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Sun Apr-12-09 03:54 PM
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| 26. "Pored through" has passed into usage. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 03:56 PM by Fridays Child
Language is fluid. See post #13 and Google "pored through."
And the author did not suggest that the pirates who attacked the Maersk Alabama were environmental crusaders. The article was about a broader view of pirates, which, while acknowledging that some are "gangsters," suggests that the motives of others could be misunderstood.
You may not feel lied to because, like many DUers, you're not content to pick only the low-hanging fruit from the news tree. But for those who can't, or choose not to, stretch their arms, the proverbial devil remains in the details. Most of the mainstream media regularly perpetrate lies of omission, when they present information devoid of meaningful context--particularly when they're aware of how that information will feed the fires of prevailing assumptions. The practice is a hallmark of propagandism.
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| -You are being lied to about pirates |
Phred42 |
Apr-12-09 11:09 AM |
#0 |
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"pores through the evidence" |
Gman |
Apr-12-09 11:13 AM |
#1 |
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"...pores through the evidence?" |
Fridays Child |
Apr-12-09 11:38 AM |
#8 |
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You pore over something, not through it. |
anigbrowl |
Apr-12-09 02:48 PM |
#24 |
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"Pored through" has passed into usage. |
Fridays Child |
Apr-12-09 03:54 PM |
#26 |
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that's "pour through" and "pore over" in my book |
wordpix |
Apr-12-09 09:10 PM |
#61 |
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Uh, okay. |
Fridays Child |
Apr-12-09 11:21 PM |
#71 |
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I'll just pour myself another drink and read the rest of the rable. n/t |
GiveMeFreedom |
Apr-13-09 03:45 AM |
#96 |
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Pick it up again: |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-12-09 12:06 PM |
#13 |
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Thanks! I stand a bit more literate than I was a few moments ago! |
Gman |
Apr-12-09 02:43 PM |
#23 |
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Poring over “Pore” and “Pour” |
Ticonderoga |
Apr-13-09 08:45 AM |
#121 |
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The real problem is he confused Bluebeard and Blackbeard |
starroute |
Apr-12-09 12:30 PM |
#14 |
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So pressing sailors of captured vessels into service is democracy? |
Mike Daniels |
Apr-14-09 09:35 AM |
#163 |
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Cicero and Cincinatus set the pattern |
AngryAmish |
Apr-14-09 09:48 AM |
#165 |
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K&R |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Apr-12-09 11:14 AM |
#2 |
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Yes, pirates are clearly just eco-crusaders. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-12-09 11:18 AM |
#3 |
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Neither does it deserve the attention being focused on it by the media. |
arcadian |
Apr-12-09 11:35 AM |
#6 |
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You know, this HAS gotten attention in the media in the rest of the world. |
MADem |
Apr-12-09 11:39 AM |
#9 |
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I've known about it for a while, too, and I live here... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-13-09 01:02 AM |
#74 |
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Here, I've got just what you need |
anigbrowl |
Apr-12-09 02:50 PM |
#25 |
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Clearly the RW MSM wanted to blame |
Enthusiast |
Apr-13-09 04:10 AM |
#97 |
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What would you do? |
NoSheep |
Apr-13-09 02:11 AM |
#91 |
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Well, killing people that have never done a thing to me wouldn't be an option |
HEyHEY |
Apr-13-09 08:28 AM |
#113 |
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Illegal dumping and fishing...... |
Uben |
Apr-12-09 11:26 AM |
#4 |
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So they're dumping highly toxic material into the waters- and then overfishing there? |
depakid |
Apr-12-09 06:09 PM |
#43 |
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the Seattle underground was infamous for imprisoning men and |
notadmblnd |
Apr-12-09 11:35 AM |
#5 |
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Yes, I recall learning that about Seattle. |
pengillian101 |
Apr-12-09 10:10 PM |
#66 |
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You are not being lied to about pirates. |
MADem |
Apr-12-09 11:35 AM |
#7 |
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when it's not all white or all black there comes a great discomfort. i feel your pain. |
nashville_brook |
Apr-12-09 11:55 AM |
#10 |
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I'm not "in pain" at all. The one who is in pain is that lying bastard occupying a chair at the UN. |
MADem |
Apr-12-09 12:06 PM |
#12 |
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Thanks for not defending the subhuman scum. |
doctor jazz |
Apr-12-09 12:50 PM |
