #12 
  - A neglected aspect of the 'bullying' argument is the actual, physical  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-20-09 10:38 AM   #42 
  - delete  LanternWaste   Apr-20-09 03:17 PM   #51 
  - I think there is a lot that we will never know..  CoffeeCat   Apr-20-09 09:27 AM   #5 
  - What you saw about the bullying was one of the myths.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 09:34 AM   #8 
  - We're you there to see how they were bullied?  Nipper1959   Apr-20-09 09:42 AM   #13 
  - Ok, I understand that you've read this book...  CoffeeCat   Apr-20-09 09:44 AM   #14 
  - The parents aren't innocent.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 09:57 AM   #25 
  - Actually it sounded like Eric was doing the bullying  stray cat   Apr-20-09 09:55 AM   #21 
  - That's not unusual for a bully to try to create a bubble for themselves  HelenWheels   Apr-20-09 10:05 AM   #31 
  - Perhaps this book isn't really the end-all truth.  YOY   Apr-20-09 10:02 AM   #28 
  - They felt the need to change classes by walking outside  Nipper1959   Apr-20-09 09:45 AM   #15 
  - Reports?  stray cat   Apr-20-09 09:56 AM   #22 
  - But they do care about themselves. That is how they learn to function  DevonRex   Apr-20-09 09:45 AM   #16 
  - Definition of bullying  HelenWheels   Apr-20-09 09:47 AM   #17 
  - IIRC, isn't this the same author who discovered that the "Christian" targeting meme was false?  riderinthestorm   Apr-20-09 09:50 AM   #18 
  - yes  stray cat   Apr-20-09 09:56 AM   #23 
  - Yes.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 10:02 AM   #29 
  - could you explain this to me, I've never heard about it  HelenWheels   Apr-20-09 10:03 AM   #30 
  - From Kiva's article posted just below:  riderinthestorm   Apr-20-09 10:17 AM   #36 
  - Yes, the myths had something for everyone.  kiva   Apr-20-09 10:09 AM   #33 
     - Thanks for the link.  riderinthestorm   Apr-20-09 10:21 AM   #37 
  - That sounds a lot like the initial report  underpants   Apr-20-09 10:10 AM   #35 
  - Author was NOT there since the beginning as he claims  goddess40   Apr-20-09 10:57 AM   #44 
  - Too quick to believe  HelenWheels   Apr-20-09 02:14 PM   #46 
  - He interviewed an FBI psychologist  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 02:43 PM   #47 
  - And what does the FBI know about bullying and it's effects  HelenWheels   Apr-20-09 03:13 PM   #49 
     - Whatever. nt  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 03:17 PM   #52 
  - If the shoe fits...  Raskolnik   Apr-20-09 03:56 PM   #54 
  - Hard to believe it's been 10 years already..  TRUEBELIEVER 66   Apr-20-09 02:47 PM   #48 
     - yes.  Are_grits_groceries   Apr-20-09 03:16 PM   #50 

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