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Sat Mar-31-07 08:33 AM
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| 30. This is one thing that drives me bonkers. |
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I hate, hate, HATE the lies spewn by sports owners and the rabid fans about how the stadiums are a civic joy and how much money they make for everyone. Anyone who thinks so should read "Field of Schemes," or go to the Field of Schemes website. It's all a ploy to separate people from their tax money. The only way a city should finance a sports stadium is if the stadium owners give every damned penny back in a reasonable time frame, say 5 years. Otherwise, they can stick it.
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| -Taxpayers last to benefit from stadiums |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 01:03 AM |
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No shit! ... Recommended |
Bozita |
Mar-31-07 01:07 AM |
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In the winter, when the trees are bare, I can stand on the playground at my school |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 01:18 AM |
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Amen! ... Amen! ... Amen! |
Bozita |
Mar-31-07 01:29 AM |
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Let the pro players buy the damn stadium if they want it so badly |
silverojo |
Mar-31-07 02:53 AM |
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The Chiefs want a roof? Our Twin Cities Metrodome HAS a roof, but |
CLW |
Apr-01-07 12:48 AM |
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"22 men in desperate need of rest, and 50,000 people in desperate need of exercise" |
Ron_Green |
Mar-31-07 01:07 AM |
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Ain't this the truth. |
riverdeep |
Apr-01-07 01:03 PM |
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I heard that the rental car system is often jacked up w/fees in order to pay for stadiums |
EVDebs |
Mar-31-07 01:12 AM |
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I believe that is how they are paying for our new arena here |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 01:20 AM |
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That's $14,200 per seat. How long, how many events to pay it off? |
Bozita |
Mar-31-07 01:58 AM |
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Yes this one is replacing another one that is just fine |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 08:40 AM |
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University Of Alabama recently did a $100 million upgrade... |
Syrinx |
Mar-31-07 01:13 AM |
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Pro sports teams are better extortionists |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 01:21 AM |
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And college sports are more fun anyway |
Syrinx |
Mar-31-07 01:28 AM |
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We have both pro and college sports here |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 09:09 AM |
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Well, college football is really minor-league football, and college basketball minor-league Bball. |
kath |
Mar-31-07 11:45 PM |
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You said it your self "big-bucks" |
RL3AO |
Mar-31-07 11:58 PM |
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In Alabama, those thoughts would elicit horror**nm |
misanthrope |
Apr-01-07 12:51 AM |
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why don't you try to constructively change the political climate in Alabama? |
Syrinx |
Apr-01-07 02:30 AM |
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Where's your sense of humor?... |
misanthrope |
Apr-01-07 04:53 PM |
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sounds a bit like the Ann Coulter sense of humor |
Syrinx |
Apr-02-07 01:58 AM |
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Gimme a break... |
misanthrope |
Apr-02-07 03:03 AM |
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I don't know you either, but you have a lot of hate |
Syrinx |
Apr-02-07 03:51 AM |
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speaking (unofficially) for the University Of Alabama |
Syrinx |
Apr-01-07 02:25 AM |
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I'm still paying for the Kingdome in Seattle and |
Suich |
Mar-31-07 01:28 AM |
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at least we got some cool video |
Syrinx |
Mar-31-07 01:30 AM |
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speaking of which, video here: |
ComerPerro |
Mar-31-07 01:51 AM |
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excellent! |
Syrinx |
Mar-31-07 02:03 AM |
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But civic pride makes up for that |
Oeditpus Rex |
Mar-31-07 01:48 AM |
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Sounds like Junior's scam with the Texas Rangers |
Lasher |
Mar-31-07 02:51 AM |
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Not only that, but Bush's name allowed the group to steal a bunch |
Nay |
Mar-31-07 05:37 AM |
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for more info on the Rangers' deal ... |
cosmicdot |
Mar-31-07 10:25 PM |
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Thanks for the good scoop |
Lasher |
Apr-01-07 03:28 AM |
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The terrible and tragic background for these astounding events, |
EST |
Mar-31-07 03:36 AM |
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And since you all in St Louis got state funding to pay for your stadiums, |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 08:43 AM |
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You betcha! |
EST |
Mar-31-07 03:03 PM |
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Well duh, the mark isn't SUPPOSED to profit |
youngdem |
Mar-31-07 07:16 AM |
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BEST response yet! |
annabanana |
Mar-31-07 07:57 AM |
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MIke Lupica wrote a book about this |
wilt the stilt |
Mar-31-07 07:46 AM |
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Replacement for Yankee Stadium in the Bronx was sold to New Yorkers |
no_hypocrisy |
Mar-31-07 07:54 AM |
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It's time for the Sports cartels to pay their own way.. |
annabanana |
Mar-31-07 07:56 AM |