#15 |
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"subhuman scum" |
Two Americas |
Apr-12-09 06:09 PM |
#44 |
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Yeah, these guys are choirboys.... |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 03:39 AM |
#95 |
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who is defending them? |
Two Americas |
Apr-14-09 04:54 PM |
#173 |
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democrats are supposed to like murdering pirates now? |
dionysus |
Apr-13-09 08:54 AM |
#125 |
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that is the supposed choice? |
Two Americas |
Apr-14-09 04:50 PM |
#172 |
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This guy is new. Go figure. He one that likes to lash out like a child. |
Arctic Dave |
Apr-13-09 09:56 AM |
#136 |
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Yes Democrats |
get the red out |
Apr-13-09 01:05 PM |
#150 |
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right |
Two Americas |
Apr-14-09 04:31 PM |
#171 |
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I flinched every time the prisoners were called scum in The Dark Knight |
MedleyMisty |
Apr-13-09 05:36 PM |
#157 |
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very well said |
NoSheep |
Apr-14-09 08:24 PM |
#177 |
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The idiot who wrote this article needs to research piracy more. |
Mike Daniels |
Apr-12-09 08:48 PM |
#52 |
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+1 nt. |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 03:32 AM |
#94 |
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I agree with you. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-12-09 11:58 AM |
#11 |
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It is my understanding |
KT2000 |
Apr-12-09 08:54 PM |
#56 |
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Not entirely true. They do have UN representation, and they do have |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 08:50 PM |
#158 |
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Is it possible we have a limited capacity to imagine what they have experienced |
NoSheep |
Apr-13-09 02:04 AM |
#86 |
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They were hijacking an AID ship--that was bringing aid to SOMALIS. |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 04:23 AM |
#98 |
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Ignorant Americas don't seem to want our "stinking education" either. |
NoSheep |
Apr-14-09 11:03 AM |
#167 |
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Sorry there Sheepish, the "justice department" ain't the decider on "international law." |
MADem |
Apr-14-09 11:55 AM |
#168 |
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At no point have I presented anything to make you think I am taking up for the pirates. |
NoSheep |
Apr-14-09 03:30 PM |
#170 |
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Too bad people are so focused on the Somalian pirates |
varelse |
Apr-12-09 12:57 PM |
#16 |
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Agreed the root cause of the problem needs to be fixed |
MadMaddie |
Apr-12-09 01:08 PM |
#17 |
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Absolutely! |
FloridaJudy |
Apr-13-09 07:45 AM |
#108 |
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Two wrongs don't make a right. |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-12-09 01:13 PM |
#18 |
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So, the Boston Tea Party was wrong |
nichomachus |
Apr-12-09 01:27 PM |
#20 |
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so taking people who may not have any direct connection to the dumping hostage is right? |
FLAprogressive |
Apr-12-09 01:34 PM |
#21 |
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Desperate people don't make the distinction |
rollingrock |
Apr-12-09 07:46 PM |
#48 |
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The ship they captured was 300 miles outside of their territory |
Mike Daniels |
Apr-12-09 08:50 PM |
#53 |
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Most of the population is on international food aid |
rollingrock |
Apr-12-09 09:29 PM |
#62 |
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The warlords were trying to hijack a ship carrying AID...for SOMALIS. nt |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 04:25 AM |
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How would the pirates know that? |
rollingrock |
Apr-13-09 04:48 AM |
#101 |
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Maybe they've got a buddy in Kenya who works in port ops. |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 04:54 AM |
#104 |
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Oh the French sailboat was toxic dumping |
auburnblu |
Apr-13-09 02:05 AM |
#87 |
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Fact free response... |
ddeclue |
Apr-12-09 05:17 PM |
#34 |
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You forgot the American "pirates" against the Crown. |
Arctic Dave |
Apr-13-09 10:02 AM |
#140 |
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STRAWMAN ALERT!!! |
kegler14 |
Apr-13-09 11:20 AM |
#146 |
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That's true, but three do |
slackmaster |
Apr-13-09 09:52 AM |
#133 |
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The pirates are using Bushian logic to justify their crimes. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-12-09 01:13 PM |
