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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:25 PM
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13. Politicians who know nothing about teaching enacting laws telling
teachers how to do their jobs.

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  -What is the biggest problem in public education? ColbertWatcher  Apr-18-09 09:59 PM   #0 
  - Administrators  XemaSab   Apr-18-09 10:02 PM   #1 
  - That was my exact thought when I saw the subject line of the OP.  cherokeeprogressive   Apr-19-09 01:44 AM   #37 
  - Stupid administrators  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-19-09 10:20 AM   #67 
  - 3 decades of Reaganism  omega minimo   Apr-18-09 10:04 PM   #2 
  - The way subjects are fractured from Jr High on  LearnedHand   Apr-18-09 10:05 PM   #3 
  - I'll add to that and say teachers who are trained in one subject alone  XemaSab   Apr-19-09 04:12 AM   #44 
  - Consolidation?  DefenseLawyer   Apr-18-09 10:06 PM   #4 
  - well...  polysciguy420   Apr-18-09 10:07 PM   #5 
  - So public education is just a farm team for colleges?  Goblinmonger   Apr-19-09 09:56 PM   #90 
  - Bad lunches not enough math run-on sentences.  dem629   Apr-18-09 10:07 PM   #6 
  - B-b-but, twitter just started! How can U blame it!? n/t  ColbertWatcher   Apr-18-09 10:11 PM   #9 
     - OMG, like...Tweet! Kthxbye and FTS.  dem629   Apr-18-09 10:13 PM   #10 
  - Other: The fact that Americans basically despise learning..  Fumesucker   Apr-18-09 10:07 PM   #7 
  - it's hard to get past that cultural mindset no matter the resources. nt  Muttocracy   Apr-18-09 10:59 PM   #22 
  - Yep.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-18-09 11:48 PM   #27 
  - You can't blame it on culture.  anonymous171   Apr-18-09 11:53 PM   #28 
  - Schools have kids for 180 days/year, 8 hrs/day..  Fumesucker   Apr-19-09 12:51 AM   #34 
  - I disagree  Johonny   Apr-19-09 01:53 AM   #38 
  - My brother's wife is an RN and far from stupid..  Fumesucker   Apr-19-09 02:42 AM   #42 
  - Hmm.  ColbertWatcher   Apr-19-09 05:04 AM   #49 
  - "Americans they seem to "know" a lot ...'  dysfunctional press   Apr-19-09 07:39 AM   #59 
  - You beat me to it  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-19-09 09:39 PM   #88 
  - Combination: teachers, parents, government. (In no particular order.)  BlooInBloo   Apr-18-09 10:07 PM   #8 
  - Agreed ....but, I'd throw in  etherealtruth   Apr-19-09 11:52 AM   #78 
  - Uninvolved/bad parents. n/t  Political Tiger   Apr-18-09 10:13 PM   #11 
  - Everything starts in the home, then systems/administrators, teachers, low/lax standards, sports  patrice   Apr-18-09 10:14 PM   #12 
  - Politicians who know nothing about teaching enacting laws telling  Catshrink   Apr-18-09 10:25 PM   #13 
  - Bingo!  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-19-09 10:22 AM   #69 
  - Low pay for teachers. nt  all.of.me   Apr-18-09 10:27 PM   #14 
  - good  polysciguy420   Apr-18-09 10:37 PM   #15 
  - and raising our children......  all.of.me   Apr-18-09 10:43 PM   #16 
  - You're insane if you think the pay is too low!  jamesbolton   Apr-18-09 11:47 PM   #25 
  - You're insane if you think the pay is too high.  Stellabella   Apr-19-09 12:04 AM   #30 
  - Welcome to DU!  ColbertWatcher   Apr-19-09 05:46 AM   #52 
  - Either your wife isn't doing her job right,  MadHound   Apr-19-09 07:22 AM   #55 
  - Did you even read my post?  jamesbolton   Apr-19-09 08:53 PM   #86 
     - So upon further consideration, you're going with the bullshit option, OK, gotcha  MadHound   Apr-20-09 06:43 AM   #94 
        - You're just completely clueless  jamesbolton   Apr-20-09 11:11 PM   #96 
  - When teachers are eligible for food stamps, the pay is too high?!? nt  all.of.me   Apr-19-09 10:18 AM   #65 
  - "Teachers shouldn't make twice what experienced engineers do."  ulysses   Apr-19-09 10:25 AM   #71 
  - Did you run this by your wife before posting?  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-19-09 10:26 AM   #72 
  - "happy teachers are so overpaid"  Fireweed247   Apr-19-09 12:54 PM   #80 
  - .  LWolf   Apr-19-09 02:53 PM   #85 
  - +1 n/t  adamuu   Apr-19-09 07:30 AM   #56 
  - Teacher's pay is equitable to other similarly educated professionals  etherealtruth   Apr-19-09 01:13 PM   #82 
     - That "study" is very misleading  lutefisk   Apr-20-09 01:06 AM   #93 