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Time for the art cartels to pay their own way too |
Rage for Order |
Mar-31-07 11:50 AM |
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I've always gotten a kick... |
sendero |
Mar-31-07 08:03 AM |
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There should be a "team has to win" clause |
Bill McBlueState |
Mar-31-07 08:07 AM |
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And do what the Minnesota Twins did... |
HypnoToad |
Mar-31-07 08:10 AM |
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But The Chiefs haven't won a Super Bowl in 37 years!! |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 08:48 AM |
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that's what's so odd about the Chiefs |
Bill McBlueState |
Mar-31-07 11:08 AM |
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The sky is also blue unless there is a thunderstorm, in which case the sky is dark gray. |
HypnoToad |
Mar-31-07 08:08 AM |
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welfare for the poor is bad; welfare for the rich is GOOD |
alarimer |
Mar-31-07 10:02 AM |
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In Pittsburgh, they Built TWO stadiums: One for the Pirates, One for the Steelers.... |
Junkdrawer |
Mar-31-07 08:10 AM |
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LOL That is Kansas City's fault you know |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 08:52 AM |
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And if you recall, there was a ballot referendum about |
PA Democrat |
Mar-31-07 09:08 AM |
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This is one thing that drives me bonkers. |
JackDragna |
Mar-31-07 08:33 AM |
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The Chiefs meet their budget with TV revenues alone!! |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 09:01 AM |
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Thanks for the link, looks informative. |
eppur_se_muova |
Mar-31-07 06:08 PM |
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No big surprise to me, but if it's in Business Week, it may open some official civic eyes. |
blondeatlast |
Mar-31-07 09:00 AM |
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What big businesses are you referring to? |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 09:04 AM |
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I'm not sure, but there were no teams behind the Sprint Center. |
Telly Savalas |
Mar-31-07 09:41 AM |
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Sprint is losing money big time |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 10:20 AM |
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Whatever corporation named the AZ Cardinals stadium this week, Chase Bank, US Airways for starters. |
blondeatlast |
Mar-31-07 10:07 AM |
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But how do they profit from having their name on a stadium? |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 10:21 AM |
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How could they not? Advertising, PR, oodles of cushy box seats, etc. |
blondeatlast |
Mar-31-07 10:29 AM |
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So will we see an end here to the massive Sprint layoffs |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 10:42 AM |
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Nashville TN gave about 300 million for Titans & stadium. |
spanone |
Mar-31-07 09:13 AM |
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I don't think the taxpayers who paid for Arrowhead in KC EVER get to use it |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 10:22 AM |
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Its garbage, here in KC, Jackson County gets to fund stadiums that only JoCo can afford to go to. |
newportdadde |
Mar-31-07 09:28 AM |
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I am one of those 'yuppies' in Johnson County and I detest this argument |
proud2Blib |
Mar-31-07 10:28 AM |
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Could use a few hundred million in Ohio to improve water pollution control |
TheBorealAvenger |
Mar-31-07 12:16 PM |
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That Is Ever So True ... |
USA_1 |
Mar-31-07 11:01 PM |
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Whats this world class hockey arena in Minneapolis? |
RL3AO |
Mar-31-07 11:27 PM |
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You talking about the Met? IIRC, that place was demolished when they built the Mall of America. |
JonathanChance |
Apr-01-07 02:42 AM |
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Try the Target Center ... |
USA_1 |
Apr-01-07 12:43 PM |
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Better than MSG? Yeah right. |
RL3AO |
Apr-01-07 02:16 PM |
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Google: Curtis-Mathes Bush |
SoCalDem |
Mar-31-07 11:24 PM |
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Bull pucky |
cgrindley |
Mar-31-07 11:35 PM |
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I agree. Cant wait for the new Twins stadium. |
RL3AO |
Mar-31-07 11:37 PM |
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It's a shame |
cgrindley |
Mar-31-07 11:42 PM |
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BTW...I hate the Yankees. |
RL3AO |
Mar-31-07 11:56 PM |
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Is there anything better than baseball? |
cgrindley |
Apr-01-07 12:09 AM |
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In Minnesota, hockey is up there. But I still prefer baseball. |
RL3AO |
Apr-01-07 12:11 AM |
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I was a lifelong Canucks fan |
cgrindley |
Apr-01-07 12:16 AM |
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Canucks fan? Now I really hate you. |
RL3AO |
Apr-01-07 12:21 AM |
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Last? I didn't realize we were even in line at all! Fuck the Sonics - let em leave - greedy bastards |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-01-07 01:12 PM |
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This is really a question of what |
riverdeep |
Apr-01-07 01:28 PM |
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It has so much popularity because... |
RL3AO |
Apr-01-07 02:21 PM |
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Sidebar to this topic but it's interesting... |
libnnc |
Apr-01-07 02:28 PM |
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