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The British Royal Navy is going to fight piracy? When will we see their ships on |
retread |
Apr-12-09 02:40 PM |
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2 wrongs don't make a right. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-12-09 04:56 PM |
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anybody who attacks american interests |
paulsby |
Apr-12-09 05:00 PM |
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It's part of a demented mindset that sees everyting Western as evil. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-12-09 05:08 PM |
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True and I'm one of em. |
Fire1 |
Apr-12-09 05:14 PM |
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happiness |
paulsby |
Apr-12-09 05:16 PM |
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How prosaic. |
Fire1 |
Apr-12-09 05:35 PM |
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my iambic pentameter is broken, or i would have made it prettier |
paulsby |
Apr-12-09 05:43 PM |
#38 |
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iow, 'dull' |
Fire1 |
Apr-12-09 05:54 PM |
#39 |
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I always like Ghandi's comments: |
Lucky Luciano |
Apr-12-09 09:46 PM |
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I recall that comment and it is and has been most |
Fire1 |
Apr-12-09 10:13 PM |
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BY YOU - THEY ARE ALL GANGSTERS DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY. |
ddeclue |
Apr-12-09 05:10 PM |
#30 |
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what on earth is the matter with people here? |
Two Americas |
Apr-12-09 05:59 PM |
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What is the matter with people like you who think I have to agree with your BS disinfo just because |
ddeclue |
Apr-12-09 06:01 PM |
#41 |
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so angry |
Two Americas |
Apr-12-09 06:11 PM |
#45 |
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"orgy of hatred and bloodlust " - wow, |
Tejas |
Apr-12-09 08:55 PM |
#57 |
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not on this thread |
Two Americas |
Apr-12-09 09:49 PM |
#64 |
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You seem to be arguing these pirates are really misguided environmentalists or something |
ButterflyBlood |
Apr-13-09 01:09 AM |
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all or nothing |
Two Americas |
Apr-13-09 02:16 AM |
#92 |
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lol you are undoubtedly one of the most rigidly black/white |
cali |
Apr-13-09 08:23 AM |
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or in somali shipping lanes? |
HEyHEY |
Apr-13-09 08:29 AM |
#114 |
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I think most people... |
LanternWaste |
Apr-14-09 05:28 PM |
#174 |
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Aye mateties. DU pirates agrees! They's be good pirates and they's be bad pirates! |
Kip Humphrey |
Apr-12-09 05:14 PM |
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Ssh. Don't interfere with the national socialst wing's imperialism celebration party. |
Smith_3 |
Apr-12-09 05:19 PM |
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I knew it was the pirates. Even when it was the terrorists. |
leeroysphitz |
Apr-12-09 05:24 PM |
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disgusting, truly disgusting |
Two Americas |
Apr-12-09 06:08 PM |
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you're right.. |
veganlush |
Apr-12-09 07:35 PM |
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Yeah, it stuns me that they are not even able to understand the concept |
Lisa0825 |
Apr-12-09 07:55 PM |
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thank you... |
veganlush |
Apr-12-09 08:17 PM |
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no shit. |
NoSheep |
Apr-13-09 02:09 AM |
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Desperate people do desperate things. While I don't condone the |
tnlefty |
Apr-12-09 08:10 PM |
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+1.. |
amyrose2712 |
Apr-12-09 09:04 PM |
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Yup. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-13-09 12:44 AM |
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Bravo! |
leftstreet |
Apr-13-09 01:08 AM |
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MSM is protecting big business because oil is involved. |
Life Long Dem |
Apr-12-09 07:18 PM |
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Yes, matey....yes |
TK421 |
Apr-12-09 08:52 PM |
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WHO is buying the ARRRGGGRHHHH crap? I'm calling B.S. n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-12-09 08:54 PM |
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see post 54 |
TK421 |
Apr-12-09 08:57 PM |
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You seriously believe there is anything redeeming about these pirates? |
muryan |
Apr-12-09 09:08 PM |
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Oh but if it is another culture |
get the red out |
Apr-13-09 05:41 AM |
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"others are trying to stop illegal dumping and trawling" |
WilliamPitt |
Apr-12-09 09:52 PM |
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BULL CRAP on the dumping and trawling as a reason for piracy...they never once demanded |