        - Really  etherealtruth   Apr-20-09 05:55 PM   #95 
  - Proposition 13  AndyTiedye   Apr-18-09 10:43 PM   #17 
  - Other: School Board politics and administrative bloat  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Apr-18-09 10:49 PM   #18 
  - That's a good one. Would you mind expanding on it a bit? n/t  ColbertWatcher   Apr-18-09 10:55 PM   #20 
  - Well, in general I think that school systems are top heavy.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Apr-19-09 11:46 AM   #77 
  - Second that.  tosh   Apr-19-09 02:05 AM   #39 
  - I think it depends on the district.  nonconformist   Apr-18-09 10:51 PM   #19 
  - "parents that don't care" Could it be that they're also working several jobs?  ColbertWatcher   Apr-18-09 10:58 PM   #21 
     - Perhaps  Telly Savalas   Apr-19-09 08:00 AM   #63 
  - All the vested interests up and down the line  notesdev   Apr-18-09 11:44 PM   #23 
  - Not enough discipline and structure. nt  anonymous171   Apr-18-09 11:45 PM   #24 
  - Other: grooming children for their future as cogs in the corporate machine  RadicalTexan   Apr-18-09 11:48 PM   #26 
  - The person who selected 'bad teachers' should be thoroughly ashamed.  Stellabella   Apr-19-09 12:03 AM   #29 
  - That just means we still have freepers hiding amongst us. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Apr-19-09 04:55 AM   #48 
     - Yep. Sigh.  Stellabella   Apr-19-09 09:53 AM   #64 
  - Subjects are taught in a vacuum.  RC   Apr-19-09 12:09 AM   #31 
  - Bureaucracy and paperwork.  Smarmie Doofus   Apr-19-09 12:12 AM   #32 
  - Other-  asdjrocky   Apr-19-09 12:14 AM   #33 
  - forcing public schools to be prisons waiting room  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Apr-19-09 12:57 AM   #35 
  - Lack of a prescribed curriculum  SPedigrees   Apr-19-09 01:41 AM   #36 
  - Have you heard of the dictionary of Cultural Literacy?  ColbertWatcher   Apr-19-09 02:34 PM   #84 
  - I'll throw out this idea  Johonny   Apr-19-09 02:17 AM   #40 
  - Graduating with a crushing debt burden is part of it  XemaSab   Apr-19-09 04:36 AM   #45 
  - I think you've touched on something very important here.  ColbertWatcher   Apr-19-09 04:54 AM   #47 
  - $200/semester, back in a day when the wages being doled out could afford the costs!  Deja Q   Apr-19-09 05:43 AM   #51 
  - ?  ColbertWatcher   Apr-19-09 04:46 AM   #46 
     - I mean the cultural values shifted as the relative value of  Johonny   Apr-19-09 11:22 AM   #76 
  - The burdens of the parent/child relationship  The2ndWheel   Apr-19-09 02:35 AM   #41 
  - I'd start with "no child left behind"  buzzycrumbhunger   Apr-19-09 03:03 AM   #43 
  - The testing is ruining education.  roody   Apr-19-09 10:33 AM   #74 
  - If profits are the prime motivation, then we have lost our way as a culture.  Deja Q   Apr-19-09 05:41 AM   #50 
  - teaching to standardized tests...  w8liftinglady   Apr-19-09 05:56 AM   #53 
  - Parents  NashVegas   Apr-19-09 06:01 AM   #54 
  - parent involvement  ebbie15644   Apr-19-09 07:33 AM   #57 
  - 1.parents. 2.parents. 3.parents. 4.parents...  dysfunctional press   Apr-19-09 07:36 AM   #58 
  - Ever occur to anyone that US students might be the problem with US schools?  Mr. Hyde   Apr-19-09 07:41 AM   #60 
  - i think the basic problem is the way school is thought of. it's not an investment  ejpoeta   Apr-19-09 07:48 AM   #61 
  - Seems to me the quesiton has 2 problems  ThomWV   Apr-19-09 07:50 AM   #62 
  - Parents that don't care.  scrinmaster   Apr-19-09 10:20 AM   #66 
  - Local funding through property taxes.  rucky   Apr-19-09 10:21 AM   #68 
  - FCAT ...it jukes the system.  L0oniX   Apr-19-09 10:24 AM   #70 
  - Funding  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-19-09 10:33 AM   #73 
  - Proven methods of the past  Enthusiast   Apr-19-09 11:13 AM   #75 
  - TV  Fireweed247   Apr-19-09 12:35 PM   #79 
  - this is all by design  Fireweed247   Apr-19-09 01:00 PM   #81 
  - Other:  LWolf   Apr-19-09 01:58 PM   #83 
  - We strive towards mediocrity  Coffee and Cake   Apr-19-09 09:08 PM   #87 
  - It starts with intent and/or methods  TheKentuckian   Apr-19-09 09:53 PM   #89 
  - thinking Learning should be fun or rewarded in a material way  JI7   Apr-19-09 10:02 PM   #91 
  - Catering to the lowest common denominator...  Jack_DeLeon   Apr-20-09 12:14 AM   #92 
 

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