opihimoimoi |
Apr-12-09 10:15 PM |
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um.....opi? |
Skittles |
Apr-12-09 10:21 PM |
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I didn say they were MALE Balls....LOL :o) |
opihimoimoi |
Apr-12-09 10:31 PM |
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no one claimed that |
Two Americas |
Apr-13-09 01:15 AM |
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Their government is looking the other way as the illegal dumping goes on. |
Dover |
Apr-13-09 01:26 AM |
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How would we know what they demanded? Who would pay any attention? |
NoSheep |
Apr-13-09 02:07 AM |
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They've got a big fat high living rep at the UN--read the OP. NT |
MADem |
Apr-13-09 04:34 AM |
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Thucydides approved of pirates |
bird gerhl |
Apr-13-09 12:58 AM |
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Some older DU links on this and more info: |
Dover |
Apr-13-09 01:04 AM |
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And if all these activities ended tommorow, I'm sure the pirates would cease too |
ButterflyBlood |
Apr-13-09 01:05 AM |
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Pirates could attack foreign supply ships whereas nations couldn't. |
bjobotts |
Apr-13-09 01:38 AM |
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Somalia and the US are only countries that refuse to sign the protect Childrens rights act at UN |
bjobotts |
Apr-13-09 01:39 AM |
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A failed state having no navy to stop foreign fishermen from stealing all the fish in their waters |
bjobotts |
Apr-13-09 01:40 AM |
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No way to stop polluters dumping hazardous waste into their waters |
bjobotts |
Apr-13-09 01:41 AM |
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A starving and sick failed state where opiracy became their only revenue and defense |
bjobotts |
Apr-13-09 01:42 AM |
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a person who gets it |
NoSheep |
Apr-13-09 02:08 AM |
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Neither of you twits "get it", I'm afraid |
Tarc |
Apr-13-09 08:42 AM |
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This twit did not say it was a solution. |
NoSheep |
Apr-14-09 08:36 PM |
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.... |
Norrin Radd |
Apr-13-09 02:53 AM |
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I'm not buying it |
WeDidIt |
Apr-13-09 04:48 AM |
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I can't believe you! |
get the red out |
Apr-13-09 05:44 AM |
#106 |
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I'm beginning to see what those people say about |
WeDidIt |
Apr-13-09 08:53 AM |
#124 |
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Yeah, me too. At least now I know it's not just Obama whom they hate. |
DevonRex |
Apr-13-09 09:46 AM |
#130 |
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Moles maybe |
get the red out |
Apr-13-09 01:00 PM |
#149 |
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At least they didn't lie to me about Blackbeard. He DID have a black beard. |
Kablooie |
Apr-13-09 04:54 AM |
#103 |
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K&R |
blindpig |
Apr-13-09 07:20 AM |
#107 |
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Idiotic rubbish that stains the front page of the DU |
Tarc |
Apr-13-09 08:14 AM |
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They're just people trying to survive |
baldguy |
Apr-13-09 08:23 AM |
#110 |
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Are you being intentionally stupid, or just fundamentally naive? |
Tarc |
Apr-13-09 08:41 AM |
#119 |
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So, enlighten me. What would you do in their situation? |
baldguy |
Apr-13-09 09:09 AM |
#127 |
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Did you ever take any college couses in the basics of debate, or elements of logic? |
Tarc |
Apr-13-09 01:32 PM |
#152 |
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I note you didn't answer the question. |
baldguy |
Apr-13-09 01:44 PM |
#154 |
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I note that your question is an invalid red herring |
Tarc |
Apr-14-09 08:25 AM |
#159 |
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Like the problems in Somalia don't exist. |
baldguy |
Apr-14-09 08:59 AM |
#160 |
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The *PLONKED* Troll says what? |
Tarc |
Apr-14-09 09:10 AM |
#161 |
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And you didn't answer the question. |
baldguy |
Apr-14-09 09:30 AM |
#162 |
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To me, that post crosses the line from stupid to something else entirely. |
DevonRex |
Apr-13-09 09:52 AM |
#132 |
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Same question: What would you do? |
baldguy |
Apr-13-09 11:16 AM |
#145 |
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That is a disgusting thing to say. Goodbye. |
DevonRex |
Apr-13-09 10:07 AM |
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SEEK THERAPY! |
get the red out |
Apr-13-09 01:06 PM |
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This place is becoming crazy town |
Stuckinthebush |
Apr-13-09 08:32 AM |
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I agree. That article stains The Independent, and DU |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-13-09 09:37 AM |
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It's still on the front page. And it's horrifically embarrassing to all of us. |
DevonRex |
Apr-13-09 09:51 AM |
#131 |
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Totally agree. Well said - n/t |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-13-09 09:58 AM |
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It's DU. I think there's a hidden clause contractually obligating posters to spend 15% |
DS1 |
Apr-13-09 09:57 AM |
#137 |
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Yep. |
redqueen |
Apr-13-09 10:04 AM |
#141 |
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The Stupid still runs strong in the UK |
slackmaster |
Apr-13-09 08:24 AM |
#112 |
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And now we have DUers defending pirates, so teh stupid is running strong here too. |
DevonRex |
Apr-13-09 10:05 AM |
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New's Flash ..... Pirates are NOT Green ! |
SlingBlade |
Apr-13-09 08:31 AM |
#115 |
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what a completely inane post. nt |
Javaman |
Apr-13-09 08:35 AM |
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The article offers no actual proof besides hearsay from the pirates. |
HEyHEY |
Apr-13-09 08:35 AM |
#118 |
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The Warlords collecting the ransom are environmentalist helping the Somalia people |
stray cat |
Apr-13-09 08:47 AM |
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Idiocy. Green murderers and kidnappers. |
styersc |
Apr-13-09 08:53 AM |
#123 |
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what a total load of CRAP. people are actually buying this tripe...? |
dysfunctional press |
Apr-13-09 08:56 AM |
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NO, WE ARE NOT! This is a poor excuse for a thread |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-13-09 09:30 AM |
#128 |
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You missed the point completely |
kpominville |
Apr-13-09 10:29 AM |
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BBC: Somali pirates living the high life |
swishyfeet |
Apr-13-09 09:52 AM |
#134 |
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Brave freedom fighters indeed |
slackmaster |
Apr-13-09 09:53 AM |
#135 |
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Poor, misunderstood pirates. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-13-09 09:58 AM |
#138 |
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I thank you for |
Duval |
Apr-13-09 11:42 AM |
#147 |
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Yes, it's here too. |
kiva |
Apr-13-09 12:24 PM |
#148 |
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This is how democrats get labled as "PANSYS".. |
RoadRage |
Apr-13-09 01:32 PM |
#153 |
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I think it is time |
get the red out |
Apr-13-09 02:59 PM |
#155 |
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Sign me up for that group please! ;) |
RoadRage |
Apr-13-09 04:07 PM |
#156 |
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The Sheehan/McKinney wing of the party needs to be booted |
Tarc |
Apr-14-09 09:38 AM |
#164 |
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The ones doing damage to this country are the DLCers, the corporatists and the other DINOs. |
baldguy |
Apr-14-09 02:12 PM |
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Yarrr. |
Blue-Jay |
Apr-14-09 09:53 AM |
#166 |
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agree: pirates are opposing fisheries' extinction by over-fishing G-7 nations |
amborin |
Apr-14-09 07:41 PM |
#175 |
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A brief history of Somalia |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Apr-14-09 07:46 PM |
#176 |
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I can only assume the blood thirsty here are not interested in history. Cause and effect is a false |
NoSheep |
Apr-14-09 08:42 PM |
#180 |
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I have no sympathy for anyone who targets innocents. eom |
WestSeattle2 |
Apr-14-09 08:31 PM |
#178 |
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Then you are a moron |
ASUliberal |
Apr-14-09 08:45 PM |
#181 |
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Your infantile insults and weak analogy-making skills aren't swaying anyone, sport |
Tarc |
Apr-14-09 09:25 PM |
#182 |
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No see here is the thing... |
ASUliberal |
Apr-14-09 09:32 PM |
#183 |
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/yawn |
Tarc |
Apr-14-09 10:37 PM |
#185 |
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Oh how quickly |
ASUliberal |
Apr-14-09 10:41 PM |
#187 |
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More research won't make you less of a spineless coward |
Tarc |
Apr-15-09 10:42 AM |
#189 |
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Thank you for posting that article, Phred. |
NorthernSpy |
Apr-14-09 10:19 PM |
#184 |
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Another sniveling coward? |
Tarc |
Apr-14-09 10:38 PM |
#186 |
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No, indeedy... I want to shoot MORE people! |
NorthernSpy |
Apr-14-09 10:42 PM |
#188 |
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'Toxic waste' behind Somali piracy |
Prometheus Bound |
Apr-15-09 05:41 PM |
#190 |